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Postby Sophia1 » Sun Mar 15, 2009 2:04 pm

Cypriots are evil!! every one knows that! Middle Easterners tat tat tat....

Once I went to the sweet shop to buy a packet of crisps, as I was paying the shop assistant said " I see something in the paper today an Englezo Kupreo had a heart attack and died, I thought is it your dad?? I was like “I see a dead dog in the road just now and it looked a bit like your mother.. Every 1 in the shop starting laughing telling him that he deserved that lol :-) Un educated people tat tat tat lol lol lol :-)
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Postby Oracle » Sun Mar 15, 2009 2:04 pm

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74LB wrote:I wouldn't know what goes on in the mind of brainwashed individuals.


OK ... you've reached a decision. You have judged them as brainwashed.

That is very precise!

I wonder who brainwashed them to shoot indiscriminately and for no apparent reason, and why?


They are certainly not normal, spraying the pizza guys and their customers, even if they were soldiers.

Think about that next time you order a take-away if not in Cyprus then next time you are in the UK.


No it is not normal, that is why it frightens me (although I am not a soldier nor doing business with them), and I would like to know what drives people to such extremes of violence. That is why I asked you what would make someone behave this way, and you judged them as brainwashed. So who would brainwash them and why? Or is that a normal state of affairs, to brainwash people for no apparent reason?
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Postby denizaksulu » Sun Mar 15, 2009 2:11 pm

Oracle wrote:
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Oracle wrote:
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denizaksulu wrote:No different than EOKA.
Symptoms of colonialism. Difficult to thwart man's desire for freedom ....
Have you ever seen me attack EOKA, by denying them the right to fight for freedom? I might have mentioned their tactics of shooting women in the back though. :twisted:
Absurd Deniz. That was hardly a "tactic" .. and knowing the history a little better now, I wouldn't put it past the TMT  ... kill and blame someone else. Nasty and cowardly!... and the TMT didn't have any "redeeming" features such as fighting for freedom of their ancestral home ... they were just fighting to prevent the natives having their rights.



Nasty and cowardly indeed. Tell that to the victims family. You are first to blame the TMT for this. Congratulations.


Playing the "Crying Game" now, huh!

Don't start getting hysterical, when you were the one throwing around "probabilities", but then refusing to entertain "possibilities" ...

"Tactics" ... how absurd! :roll:


http://www.britains-smallwars.com/cyprus/Cutliffe.htm


Just for you O. You will by all probabilities rubbish it.


I won't bother with a British view of EOKA's fight for freedom ... even most Brits would sympathise with the possibility of some distortion of the truth :lol:

However, you decided to associate this killing with EOKA.

Are you suggesting that Britain is acting the same in Ireland, as it did in pre-colonial days in Cyprus? That is a strong accusation to levy on the Brits.

They had the good grace (albeit half-heartily and partially) to give Cyprus back to the Cypriots. Are you suggesting they should give Ireland back to the Irish, otherwise these "EOKA-style" (your analogy) freedom fighters might continue their fight for freedom?



Too many comments have passed since my first remark. What was meant to be said was that there ar peope who have not given up the struggle against their freedom. You took it the wrong way. But in my eyes, Eoka wanted more than that. That is the difference.
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Postby Oracle » Sun Mar 15, 2009 2:15 pm

denizaksulu wrote:
Oracle wrote:
denizaksulu wrote:
Oracle wrote:
denizaksulu wrote:
Oracle wrote:
denizaksulu wrote:
Oracle wrote:
denizaksulu wrote:No different than EOKA.
Symptoms of colonialism. Difficult to thwart man's desire for freedom ....
Have you ever seen me attack EOKA, by denying them the right to fight for freedom? I might have mentioned their tactics of shooting women in the back though. :twisted:
Absurd Deniz. That was hardly a "tactic" .. and knowing the history a little better now, I wouldn't put it past the TMT  ... kill and blame someone else. Nasty and cowardly!... and the TMT didn't have any "redeeming" features such as fighting for freedom of their ancestral home ... they were just fighting to prevent the natives having their rights.



Nasty and cowardly indeed. Tell that to the victims family. You are first to blame the TMT for this. Congratulations.


Playing the "Crying Game" now, huh!

Don't start getting hysterical, when you were the one throwing around "probabilities", but then refusing to entertain "possibilities" ...

"Tactics" ... how absurd! :roll:


http://www.britains-smallwars.com/cyprus/Cutliffe.htm


Just for you O. You will by all probabilities rubbish it.


I won't bother with a British view of EOKA's fight for freedom ... even most Brits would sympathise with the possibility of some distortion of the truth :lol:

However, you decided to associate this killing with EOKA.

Are you suggesting that Britain is acting the same in Ireland, as it did in pre-colonial days in Cyprus? That is a strong accusation to levy on the Brits.

They had the good grace (albeit half-heartily and partially) to give Cyprus back to the Cypriots. Are you suggesting they should give Ireland back to the Irish, otherwise these "EOKA-style" (your analogy) freedom fighters might continue their fight for freedom?



Too many comments have passed since my first remark. What was meant to be said was that there ar peope who have not given up the struggle against their freedom. You took it the wrong way. But in my eyes, Eoka wanted more than that. That is the difference.


Not really, don't be defeatist (cowardly?). Have a go at answering what you started. Should Britain give back Ireland or continue to face "EOKA-style" (your comparison) freedom fighters?

Nevertheless, whatever EOKA wanted at the time, was what the majority of the Cypriots wanted. Freedom and self determination and removal of all foreign colonial powers .....
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Postby Sophia1 » Sun Mar 15, 2009 2:25 pm

Why are you lot so bothered about it, got nothing to do with you keep out of it..
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Postby 74LB » Sun Mar 15, 2009 2:25 pm

Oracle wrote:
74LB wrote:
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74LB wrote:I wouldn't know what goes on in the mind of brainwashed individuals.


OK ... you've reached a decision. You have judged them as brainwashed.

That is very precise!

I wonder who brainwashed them to shoot indiscriminately and for no apparent reason, and why?


They are certainly not normal, spraying the pizza guys and their customers, even if they were soldiers.

Think about that next time you order a take-away if not in Cyprus then next time you are in the UK.


No it is not normal, that is why it frightens me (although I am not a soldier nor doing business with them), and I would like to know what drives people to such extremes of violence. That is why I asked you what would make someone behave this way, and you judged them as brainwashed. So who would brainwash them and why? Or is that a normal state of affairs, to brainwash people for no apparent reason?


Regardless, I still think they are brainwashed, most likely by their close circle of 'friends'. A psychiatrist may help (them and you).
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Postby Sophia1 » Sun Mar 15, 2009 2:27 pm

Cypriots are brainwashed too the stuff they come out with is amazing lol :-)
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Postby Oracle » Sun Mar 15, 2009 2:30 pm

74LB wrote:
Oracle wrote:
74LB wrote:
Oracle wrote:
74LB wrote:I wouldn't know what goes on in the mind of brainwashed individuals.


OK ... you've reached a decision. You have judged them as brainwashed.

That is very precise!

I wonder who brainwashed them to shoot indiscriminately and for no apparent reason, and why?


They are certainly not normal, spraying the pizza guys and their customers, even if they were soldiers.

Think about that next time you order a take-away if not in Cyprus then next time you are in the UK.


No it is not normal, that is why it frightens me (although I am not a soldier nor doing business with them), and I would like to know what drives people to such extremes of violence. That is why I asked you what would make someone behave this way, and you judged them as brainwashed. So who would brainwash them and why? Or is that a normal state of affairs, to brainwash people for no apparent reason?


Regardless, I still think they are brainwashed, most likely by their close circle of 'friends'. A physchiatrist may help (them and you).


I know you said they were brainwashed, but you haven't answered WHY ...

But I sense from your personal insult, that I have made you uncomfortable to explore this further. Regarding your juxtaposition; we'll resume analysis another time ....
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Postby Sophia1 » Sun Mar 15, 2009 2:32 pm

Ok answer this what made you so bitter?? have you been brainwashed against turks, English and everything not G.C?? Well??? If you answer that question then you have just answered your own :-)
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Postby denizaksulu » Sun Mar 15, 2009 4:06 pm

Oracle wrote:
denizaksulu wrote:
Oracle wrote:
denizaksulu wrote:
Oracle wrote:
denizaksulu wrote:
Oracle wrote:
denizaksulu wrote:
Oracle wrote:
denizaksulu wrote:No different than EOKA.
Symptoms of colonialism. Difficult to thwart man's desire for freedom ....
Have you ever seen me attack EOKA, by denying them the right to fight for freedom? I might have mentioned their tactics of shooting women in the back though. :twisted:
Absurd Deniz. That was hardly a "tactic" .. and knowing the history a little better now, I wouldn't put it past the TMT  ... kill and blame someone else. Nasty and cowardly!... and the TMT didn't have any "redeeming" features such as fighting for freedom of their ancestral home ... they were just fighting to prevent the natives having their rights.



Nasty and cowardly indeed. Tell that to the victims family. You are first to blame the TMT for this. Congratulations.


Playing the "Crying Game" now, huh!

Don't start getting hysterical, when you were the one throwing around "probabilities", but then refusing to entertain "possibilities" ...

"Tactics" ... how absurd! :roll:


http://www.britains-smallwars.com/cyprus/Cutliffe.htm


Just for you O. You will by all probabilities rubbish it.


I won't bother with a British view of EOKA's fight for freedom ... even most Brits would sympathise with the possibility of some distortion of the truth :lol:

However, you decided to associate this killing with EOKA.

Are you suggesting that Britain is acting the same in Ireland, as it did in pre-colonial days in Cyprus? That is a strong accusation to levy on the Brits.

They had the good grace (albeit half-heartily and partially) to give Cyprus back to the Cypriots. Are you suggesting they should give Ireland back to the Irish, otherwise these "EOKA-style" (your analogy) freedom fighters might continue their fight for freedom?



Too many comments have passed since my first remark. What was meant to be said was that there ar peope who have not given up the struggle against their freedom. You took it the wrong way. But in my eyes, Eoka wanted more than that. That is the difference.


Not really, don't be defeatist (cowardly?). Have a go at answering what you started. Should Britain give back Ireland or continue to face "EOKA-style" (your comparison) freedom fighters?

Nevertheless, whatever EOKA wanted at the time, was what the majority of the Cypriots wanted. Freedom and self determination and removal of all foreign colonial powers .....


Dont provoke me Oracle. I am not in a 'word games' mood. Yet.
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