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Re: TCs will never be a minority in Cyprus

Postby DT. » Sat Mar 14, 2009 10:28 pm

insan wrote:
DT. wrote:
insan wrote:
Oracle wrote:
insan wrote: ... More lies to come.


Insan ... can we please concern ourselves with removing the enemy occupying Cyprus ... i.e. Turkey, because it is not a very nice country at all!


The enemy occupying 2/3 of my country and converted RoC into a Hellenic state is Greece. Greece has the biggest responsibility of current situation besides the last 36 years.


You telling porkies again?

I'm a little busy writing about your glorious turkish army right now in an other thread where GC land in no man's land that was ploughed and prepared for harvest was suddenly taken by force by the Turkish army and TC farmers harvested the GC's fruits of labour instead.

It was all over the news today, It'll be in the papers tomorrow.

Your delusional moral highground is freakin quicksand insan.


Stop propaganda galimatias and face with the realities that u r trying to ignore.


That the Greeks didn't allow for a Skopjan political party to place a sign outside the party's offices that said Macednoia in Skopjan?

I couldn't give a flying one but I'll still make sure you're telling the truth...(remember the early post with 20+ made up judgements you posted.)

WHats important here is what do we do with Turkey who is currently occupying our land.
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Re: TCs will never be a minority in Cyprus

Postby insan » Sat Mar 14, 2009 10:32 pm

DT. wrote:
insan wrote:
DT. wrote:
insan wrote:
Oracle wrote:
insan wrote: ... More lies to come.


Insan ... can we please concern ourselves with removing the enemy occupying Cyprus ... i.e. Turkey, because it is not a very nice country at all!


The enemy occupying 2/3 of my country and converted RoC into a Hellenic state is Greece. Greece has the biggest responsibility of current situation besides the last 36 years.


You telling porkies again?

I'm a little busy writing about your glorious turkish army right now in an other thread where GC land in no man's land that was ploughed and prepared for harvest was suddenly taken by force by the Turkish army and TC farmers harvested the GC's fruits of labour instead.

It was all over the news today, It'll be in the papers tomorrow.

Your delusional moral highground is freakin quicksand insan.


Stop propaganda galimatias and face with the realities that u r trying to ignore.


That the Greeks didn't allow for a Skopjan political party to place a sign outside the party's offices that said Macednoia in Skopjan?

I couldn't give a flying one but I'll still make sure you're telling the truth...(remember the early post with 20+ made up judgements you posted.)

WHats important here is what do we do with Turkey who is currently occupying our land.


Since 1963 untill recently Greece together with GC collaborators have been occupying 2/3 of my country and converted RoC into a Hellenic state for their own national interests.
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Re: TCs will never be a minority in Cyprus

Postby DT. » Sat Mar 14, 2009 10:37 pm

insan wrote:
DT. wrote:
insan wrote:
DT. wrote:
insan wrote:
Oracle wrote:
insan wrote: ... More lies to come.


Insan ... can we please concern ourselves with removing the enemy occupying Cyprus ... i.e. Turkey, because it is not a very nice country at all!


The enemy occupying 2/3 of my country and converted RoC into a Hellenic state is Greece. Greece has the biggest responsibility of current situation besides the last 36 years.


You telling porkies again?

I'm a little busy writing about your glorious turkish army right now in an other thread where GC land in no man's land that was ploughed and prepared for harvest was suddenly taken by force by the Turkish army and TC farmers harvested the GC's fruits of labour instead.

It was all over the news today, It'll be in the papers tomorrow.

Your delusional moral highground is freakin quicksand insan.


Stop propaganda galimatias and face with the realities that u r trying to ignore.


That the Greeks didn't allow for a Skopjan political party to place a sign outside the party's offices that said Macednoia in Skopjan?

I couldn't give a flying one but I'll still make sure you're telling the truth...(remember the early post with 20+ made up judgements you posted.)

WHats important here is what do we do with Turkey who is currently occupying our land.


Since 1963 untill recently Greece together with GC collaborators have been occupying 2/3 of my country and converted RoC into a Hellenic state for their own national interests.


there's a level where people start talking gibberish that I realise you're finished and full out of arguments.

Turkey is comitting a crime to this day. Be a man and face it, don't support it.
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Re: TCs will never be a minority in Cyprus

Postby insan » Sat Mar 14, 2009 10:47 pm

DT. wrote:
insan wrote:
DT. wrote:
insan wrote:
DT. wrote:
insan wrote:
Oracle wrote:
insan wrote: ... More lies to come.


Insan ... can we please concern ourselves with removing the enemy occupying Cyprus ... i.e. Turkey, because it is not a very nice country at all!


The enemy occupying 2/3 of my country and converted RoC into a Hellenic state is Greece. Greece has the biggest responsibility of current situation besides the last 36 years.


You telling porkies again?

I'm a little busy writing about your glorious turkish army right now in an other thread where GC land in no man's land that was ploughed and prepared for harvest was suddenly taken by force by the Turkish army and TC farmers harvested the GC's fruits of labour instead.

It was all over the news today, It'll be in the papers tomorrow.

Your delusional moral highground is freakin quicksand insan.


Stop propaganda galimatias and face with the realities that u r trying to ignore.


That the Greeks didn't allow for a Skopjan political party to place a sign outside the party's offices that said Macednoia in Skopjan?

I couldn't give a flying one but I'll still make sure you're telling the truth...(remember the early post with 20+ made up judgements you posted.)

WHats important here is what do we do with Turkey who is currently occupying our land.


Since 1963 untill recently Greece together with GC collaborators have been occupying 2/3 of my country and converted RoC into a Hellenic state for their own national interests.


there's a level where people start talking gibberish that I realise you're finished and full out of arguments.

Turkey is comitting a crime to this day. Be a man and face it, don't support it.


You are not even aware of what's happened in the past 36 years in Cyprus, Greece and Turkey. You have zero knowledge how some states in Western Alliance including US exerted to keep Greece stable and how Greece abused her status in Western Alliance to occupy 2/3 of my country then convert it to a GC state. This is a crystal clear reality can easily be seen and analyzed in every, even "sanitized" CIA report.

The abuses of Greece can't last forever. The mission has almost completed in Balkans. It's our turn now. Justice will prevail; Greece and all others who caused 36 years of TC losses will pay the price.
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Re: TCs will never be a minority in Cyprus

Postby Sotos » Sat Mar 14, 2009 10:53 pm

DT. wrote:
insan wrote:
DT. wrote:
insan wrote:MHRMI Condemns Attack on Minority Activist in Greece During Live Broadcast

March 2, 2009



Toronto, Canada - MHRMI joins the South East Europe Media Organization (SEEMO) appeal denouncing the attack on Turkish minority rights activist, Abdulhalim Dede, during a live television broadcast on February 19, 2009.

Greece vigorously denies the existence of any ethnic minorities on its territory and attempts to suppress any voices that advocate human rights. Simply raising the issue of minority rights, and specifically the Macedonian minority, in Greece causes Greek citizens and politicians alike to react in outrage.

Greece's state-sponsored racism includes Greek politicians publicly calling for the death of Macedonian minority party EFA-Rainbow members, the Greek army entering an ethnic Macedonian village and arresting several inhabitants, and possible treason charges against Greek Helsinki Monitor spokesperson Panayote Dimitras for advocating minority rights.
MHRMI calls on the international community, and specifically the European Union, to finally hold Greece accountable for its persecution of its ethnic minorities and force Greece to abide by all European Court of Human Rights judgements against it.

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Had TCs accepted to be a minority in Cyprus; what happens in Greece would have happened in Cyprus , too.


and force Greece to abide by all European Court of Human Rights judgements against it


Do you know which European Court of Human rights judgements Greece has not abided by?


1. To allow the free choice of national identity in accordance with international principles.

2. To officially recognize the existence of a Macedonian minority in Greece and cease its perennial policy of non-recognition of the many ethnic minorities in Greece.

3. To improve the availability of human rights to Macedonians in Greece, in particular the right to use the Macedonian language; the right to have the Macedonian language taught at all levels of the school system; the right to freedom of religion including the establishment of Macedonian churches; and the right to have Macedonian language radio, television, newspapers, and other cultural media.

4. To allow Macedonians to use their proper Macedonian names and to cease the mandatory use of Greek versions.

5. To allow Macedonian representatives at all levels of public life, including elected office.

6. To end the persecution of Macedonian human rights campaigners in Greece, including the internationally known cases of Hristos Sideropoulos, Tasos Bulis, and Archimandrite Nikodemos Tsarknias. We request the Australian government to monitor the appeal of Hristos Sideropoulos and Tasos Bulis, the April 1994 trial of Archimandrite Nikodemos Tsarknias, other current cases, and new cases as they arise.

7. To cease State discrimination whereby Macedonians and Macedonian activists have been dismissed from employment.

8. To implement United Nations Resolution 193C (III) of November 27, 1948 which calls for the free repatriation of all child refugees from the Greek Civil War of 1946-49.

9. To repeal the Greek laws 106841 and 1540 which discriminate against Macedonians who fled from Greece during the Greek Civil War and are still unable to repatriate to Greece or to reclaim their property.

10. To return Greek citizenship and its attendant rights to all Macedonians whose Greek citizenship has been revoked.

11. To allow the 550 child refugees resident in Australia to return to Greece, to reclaim their Greek citizenship if desired, and to reclaim their ancestral property.

12. To legislate for the nationalistic elements in the Greek media to cease their persecution of the Macedonian minority and to require these media to give Macedonians a right of reply.

13. For Greece to comply with all international human rights agreements to which it is a signatory, particularly the International Convention on Economic, Social and Cultural Rights.

14. For Greece to ratify the International Covenant on Civil and Political, the Optional Protocol on Civil and Political Rights, and the International Convention on the Suppression and Punishment of the Crime of Apartheid.



Insan CUT THE F****** CRAP AND STOP LIEING.

This is the list of demands the Aegean Macedonian Association of Australia wrote to the Australian parliament about for a vote.

http://www.pollitecon.com/html/life/The ... ralia.html


I'll ask again...Do you know which European Court of Human rights judgements Greece has not abided by?

AND STOP LIEING....YOU'VE BEEN FOUND OUT COUTLESS TIMES.


The only thing insan posts is lies and anti-Greek propaganda made by Turks and a few other enemies of our nation. There is no UN resolution or anything else to support his propaganda.
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Postby halil » Sat Mar 14, 2009 10:57 pm

YA...YA ŞA ŞA .... MAMMA GREECE .....ÇOOOOKKKK YAŞŞŞAAA !!!!

no word for the Mamma Insan ...... She is always perfect mother....

but your mamma is ............. :!: :!: :!: :!:
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Postby DT. » Sat Mar 14, 2009 10:58 pm

halil wrote:YA...YA ŞA ŞA .... MAMMA GREECE .....ÇOOOOKKKK YAŞŞŞAAA !!!!

no word for the Mamma Insan ...... She is always perfect mother....

but your mamma is ............. :!: :!: :!: :!:


Cyprus is my mamma Halil.

Not sure about yours.
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Re: TCs will never be a minority in Cyprus

Postby insan » Sat Mar 14, 2009 10:59 pm

Sotos wrote:
DT. wrote:
insan wrote:
DT. wrote:
insan wrote:MHRMI Condemns Attack on Minority Activist in Greece During Live Broadcast

March 2, 2009



Toronto, Canada - MHRMI joins the South East Europe Media Organization (SEEMO) appeal denouncing the attack on Turkish minority rights activist, Abdulhalim Dede, during a live television broadcast on February 19, 2009.

Greece vigorously denies the existence of any ethnic minorities on its territory and attempts to suppress any voices that advocate human rights. Simply raising the issue of minority rights, and specifically the Macedonian minority, in Greece causes Greek citizens and politicians alike to react in outrage.

Greece's state-sponsored racism includes Greek politicians publicly calling for the death of Macedonian minority party EFA-Rainbow members, the Greek army entering an ethnic Macedonian village and arresting several inhabitants, and possible treason charges against Greek Helsinki Monitor spokesperson Panayote Dimitras for advocating minority rights.
MHRMI calls on the international community, and specifically the European Union, to finally hold Greece accountable for its persecution of its ethnic minorities and force Greece to abide by all European Court of Human Rights judgements against it.

-----------------------------0000000000000000000----------------------------

Had TCs accepted to be a minority in Cyprus; what happens in Greece would have happened in Cyprus , too.


and force Greece to abide by all European Court of Human Rights judgements against it


Do you know which European Court of Human rights judgements Greece has not abided by?


1. To allow the free choice of national identity in accordance with international principles.

2. To officially recognize the existence of a Macedonian minority in Greece and cease its perennial policy of non-recognition of the many ethnic minorities in Greece.

3. To improve the availability of human rights to Macedonians in Greece, in particular the right to use the Macedonian language; the right to have the Macedonian language taught at all levels of the school system; the right to freedom of religion including the establishment of Macedonian churches; and the right to have Macedonian language radio, television, newspapers, and other cultural media.

4. To allow Macedonians to use their proper Macedonian names and to cease the mandatory use of Greek versions.

5. To allow Macedonian representatives at all levels of public life, including elected office.

6. To end the persecution of Macedonian human rights campaigners in Greece, including the internationally known cases of Hristos Sideropoulos, Tasos Bulis, and Archimandrite Nikodemos Tsarknias. We request the Australian government to monitor the appeal of Hristos Sideropoulos and Tasos Bulis, the April 1994 trial of Archimandrite Nikodemos Tsarknias, other current cases, and new cases as they arise.

7. To cease State discrimination whereby Macedonians and Macedonian activists have been dismissed from employment.

8. To implement United Nations Resolution 193C (III) of November 27, 1948 which calls for the free repatriation of all child refugees from the Greek Civil War of 1946-49.

9. To repeal the Greek laws 106841 and 1540 which discriminate against Macedonians who fled from Greece during the Greek Civil War and are still unable to repatriate to Greece or to reclaim their property.

10. To return Greek citizenship and its attendant rights to all Macedonians whose Greek citizenship has been revoked.

11. To allow the 550 child refugees resident in Australia to return to Greece, to reclaim their Greek citizenship if desired, and to reclaim their ancestral property.

12. To legislate for the nationalistic elements in the Greek media to cease their persecution of the Macedonian minority and to require these media to give Macedonians a right of reply.

13. For Greece to comply with all international human rights agreements to which it is a signatory, particularly the International Convention on Economic, Social and Cultural Rights.

14. For Greece to ratify the International Covenant on Civil and Political, the Optional Protocol on Civil and Political Rights, and the International Convention on the Suppression and Punishment of the Crime of Apartheid.



Insan CUT THE F****** CRAP AND STOP LIEING.

This is the list of demands the Aegean Macedonian Association of Australia wrote to the Australian parliament about for a vote.

http://www.pollitecon.com/html/life/The ... ralia.html


I'll ask again...Do you know which European Court of Human rights judgements Greece has not abided by?

AND STOP LIEING....YOU'VE BEEN FOUND OUT COUTLESS TIMES.


The only thing insan posts is lies and anti-Greek propaganda made by Turks and a few other enemies of our nation. There is no UN resolution or anything else to support his propaganda.


Stop galimatias and go read a lttle bit, enlarging ur little world based on official lies and propaganda. As a starter, I recommend u to read at least the 400 pages of CIA report regarding Cyprus, 1973-76. Even though it was sanitized to have the sympathy of Hellenes, depending on ur intellectual capability; u can still learn lots of things regarding an important historical part of Cyprus. What all u have stated on these forums consist of official Hellenic propaganda.
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Postby Sotos » Sat Mar 14, 2009 11:03 pm

Insan said: "What all u have stated on these forums consist of official Hellenic propaganda." This is what I post:

RESOLUTION 353 (1974)

Adopted by the Security Council at its 1771st meeting,
on 20 July 1974



The Security Council,

Having considered the report of the Secretary-General, at its 1779th meeting, about the recent developments in Cyprus,

Having heard the statement of the President of the Republic of Cyprus and the statements of the representatives of Cyprus, Turkey, Greece and other Member States,

Noting also from the report the conditions prevailing in the island,

Deeply deploring the outbreak of violence and the continuing bloodshed,

Gravely concerned about the situation which has led to a serious threat to international peace and security, and which has created a most explosive situation in the whole Eastern Mediterranean area,

Equally concerned about the necessity to restore the constitutional structure of the Republic of Cyprus, established and guaranteed by international agreements,

Conscious of its primary responsibility for the maintenance of international peace and security in accordance with Article 24 of the Charter of the United Nations,

1.Calls upon all States to respect the sovereignty, independence and territorial integrity of Cyprus.

2.Calls upon all parties to the present fighting as a first step to cease all firing and requests all States to exercise the utmost restraint and to refrain from any action which might further aggravate the situation;

3.Demands an immediate end to foreign military intervention in the Republic of Cyprus that is in contravention of the provisions of paragraph 1 above;

4. Requests the withdrawal without delay from the Republic of Cyprus of foreign military personnel present otherwise than under the authority of international agreements, including those whose withdrawal was requested by the President of the Republic of Cyprus, Archbishop Makarios, in his letter of 2 July 1974;

5. Calls upon Greece, Turkey and the United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland to enter into negotiations without delay for the restoration of peace in the area and constitutional government of Cyprus and to keep the Secretary-General informed;

6. Calls upon all parties to co-operate fully with the United Nations Peace-keeping Force in Cyprus to enable it to carry out its mandate;

7. Decides to keep the situation under constant review and asks the Secretary-General to report as appropriate with a view to adopting further measures in order to ensure that peaceful conditions are restored as soon as possible.


RESOLUTION 541 (1983)

Adopted by the Security Council
on 18 November 1983



The Security Council,

Having heard the statement of the Foreign Minister of the Government of the Republic of Cyprus,

Concerned at the declaration by the Turkish Cypriot authorities issued on 15 November 1983 which purports to create an independent state in northern Cyprus,

Considering that this declaration is incompatible with the 1960 Treaty concerning the establishment of the Republic of Cyprus and the 1960 Treaty of Guarantee,

Considering therefore that the attempt to create a "Turkish Republic of Northern Cyprus", is invalid, and will contribute to a worsening of the situation in Cyprus,

Reaffirming its resolutions 365(1974) and 367(1975),

Aware of the need for a solution of the Cyprus problem, based on the mission of good offices undertaken by the Secretary-General,

Affirming its continuing support for the United Nations Peace-Keeping Force in Cyprus,

Taking note of the Secretary-General's statement of 17 November 1983,

1. Deplores the declaration of the Turkish Cypriot authorities of the purported secession of part of the Republic of Cyprus;

2. Considers the declaration referred to above as legally invalid and calls for its withdrawal;

3. Calls for the urgent and effective implementation of its resolutions 365(1974) and 367(1975);

4. Requests the Secretary-General to pursue his mission of good offices in order to achieve the earliest possible progress towards a just and lasting settlement in Cyprus;

5. Calls upon the parties to cooperate fully with the Secretary-General in his mission of good offices;

6. Calls upon all States to respect the sovereignty, independence, territorial integrity and non-alignment of the Republic of Cyprus;

7. Calls upon all States not to recognise any Cypriot state other than the Republic of Cyprus;

8. Calls upon all States and the two communities in Cyprus to refrain from any action which might exacerbate the situation;

9. Requests the Secretary-General to keep the Security Council fully informed.
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Postby Sotos » Sat Mar 14, 2009 11:05 pm

Insan. Answer this question: Is the pseudo state you declared on the land you stole from us legally valid?
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