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Murdered British soldier was Turkish Cypriot from Wood Green

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Postby miltiades » Sun Mar 15, 2009 10:24 pm

Oracle wrote:
miltiades wrote:
Oracle wrote:
miltiades wrote:
Oracle wrote:
miltiades wrote:Those who carried out this cowardly attack were nothing short of bloody murderers , pieces of garbage no different from the savages who carry out suicide bomb attacks killing utterly innocent people indiscriminately.
The IRA has put down its arms , have abandoned violence they have not abandoned their goal of a united Ireland but have decided quite rightly that this goal can only be achieved by peaceful and democratic means.
Do ignore Oracle , I did at one stage think that she had a brain , now I know she does have a brain but appears to be rather immune to reason and common sense , like one of her admirers , Eliko , she wants to know what makes these bastards do what they do , I tell you what makes them do what they do , they are bloody sick in the head , brainwashed they are NOT because they possess no brain to be washed , they are just fucking stupid bastards that ought to be taken out of society and taken to somewhere in Cuba.


Do you fear Guantanamo will lie empty? Fill it up with the Irish now. :roll:

Let me correct you , incidentally I'm getting a bit cheesed off correcting you , Its not the Irish that I want out of the system is the bloody maniacs who commit these atrocities !
Yes , throw the bastard cowards in there and throw the key away. Bloody maniacs !
You too can join them O I've gone right off you mate since it was mentioned in another thread that the Turkish troops are still here because of you !!


Funny :? ... you were pretty quick to blame all Muslims when they were indiscriminately chucking people in Guantanamo, denying them their Human rights!

Maybe GR! has rubbed some sense in to you, finally 8) ... But No! look at your silly last sentence :roll: I guess you can't teach an old dog like you new tricks, after all.

My advice to you O is that You have passed your ..say by date !!
It sounds rather old fashion but I'm convinced you should devote a bit more time to chores more in line with a 60 year old !!
As for Plonker GR influencing me its like saying that my year old , soon to be, grandson has become a ..father !!!!
Both you and he are , as I said before , a massive liability to the Cyprus cause . Imagine , only pretend mind you , and God forbid , that the negotiating process currently taking place was in your hands and those of GR !!!! Oh Boy !! :lol: :lol:


I have a long time to go before I have to concern myself about chores for a 60 year old ....

Don't worry about negotiations; Have faith in Christofias and the EU, and in the belief that democracy and freedom will prevail. We can't let the Turks eat up bits of Europe now can we? :lol:

I know you are not 60 , never said you were !!
I do have faith in the EU , Christophias has to prove himself as a statesman , time will tell , until then I will always support the Roc in its efforts to negotiate a settlement that would meet with the approval of the Cypriot people.
ps. Cant wait for Friday to come , I always get uncontrollably excited at the prospect of spending a few days in glorious Cyprus !!
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Postby Simon » Mon Mar 16, 2009 4:15 am

People should not really comment on the situation if you have no clue what you are talking about, as some clearly do not! It is not as simple as giving Ireland back to the Irish; the majority of the population of Northern Ireland actually want to remain as part of the United Kingdom, and regard themselves as British. These terrorists have no support, not even from the majority of Republicans. They are simply a tiny minority who believe that shooting unarmed people (yes the soldiers were unarmed) is going to get them somewhere. If anything, it will convince the majority that the British soldiers should stay. After all, who would want such lunatics to have free reign in a democratic and modern country.
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Postby rawk » Sun Mar 22, 2009 12:46 am

I don't often post now, there's no point.

But I will tell you one thing as someone with British military experience.

This is addressed to Oracle in particular.

If the British Sovereign Bases had not been in existence under the 1960 Cyprus Constitution, the 1974 invasion by Turkey would have not stopped at the Green Line. Their plan was the annexation of Cyprus and no one would have stopped them

However, Turkey was warned by in no uncertain terms through the UN Command at that time on the ground (British) that no further advance than the green line drawn up by them would be tolerated by Britain.

By then, Harold Wilson's government had just woken up to what was happening and British warships had been instructed to sail to the eastern Mediterranean and there not only evacuated British subjects from Kyrenia but rescued sailors from a Turkish warship hit by their own jets.

Count yourself lucky. But for the British Sovereign Bases you could all be Mersin 10 by now.

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Postby Oracle » Sun Mar 22, 2009 1:00 am

rawk wrote:I don't often post now, there's no point.

But I will tell you one thing as someone with British military experience.

This is addressed to Oracle in particular.

If the British Sovereign Bases had not been in existence under the 1960 Cyprus Constitution, the 1974 invasion by Turkey would have not stopped at the Green Line. Their plan was the annexation of Cyprus and no one would have stopped them

However, Turkey was warned by in no uncertain terms through the UN Command at that time on the ground (British) that no further advance than the green line drawn up by them would be tolerated by Britain.

By then, Harold Wilson's government had just woken up to what was happening and British warships had been instructed to sail to the eastern Mediterranean and there not only evacuated British subjects from Kyrenia but rescued sailors from a Turkish warship hit by their own jets.

Count yourself lucky. But for the British Sovereign Bases you could all be Mersin 10 by now.

rawk


Wilson's government was powerless to do anything ... by their own admission their concern was the three day week and trouble at home. Hence why they would not stop Turkey's invasion. The only restrain to Turkey's invasion was the UN ... not the UK! It was as much as they could do to selfishly hold on to their Bases! Which they still could not pay for ...

So don't turn it round as some kind of favour.

You reneged on the only thing you had to bargain with, for the favour of being allowed the Bases .. in your impoverished state ... you looked after your own, and that is all!

With friends like you, who needs enemies?

Has beens ....
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Postby yialousa1971 » Sun Mar 22, 2009 1:18 am

rawk wrote:I don't often post now, there's no point.

But I will tell you one thing as someone with British military experience.

This is addressed to Oracle in particular.

If the British Sovereign Bases had not been in existence under the 1960 Cyprus Constitution, the 1974 invasion by Turkey would have not stopped at the Green Line. Their plan was the annexation of Cyprus and no one would have stopped them

However, Turkey was warned by in no uncertain terms through the UN Command at that time on the ground (British) that no further advance than the green line drawn up by them would be tolerated by Britain.

By then, Harold Wilson's government had just woken up to what was happening and British warships had been instructed to sail to the eastern Mediterranean and there not only evacuated British subjects from Kyrenia but rescued sailors from a Turkish warship hit by their own jets.

Count yourself lucky. But for the British Sovereign Bases you could all be Mersin 10 by now.

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Nonsense, when it comes to helping the Turks you Anglos were/will be the first. Remember when you bombed the Serbs, I'll never forget that, puppets of ZOG you are!
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Postby bigdog » Tue Mar 24, 2009 12:37 am

Simon wrote:People should not really comment on the situation if you have no clue what you are talking about, as some clearly do not! It is not as simple as giving Ireland back to the Irish; the majority of the population of Northern Ireland actually want to remain as part of the United Kingdom, and regard themselves as British. These terrorists have no support, not even from the majority of Republicans. They are simply a tiny minority who believe that shooting unarmed people (yes the soldiers were unarmed) is going to get them somewhere. If anything, it will convince the majority that the British soldiers should stay. After all, who would want such lunatics to have free reign in a democratic and modern country.


Nice to see that some one at least takes time to educate themselves before opening their big mouth to spread hate and bile !
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Postby purdey » Tue Mar 24, 2009 1:07 pm

Thank god someone bombed the Serbs Yialousa. They were totally out of control. In all my service I have never seen such brutality, rape on such a huge scale. They were lining up to join the marauding, scavenging blood lusting thugs who went on a total rampage.
My only regret was we were not allowed to engage the sick bastards.
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Postby DT. » Tue Mar 24, 2009 1:29 pm

purdey wrote:Thank god someone bombed the Serbs Yialousa. They were totally out of control. In all my service I have never seen such brutality, rape on such a huge scale. They were lining up to join the marauding, scavenging blood lusting thugs who went on a total rampage.
My only regret was we were not allowed to engage the sick bastards.


And who was protecting the Serbs in Kosovo from the ALbanian atrocities while all this was going on?
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Postby Oracle » Tue Mar 24, 2009 1:43 pm

Simon wrote:People should not really comment on the situation if you have no clue what you are talking about, as some clearly do not! It is not as simple as giving Ireland back to the Irish; the majority of the population of Northern Ireland actually want to remain as part of the United Kingdom, and regard themselves as British. These terrorists have no support, not even from the majority of Republicans. They are simply a tiny minority who believe that shooting unarmed people (yes the soldiers were unarmed) is going to get them somewhere. If anything, it will convince the majority that the British soldiers should stay. After all, who would want such lunatics to have free reign in a democratic and modern country.


Simon, I fail to understand your sentiments over the Ireland-England situation.

I'm trying to avoid siding, because I know the Irish and the English are one branch of the same people (same original language etc) stretching back several thousands of years, so I won't compare their situation with ours re. Turks ... but do you not sense a tiny twinge of hypocrisy with your stance here? :?
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Postby Simon » Tue Mar 24, 2009 1:52 pm

No, not at all.

If you understood the situation in Northern Ireland, you would understand why. It bears little comparison to Cyprus.

By the way, you are wrong about another thing; the English and Irish are not one branch of the same people.
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