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Darwin was banned on new issue: Bilim ve Teknik in Turkey

Postby Cem » Fri Mar 13, 2009 8:53 pm

Darwin was banned on new issue: Bilim ve Teknik in Turkey

by f451 » Mon Mar 09, 2009 8:38 pm

In the new release (March), the cover of Bilim ve Teknik (Science & Tech), one of the most known science magazine of the country published by TUBITAK (The Scientific and Technological Research Council of Turkey), has been changed after the release has been completed and ready for printing, according to the decision made by the Vice President to the institution, Prof.Dr. Omer Cebeci.

Speculations show that the Publishing Manager of the magazine Cigdem Atakuman (she is also a member of TUBITAK Science Council) has been warned by Cebeci to renew the issue changing the cover showing Darwin's 200th birth anniversary and 15 pages of articles and news about Darwin and his theory to Global warming.

Dr. Cigdem Atakuman did not answer any of the questions posted by the press, explaining that there is more to say but she is still the staff of the institution and cannot talk. The official announcement has not been made yet, expected later on this week.

http://richarddawkins.net/forum/viewtop ... 17&t=74852
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Postby Oracle » Fri Mar 13, 2009 9:20 pm

Darwin doesn't need Turkey's approval or support.

It's Turkey taking itself out of the evolutionary equation, as it struggles to survive, in a meritocracy of measure of fitness ....
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Postby bill cobbett » Fri Mar 13, 2009 9:35 pm

Any kind of press censorship is intolerable but this banning of scientific reportage really takes the biscuit.
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Postby Cem » Fri Mar 13, 2009 9:40 pm

The issue is fast turning into a face-off between proponents and opponents.

From the following link:
http://www.nature.com/news/2009/090310/ ... 9.150.html

Mark, beware that it is not only the article that is banned, it is the whole issue. The magazine went to a complete change of the subject and did not include a word of Darwin. I wish it was simple a dislike of an article in the last minute (which is not so professional either). Censorship and Turkey goes along in many ways especially after the AKP (also the current) government. They want more Islamic and a less rational country. Just another example of democracy being a dangerous weapon when used unwisely.
10 Mar, 2009 Posted by: Betul Kacar

This is an outragous event, perhaps only comparable to Lysenko events of the Soviet Russia in scale. Science is blatantly being whacked by fundamental religious policies in Turkey. In an interconnected world, we can't ignore and leave a node boil with its problems. I am very pleased that Nature carried this serious issue promptly to the agenda of the international scientific community.
10 Mar, 2009 Posted by: Uzay Sezen

From an Anti-Evolutionist:

We dont believe evolution theory in Turkey. As everybody knows, Richard Dawkins does not accept to debate with Adnan Oktar. Becuse he couldnt give any answer for these questions: Only 5 of 100 million fossils are laid before you You?re asked if a single protein can emerge by chance The existence of 100 million fossils are mentioned The emergence of irreducibly complex systems of living things are asked You apprehend you have no answer about the emergence of life You have no answer for the Cambrian animals You have no explanation for Darwinist forgeries Another news: Darwinist Douglas Futuyma flees in Rome!In Pontifical Gregorian University, Darwinists intended to show off and deceive people, but they were riposted. Douglas Futuyma left the platform in the face of truth. Futuyma found the solution in fleeing, just like Richard Dawkins. You can watch this link: http://www.harunyahya.com/articles/doug ... _flees.php You can also read all books about The Collapse of the Theory of Evolution: http://www.harunyahya.com/en.m_book_list.php?cId=76 http://www.harunyahya.com/en.m_book_list.php?cId=77 And please visit web page about Darwinist Cries and Panic who preoared by Adnan oktar http://www.harunyahya.com/en.m_website_index.php I want to congratulate Tübitak for this correct decision, nobody believes this absurdity in Turkey in this century!

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Postby paliometoxo » Fri Mar 13, 2009 9:47 pm

i dont get what happend.. so a science magazine the turkish goverment dident like it?
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Postby Cem » Fri Mar 13, 2009 9:55 pm

paliometoxo wrote:i dont get what happend.. so a science magazine the turkish goverment dident like it?


Not an ordinary science magazine, but a science magazine issued by a governmental institution (TÜBİTAK).
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Postby Oracle » Fri Mar 13, 2009 10:11 pm

paliometoxo wrote:i dont get what happend.. so a science magazine the turkish goverment dident like it?


They burnt copies of a magazine which discussed Darwin's (200th) birthday anniversary, and re-published without the article. So it is state-sponsored, anti-evolution (what Darwin stands for). Turkey is finally showing it is not progressive, but Islamic in principles.

A while back, the Turkish government allowed the banning of Richard Dawkin's associated sites etc., because he is the modern day equivalent of what Darwin started ... that scientific experimentation is preferable to dogmatic, religious indoctrination.

If nothing else, this reason alone should disqualify Turkey from any EU accession negotiations ....
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Postby Cem » Fri Mar 13, 2009 10:16 pm

Here is the front cover of the Bilim ve Teknik (Science & Tech) journal before and after censor went into effect:



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On the left commemoration of the 200th anniversary of the scientist and on the right modified issue about the global warming.
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Postby insan » Fri Mar 13, 2009 10:27 pm

Cem wrote:Here is the front cover of the Bilim ve Teknik (Science & Tech) journal before and after censor went into effect:



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On the left commemoration of the 200th anniversary of the scientist and on the right modified issue about the global warming.



Cem, where do u live?

http://www.habercem.com/haberdetay.asp? ... tegoryid=1

TÜBİTAK, Bilim ve Teknik Dergisi’nin Mart sayısında Darwin ile ilgili yazının sansürlendiği iddialarına yazılı bir açıklamayla yanıt verdi. TÜBİTAK’tan yapılan açıklamada, “sansür” iddiaları yalanlanırken, tamamen kurum içi süreçlerdeki aksaklıkların ve Sorumlu Yazı İşleri Müdürü ve Yayın Yönetmeninin yetki aşımından kaynaklanan sorunların “Darwin Sansürü” olarak algılanmasının, hem Kurum hem de bilim camiası için çok üzücü olduğu belirtildi. Açıklama yayın süreci şöyle aktarıldı:

“Bilim ve Teknik Dergisinin Mart 2009 sayısında ‘Küresel iklim değişikliği’ ana temasının işlenmesi kararlaştırılmıştır. Bu tema doğrultusunda editoryal çalışmaların tamamlandığı ve görsel çalışmalara devam edildiği bilgisi, 27 Şubat 2009 tarihinde Sorumlu Yazı İşleri Müdürü ve Yayın Yönetmeni Dr. Çiğdem Atakuman tarafından, Başkan Yardımcısı Prof. Dr. Ömer Cebeci’ye bildirilmiştir. Derginin Mart sayısı Darwin Yılı veya Kuramına hasredilmemiş, ancak Darwin ve Evrim Kuramı ile ilgili TÜBİTAK yayınları, derginin “Yayın Dünyası” sayfalarında yer almıştır. Ancak, rutin yayın süreçlerinin dışında, basım aşamasından hemen önce, Dr. Atakuman tarafından, dergiye 16 sayfa ilave edilmiş ve bu doğrultuda, hafta sonu kapak da değiştirilmiştir. Olağan süreç ve işlemlerin dışına çıkılarak, hafta sonu acele ile değiştirilerek hazırlatılan dergi, 2 Mart Pazartesi sabahı Prof. Cebeci’nin görüşüne sunulmuştur. Doğal olarak, Darwin Yılı temasının, bir uzman yardımcısı tarafından kaleme alınmış ve bilimsel değerlendirmesi yapılmamış ilave sayfalar ile yayınlanmasının uygunluğu sorgulanmıştır. Bunun üzerine Dr. Atakuman, yaptığı yanlışlığın farkına vararak kendi inisiyatifiyle dergi içeriğini ve kapağını tekrar 27 Şubat tarihi itibariyle hazırlanmış olan “Küresel iklim değişikliği” temasına dönüştürerek basıma gönderilmesi kararı ve talimatını vermiştir.”
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Postby halil » Fri Mar 13, 2009 10:28 pm

Cem , who tells the truth ? these are the today latest news from news agencies .

TÜBİTAK denies Darwin censorship allegations

The Scientific and Technological Research Council of Turkey (TÜBİTAK) announced yesterday that it did not censor of a story on the founder of evolutionary theory, Charles Darwin, in its popular monthly magazine Bilim ve Teknik (Science and Technology).

It was claimed that an executive member of TÜBİTAK intervened at the last minute to remove a dossier on the theory of evolution from the March issue. This action also changed the cover, which featured an image of Darwin, causing the magazine to hit newsstands one week after its deadline with a new cover focused on the topic of global climate change.

TÜBİTAK answered recent debates on an alleged censorship of Darwin in Bilim ve Teknik with a written statement released yesterday. The statement said the problem, as evaluated by the council, was caused by an executive editor exceeding her authority, which worried both scientific circles and TÜBİTAK. According to the statement, TÜBİTAK had decided to run a story on global climate change in Bilim ve Teknik's March issue, but just before it went to press, Executive Editor Çiğdem Atakuman added 16 pages on Darwin and the theory of evolution, which had been decided to be handled in the "Publishing World" pages of the magazine; the cover page was also re-dedicated to Darwin.

"The magazine's new version was presented to Deputy President Ömer Cebeci on March 2. It was natural that the new version was questioned since this additional dossier was not planned or scientifically evaluated beforehand," read the statement. As noted in the statement, Atakuman realized her mistake and sent the magazine's first version to the print, changing the cover page as well. "It is not true that a story on Darwin was censored by Deputy President Ömer Cebeci and the TÜBİTAK administration. However, taking into consideration Atakuman exceeding her authority, a departmental change has been offered to her," read the statement. TÜBİTAK also announced that they plan to allocate one of its subsequent issues in 2009 to Charles Darwin and his theory of evolution.

13 March 2009, Friday




AKŞAM | GUNCEL | 13 MART 2009, CUMA


TÜBİTAK'ın Darwin'le barışı

TÜBİTAK, Bilim ve Teknik Dergisi'ndeki 'Darwin sansürü' haberlerine bir açıklamayla yanıt verdi. Açıklamada şöyle denildi: 'Dr. Çiğdem Atakuman tarafından son anda dergiye 16 sayfa ilave edilmiş ve kapak da değiştirilmiştir. Olağan süreç dışına çıkılarak, hafta sonu acele ile değiştirilerek hazırlatılan dergi, Prof. Ömer Cebeci'nin görüşüne sunulmuştur. Doğal olarak, bilimsel değerlendirmesi yapılmamış ilave sayfaların uygunluğu sorgulanmıştır. Bunun üzerine Dr. Atakuman, yaptığı yanlışlığın farkına vararak kendi inisiyatifiyle dergi içeriği ve kapağının eski haline dönüştürülmesi için talimat vermiştir.'
Açıklamada ortada bir 'Darwin sansürü' olmadığı belirtilerek, 'Ancak Dr. Atakuman'ın daha önceki dönemlerde de sergilediği, yetki aşımı ile ilgili olaylar da göz önüne alınarak, kendisine kurum içi değişiklik önerilmiştir' denildi. Açıklamada 2009'un Darwin yılı olduğu anımsatılarak bu yıl içinde özel bir Darwin sayısı hazırlanacağı belirtildi. 'Darwin'e sansür' dün YÖK gündemine de geldi. Bazı üyeler eleştirilerini iletti.

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