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Postby insan » Sat Mar 14, 2009 9:52 pm

“Ouranio Toxo v. Greece” - application no. 74989/01 [thereafter “OT”]

http://cmiskp.echr.coe.int////tkp197/vi ... hment=true



GHM and MRG-G consider the judgments of great importance in view of the fact that Bulgaria and Greece do not recognize the presence of Macedonian minorities on their territory. The two countries moreover harass, persecute and prosecute Macedonian activists and organizations. Finally, Bulgaria and Greece also consider the Macedonians’ activities contrary to public order and national security, and often call them provocative or separatists. The importance of the three judgments stems also from the fact that the Court defined the extent to which provocative action and even separatist aims are acceptable in democracies. GHM and MRG-G finally consider the Court’s decision to publish the three judgments on the same day an important message to Bulgaria and Greece to finally conform themselves with the prevailing international democratic norms. The main points of the judgments are highlighted below.



There are also two previous cases on Macedonians in Bulgaria and Greece, referred to in the recent judgments, where Bulgaria and Greece had again been found to have violated the freedom of association and assembly of Macedonians:
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Postby insan » Sat Mar 14, 2009 9:53 pm

U can find some more here:

http://cm.greekhelsinki.gr/uploads/2005 ... nglish.doc

Do u need more? If yes, tell me. I have more.
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Postby DT. » Sat Mar 14, 2009 9:58 pm

insan wrote:“Ouranio Toxo v. Greece” - application no. 74989/01 [thereafter “OT”]

http://cmiskp.echr.coe.int////tkp197/vi ... hment=true



GHM and MRG-G consider the judgments of great importance in view of the fact that Bulgaria and Greece do not recognize the presence of Macedonian minorities on their territory. The two countries moreover harass, persecute and prosecute Macedonian activists and organizations. Finally, Bulgaria and Greece also consider the Macedonians’ activities contrary to public order and national security, and often call them provocative or separatists. The importance of the three judgments stems also from the fact that the Court defined the extent to which provocative action and even separatist aims are acceptable in democracies. GHM and MRG-G finally consider the Court’s decision to publish the three judgments on the same day an important message to Bulgaria and Greece to finally conform themselves with the prevailing international democratic norms. The main points of the judgments are highlighted below.



There are also two previous cases on Macedonians in Bulgaria and Greece, referred to in the recent judgments, where Bulgaria and Greece had again been found to have violated the freedom of association and assembly of Macedonians:


I clicked on the link and all I see in my limited french (cause the whole thing is in French is that whatever that document is, it is talking about the govt of Germany :roll:

For cryin out loud insan....post something thats true.
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Re: TCs will never be a minority in Cyprus

Postby Oracle » Sat Mar 14, 2009 9:59 pm

insan wrote: ... More lies to come.


Insan ... can we please concern ourselves with removing the enemy occupying Cyprus ... i.e. Turkey, because it is not a very nice country at all!
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Postby DT. » Sat Mar 14, 2009 10:04 pm

Ok I found the one case from the ECHR website....it took me a while but you can see it below. Its the one above the other cases against turkey on that day. :oops:

4797 20.10.2005 Ouranio Toxo et autres c. Grèce/and Others v. Greece, no/no. 74989/01 (Sect. 1),
CEDH/ECHR 2005-X (extraits/extracts)
4798 20.10.2005 Ataoğlu c. Turquie/v. Turkey, no/no. 77111/01 (Sect. 3) (fr)
4799 20.10.2005 Hayrettin Kartal c. Turquie/v. Turkey, no/no. 4520/02 (Sect. 3) (Eng)
4800 20.10.2005 Karagöz c. Turquie/v. Turkey, no/no. 5701/02 (Sect. 3) (Eng)
4801 20.10.2005 Mehmet Mübarek Küçük c. Turquie/v. Turkey, no/no. 7035/02 (Sect. 3) (fr)
4802 20.10.2005 Fatma Tunç c. Turquie/v. Turkey, no/no. 16608/02 (Sect. 3) (Eng)
4803 20.10.2005 Özata c. Turquie/v. Turkey, no/no. 19578/02 (Sect. 3) (Eng)

4806 20.10.2005 Uludağ c. Turquie/v. Turkey, no/no. 38861/03 (Sect. 3) (fr)
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Postby insan » Sat Mar 14, 2009 10:06 pm

DT. wrote:
insan wrote:“Ouranio Toxo v. Greece” - application no. 74989/01 [thereafter “OT”]

http://cmiskp.echr.coe.int////tkp197/vi ... hment=true



GHM and MRG-G consider the judgments of great importance in view of the fact that Bulgaria and Greece do not recognize the presence of Macedonian minorities on their territory. The two countries moreover harass, persecute and prosecute Macedonian activists and organizations. Finally, Bulgaria and Greece also consider the Macedonians’ activities contrary to public order and national security, and often call them provocative or separatists. The importance of the three judgments stems also from the fact that the Court defined the extent to which provocative action and even separatist aims are acceptable in democracies. GHM and MRG-G finally consider the Court’s decision to publish the three judgments on the same day an important message to Bulgaria and Greece to finally conform themselves with the prevailing international democratic norms. The main points of the judgments are highlighted below.



There are also two previous cases on Macedonians in Bulgaria and Greece, referred to in the recent judgments, where Bulgaria and Greece had again been found to have violated the freedom of association and assembly of Macedonians:


I clicked on the link and all I see in my limited french (cause the whole thing is in French is that whatever that document is, it is talking about the govt of Germany :roll:

For cryin out loud insan....post something thats true.


English version here:
http://cmiskp.echr.coe.int/tkp197/view. ... n=hudoc-en
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Re: TCs will never be a minority in Cyprus

Postby insan » Sat Mar 14, 2009 10:10 pm

Oracle wrote:
insan wrote: ... More lies to come.


Insan ... can we please concern ourselves with removing the enemy occupying Cyprus ... i.e. Turkey, because it is not a very nice country at all!


The enemy occupying 2/3 of my country and converted RoC into a Hellenic state is Greece. Greece has the biggest responsibility of current situation besides the last 36 years.
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Postby insan » Sat Mar 14, 2009 10:13 pm

DT. wrote:Ok I found the one case from the ECHR website....it took me a while but you can see it below. Its the one above the other cases against turkey on that day. :oops:

4797 20.10.2005 Ouranio Toxo et autres c. Grèce/and Others v. Greece, no/no. 74989/01 (Sect. 1),
CEDH/ECHR 2005-X (extraits/extracts)
4798 20.10.2005 Ataoğlu c. Turquie/v. Turkey, no/no. 77111/01 (Sect. 3) (fr)
4799 20.10.2005 Hayrettin Kartal c. Turquie/v. Turkey, no/no. 4520/02 (Sect. 3) (Eng)
4800 20.10.2005 Karagöz c. Turquie/v. Turkey, no/no. 5701/02 (Sect. 3) (Eng)
4801 20.10.2005 Mehmet Mübarek Küçük c. Turquie/v. Turkey, no/no. 7035/02 (Sect. 3) (fr)
4802 20.10.2005 Fatma Tunç c. Turquie/v. Turkey, no/no. 16608/02 (Sect. 3) (Eng)
4803 20.10.2005 Özata c. Turquie/v. Turkey, no/no. 19578/02 (Sect. 3) (Eng)

4806 20.10.2005 Uludağ c. Turquie/v. Turkey, no/no. 38861/03 (Sect. 3) (fr)


I have never denied human rights violations in Turkey. Here we r discussing human rights violations in Greece that is a so-called member of EU for 32 years.
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Re: TCs will never be a minority in Cyprus

Postby DT. » Sat Mar 14, 2009 10:14 pm

insan wrote:
Oracle wrote:
insan wrote: ... More lies to come.


Insan ... can we please concern ourselves with removing the enemy occupying Cyprus ... i.e. Turkey, because it is not a very nice country at all!


The enemy occupying 2/3 of my country and converted RoC into a Hellenic state is Greece. Greece has the biggest responsibility of current situation besides the last 36 years.


You telling porkies again?

I'm a little busy writing about your glorious turkish army right now in an other thread where GC land in no man's land that was ploughed and prepared for harvest was suddenly taken by force by the Turkish army and TC farmers harvested the GC's fruits of labour instead.

It was all over the news today, It'll be in the papers tomorrow.

Your delusional moral highground is freakin quicksand insan.
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Re: TCs will never be a minority in Cyprus

Postby insan » Sat Mar 14, 2009 10:24 pm

DT. wrote:
insan wrote:
Oracle wrote:
insan wrote: ... More lies to come.


Insan ... can we please concern ourselves with removing the enemy occupying Cyprus ... i.e. Turkey, because it is not a very nice country at all!


The enemy occupying 2/3 of my country and converted RoC into a Hellenic state is Greece. Greece has the biggest responsibility of current situation besides the last 36 years.


You telling porkies again?

I'm a little busy writing about your glorious turkish army right now in an other thread where GC land in no man's land that was ploughed and prepared for harvest was suddenly taken by force by the Turkish army and TC farmers harvested the GC's fruits of labour instead.

It was all over the news today, It'll be in the papers tomorrow.

Your delusional moral highground is freakin quicksand insan.


Stop propaganda galimatias and face with the realities that u r trying to ignore.
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