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[bill cobbett]

my domain is .cy and in the north its .tr how can it think i am in the north.. paliometoxo is about 20-25 minutes to the trnc boarders depending on traffic

Oh dear, this is not good....Palio, go to your window and look outside. The Jurkish Army may have broken the cease-fire. If they have, pm GR and DT and they'll be around with the reservists and the BBQ.

[paliometoxo]

lol.. just driving into town a few minutes up the road i still see the turkish flags unless its a cloudy day

no chance of them doing that

[Oracle]

.. A kind of it is related with freedom of speech in Greece.

A kind of? A kind of?

It's "kind of" related to Greece simply because it has the word "Greece" in it, alongside: "freedom of speech", which are obviously the terms you Googled for.

Your misplaced, desperate anti-Hellenism, has blinded you to what the article is actually saying. And the rest of what you assume is exactly what I told you before. You see the word "Greece" than you load it with fantasy and off you go into the realms of the unknown ... seeking "knowledge" without the ability to sort the wheat from the chaff.

[insan]

.. A kind of it is related with freedom of speech in Greece.

A kind of? A kind of?

It's "kind of" related to Greece simply because it has the word "Greece" in it, alongside: "freedom of speech", which are obviously the terms you Googled for.

Your misplaced, desperate anti-Hellenism, has blinded you to what the article is actually saying. And the rest of what you assume is exactly what I told you before. You see the word "Greece" than you load it with fantasy and off you go into the realms of the unknown ... seeking "knowledge" without the ability to sort the wheat from the chaff.

Pure galimatias. U r a basket case, poor Oracles. The realities r beyond ur comprehension. Most of the women has same handicap so don't feel sad abt it. U r one of them. U r just an ordinary, local biologist; that's all.

Have a nice day while gossiping with ur female friends. It's the best thing u r able to do.

G Gaia:
The common dogma [of fundamentalists] is fear of modern knowledge, inability to cope with the fast change in a scientific-technological society, and the real breakdown in apparent moral order in recent years.... That is why hate is the major fuel, fear is the cement of the movement, and superstitious ignorance is the best defense against the dangerous new knowledge. ... When you bring up arguments that cast serious doubts on their cherished beliefs you are not simply making a rhetorical point, you are threatening their whole Universe and their immortality. That provokes anger and quite frequently violence. ... Unfortunately you cannot reason with them and you even risk violence in confronting them. Their numbers will decline only when society stabilizes, and adapts to modernity.

[Oracle]

.. A kind of it is related with freedom of speech in Greece.

A kind of? A kind of?

It's "kind of" related to Greece simply because it has the word "Greece" in it, alongside: "freedom of speech", which are obviously the terms you Googled for.

Your misplaced, desperate anti-Hellenism, has blinded you to what the article is actually saying. And the rest of what you assume is exactly what I told you before. You see the word "Greece" than you load it with fantasy and off you go into the realms of the unknown ... seeking "knowledge" without the ability to sort the wheat from the chaff.

Pure galimatias. U r a basket case, poor Oracles. The realities r beyond ur comprehension. Most of the women has same handicap so don't feel sad abt it. U r one of them. U r just an ordinary, local biolagist; that's all.

Have a nice day while gossiping with ur female friends. It's the best thing u r able to do.

G Gaia:
The common dogma [of fundamentalists] is fear of modern knowledge, inability to cope with the fast change in a scientific-technological society, and the real breakdown in apparent moral order in recent years.... That is why hate is the major fuel, fear is the cement of the movement, and superstitious ignorance is the best defense against the dangerous new knowledge. ... When you bring up arguments that cast serious doubts on their cherished beliefs you are not simply making a rhetorical point, you are threatening their whole Universe and their immortality. That provokes anger and quite frequently violence. ... Unfortunately you cannot reason with them and you even risk violence in confronting them. Their numbers will decline only when society stabilizes, and adapts to modernity.

And therein lies the crux of your problem ... Self-diagnosis; can't beat it, huh insan

You harp on about Hellenism, when it's the Turkish army occupying Cyprus, right now, which you need to concentrate upon!

BTW .... Don't mock my female friends (between them, they have more University degrees than the whole "trnc"). Besides, we just might visit you at the fountain of knowledge (your Internet cafe), the source of colossal cerebral activity, the powerhouse of the mind, the generator of genius .... for a few Cappuccinos

[bill cobbett]

What were we talking about?.....

.....oh yes, the banning of the Darwin Celebration Edition of a science magazine in Turkey.

It seems only a few weeks ago that, and much to its credit of course, the RoT central bank issued a set of Tr Lire bank-notes which featured and honoured Darwin but now another organ of the RoT, this science funding agency bans this Darwin Edition.

These two clearly contradictory, opposite actions do tell me that there are some pretty serious and fundamental divisions within the RoT with the scientists and others pushing for liberalisation and the Islamist plonkers trying to take the country back to some much darker, less enlightened age.

Does illustrate a serious polarisation.

[Oracle]

What were we talking about?.....

.....oh yes, the banning of the Darwin Celebration Edition of a science magazine in Turkey.

It seems only a few weeks ago that, and much to its credit of course, the RoT central bank issued a set of Tr Lire bank-notes which featured and honoured Darwin but now another organ of the RoT, this science funding agency bans this Darwin Edition.

These two clearly contradictory, opposite actions do tell me that there are some pretty serious and fundamental divisions within the RoT with the scientists and others pushing for liberalisation and the Islamist plonkers trying to take the country back to some much darker, less enlightened age.

Does illustrate a serious polarisation.

Maybe it occurred by mutation i.e. a printing error. Or perhaps they were hoping the Lira would evolve into real money by Darwinian association

Most likely they were following an Anglicised trend, and then realised what Darwin stood for, too late.

[paliometoxo]

well dident .tr ban youtube?..

why is turkey fighting so hard to be in eu whent hey are obviously going to reject everything abotu the eu and change things once they are in? im not a racist but a muslim country wont agree with anything the christians do

[Cem]

Helloo, looks like Unkie Darwin doesn't seem to be popular in the land of Spartan Warriors either:

http://www.cyprus-mail.com/news/main.ph ... &archive=1

Two hundred years of Darwin, but not in Greece
By Lauren O’Hara
(archive article - Saturday, February 21, 2009)

HE MAY have been born exactly 200 years ago and it may be 150 years since his groundbreaking book Origin of the Species was published but Darwin still draws crowds and controversy. They were gathered in Athens last week to listen to three academics reflect on their own personal view of the eminent biologist. And, as we might have predicted, just as when he first presented his theories in conservative Victorian England and was jeered and lampooned for suggesting the genetic links that unite our common ancestry and the process of ‘survival of the fittest’ in natural selection, there were those in the audience who were still affronted. Those who believed it heresy, who took to their feet and quoted Genesis and the Gospel of St John, who refused to accept the possibility of evolution.

For they are powerful forces here in Greece. Although it is not illegal, unlike some parts of the US, Darwin is still omitted from many state schools’ curriculum. It is a state of affairs that infuriates many local academics who find students entering their Greek University departments to study biology with no knowledge of the theory. It is not surprising: a report published in 2008 by the Department of Education at the University of Athens found that “Even though the theory of evolution is included in the 12th grade biology textbook, it is not taught in Greek upper (senior) high schools.”

The line from government appears to be that teaching the theory of evolution is a matter of conscience not compulsion with the effect that many students leave school ignorant of its existence. On the panel one Emeritus Professor of Philosophy explained why. Evolutionary theory he told us was simply an ideology to place along side religion, it did not take account of the divinity within us all nor, perhaps, the legacy of “Greekness”.

To his left on the podium, Professor Zouros of the University of Crete smiled wryly. As a highly regarded biologist, he made it unequivocally clear where he stood. Transmutation of DNA was a fact: an observable fact. A fact described and catalogued by Darwin and his painstaking research on finches. A fact proved by the human genome project. A fact he needed his Greek students to understand.

Of course, to some extent creationists and exponents of Intelligent Design are right, it is hard to observe the process of evolution in man: the length of our life cycle means genetically we alter slowly. The changes we observe about weight and illness and longevity or the roles of men and women and children are often due to social factors not evolution. Which is why Zouros told us, with an impish gleefulness, that he could confidently predict man would not last as long as other species. When it came to survival it would be bacteria, which had already lived for millions of years, not the meek, that would inherit the earth.

A shame then, that church and dogma still haunt the Greek education system and they are not actively promoting total access to all knowledge. For as Darwin wrote: “It is not the strongest of the species that survives, nor the most intelligent that survives. It is the one that is the most adaptable to change.”

Copyright © Cyprus Mail 2009

Err...Folks can anyone tell me the Greek word for ...SHAME ?

[Oracle]

We've discussed this article here:

http://www.cyprus-forum.com/cyprus22382 ... torder=asc

It is nowhere near equivalent to a banning and more to do with how difficult the theory of Evolution is to teach to that age bracket, when a true appreciation of more detailed concepts is necessary as a foundation.