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Postby Oracle » Sat Mar 14, 2009 1:15 am

insan wrote:
Oracle wrote:
insan wrote:
Oracle wrote:
insan wrote:http://www.famousmuslims.com/harunyahya.htm
http://www.harunyahya.com/

Adnan Oktar has been one of the most debated islamists of Turkey since mid 80s. He has his own islamic group called Adnancilar. Among his followers there r so many super models, actresses and actors. Wearing head scarf is not required for his followers. There r plenty of allegations abt him and a 3 years of prison sentence.

He is a very influential person and I guess his influential power arise from his wealthy followers. I have respect for his views but I'm against banning books, websites etc. If something constitutes illegality the person or the persons who comitted it; should be tried.


You haven't got a clue what he preaches. You just support him because you are a parrot-like imitating android, following the programme Turkey has written for you, little fantasist fairy Giga Nationalist tonsil-less milk-frother!


:lol: U pathetic, brain-washed, embryonic creature. U r living inside ur little world with the fear of facing truths that will destroy ur little world built on official lies and propaganda. :lol:


STATE DEPT MULLS "BOOK BURNING"

The Department of State is under growing pressure from the Central Intelligence Agency to destroy its inventory of an official history of U.S. relations with Greece during the 1960s and to replace it with a new, sanitized version.

Some 1500 copies of "Foreign Relations of the United States (FRUS), 1964-1968, volume XVI" on US policy towards Greece, Cyprus, Turkey have been printed. But they have been withheld from circulation because of last minute concerns raised by the CIA.

The sticking point appears to be a handful of documents that allude to CIA intervention in the electoral process in Greece some 35 years ago. CIA officials claim that release of such documents could upset current relations with Greece or even provide a pretext for terrorism.


http://www.fas.org/sgp/news/secrecy/2001/09/092101.html

2 years ago, an AHI spokesman in his letter to then the president of US, was asking more revisions in favour of Greece and against Turkey. :lol:

Sooner or later all truths will be revealed. Lies and propaganda cannot live forever. :D


Do you understand, even just every other word, of what you post :lol: :lol:

Thanks for posting the above! :lol:

I'll have a large Americano now, please .... 8)


Long before I've read that article above, I've told u that US has done everything possible to gain sympaty of Greeks just because during the cold-war era and until recent times they needed Greece to fix their jobs on Balkans but I added one more thing that mission has been completed in Balkans. No more freebies for Greece anymore. :lol:


Insan don't make sweeping generalisations and assumptions when you don't understand the quotes you are presenting. There's a good android barista ....
:wink:
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Postby insan » Sat Mar 14, 2009 1:40 am

Oracle wrote:
insan wrote:
Oracle wrote:
insan wrote:
Oracle wrote:
insan wrote:http://www.famousmuslims.com/harunyahya.htm
http://www.harunyahya.com/

Adnan Oktar has been one of the most debated islamists of Turkey since mid 80s. He has his own islamic group called Adnancilar. Among his followers there r so many super models, actresses and actors. Wearing head scarf is not required for his followers. There r plenty of allegations abt him and a 3 years of prison sentence.

He is a very influential person and I guess his influential power arise from his wealthy followers. I have respect for his views but I'm against banning books, websites etc. If something constitutes illegality the person or the persons who comitted it; should be tried.


You haven't got a clue what he preaches. You just support him because you are a parrot-like imitating android, following the programme Turkey has written for you, little fantasist fairy Giga Nationalist tonsil-less milk-frother!


:lol: U pathetic, brain-washed, embryonic creature. U r living inside ur little world with the fear of facing truths that will destroy ur little world built on official lies and propaganda. :lol:


STATE DEPT MULLS "BOOK BURNING"

The Department of State is under growing pressure from the Central Intelligence Agency to destroy its inventory of an official history of U.S. relations with Greece during the 1960s and to replace it with a new, sanitized version.

Some 1500 copies of "Foreign Relations of the United States (FRUS), 1964-1968, volume XVI" on US policy towards Greece, Cyprus, Turkey have been printed. But they have been withheld from circulation because of last minute concerns raised by the CIA.

The sticking point appears to be a handful of documents that allude to CIA intervention in the electoral process in Greece some 35 years ago. CIA officials claim that release of such documents could upset current relations with Greece or even provide a pretext for terrorism.


http://www.fas.org/sgp/news/secrecy/2001/09/092101.html

2 years ago, an AHI spokesman in his letter to then the president of US, was asking more revisions in favour of Greece and against Turkey. :lol:

Sooner or later all truths will be revealed. Lies and propaganda cannot live forever. :D


Do you understand, even just every other word, of what you post :lol: :lol:

Thanks for posting the above! :lol:

I'll have a large Americano now, please .... 8)


Long before I've read that article above, I've told u that US has done everything possible to gain sympaty of Greeks just because during the cold-war era and until recent times they needed Greece to fix their jobs on Balkans but I added one more thing that mission has been completed in Balkans. No more freebies for Greece anymore. :lol:


Insan don't make sweeping generalisations and assumptions when you don't understand the quotes you are presenting. There's a good android barista ....
:wink:


There's nothing that I didn't understand. It's crystal clear. It was

something I've already known and emphisized for numerous times.

As long as u keep reading my posts u have a chance to enlarge ur

little world with the beautiful truths and rescue ur soul being the

captive of official lies and propaganda. :lol:
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Postby Oracle » Sat Mar 14, 2009 1:47 am

insan wrote:
Oracle wrote:
insan wrote:
Oracle wrote:
insan wrote:
Oracle wrote:
insan wrote:http://www.famousmuslims.com/harunyahya.htm
http://www.harunyahya.com/

Adnan Oktar has been one of the most debated islamists of Turkey since mid 80s. He has his own islamic group called Adnancilar. Among his followers there r so many super models, actresses and actors. Wearing head scarf is not required for his followers. There r plenty of allegations abt him and a 3 years of prison sentence.

He is a very influential person and I guess his influential power arise from his wealthy followers. I have respect for his views but I'm against banning books, websites etc. If something constitutes illegality the person or the persons who comitted it; should be tried.


You haven't got a clue what he preaches. You just support him because you are a parrot-like imitating android, following the programme Turkey has written for you, little fantasist fairy Giga Nationalist tonsil-less milk-frother!


:lol: U pathetic, brain-washed, embryonic creature. U r living inside ur little world with the fear of facing truths that will destroy ur little world built on official lies and propaganda. :lol:


STATE DEPT MULLS "BOOK BURNING"

The Department of State is under growing pressure from the Central Intelligence Agency to destroy its inventory of an official history of U.S. relations with Greece during the 1960s and to replace it with a new, sanitized version.

Some 1500 copies of "Foreign Relations of the United States (FRUS), 1964-1968, volume XVI" on US policy towards Greece, Cyprus, Turkey have been printed. But they have been withheld from circulation because of last minute concerns raised by the CIA.

The sticking point appears to be a handful of documents that allude to CIA intervention in the electoral process in Greece some 35 years ago. CIA officials claim that release of such documents could upset current relations with Greece or even provide a pretext for terrorism.


http://www.fas.org/sgp/news/secrecy/2001/09/092101.html

2 years ago, an AHI spokesman in his letter to then the president of US, was asking more revisions in favour of Greece and against Turkey. :lol:

Sooner or later all truths will be revealed. Lies and propaganda cannot live forever. :D


Do you understand, even just every other word, of what you post :lol: :lol:

Thanks for posting the above! :lol:

I'll have a large Americano now, please .... 8)


Long before I've read that article above, I've told u that US has done everything possible to gain sympaty of Greeks just because during the cold-war era and until recent times they needed Greece to fix their jobs on Balkans but I added one more thing that mission has been completed in Balkans. No more freebies for Greece anymore. :lol:


Insan don't make sweeping generalisations and assumptions when you don't understand the quotes you are presenting. There's a good android barista ....
:wink:


There's nothing that I didn't understand. It's crystal clear. It was

something I've already known and emphisized for numerous times.

As long as u keep reading my posts u have a chance to enlarge ur

little world with the beautiful truths and rescue ur soul being the

captive of official lies and propaganda. :lol:


So you are telling us, the CIA burnt the evidence to electoral rigging, which they instigated ... and it's supposed to be saying what about Freedom of Speech in Greece?

It's totally irrelevant as far as any wrongdoings by Greece; unless you want to use it as an example of the CIA being as bad as Turkey! Fine! :lol:

(BTW ... you forget the little rule: Greece is just another EU member and is not as relevant to these discussions as big bad invader Turkey who is occupying Cyprus!)

Better make that a double espresso now :roll:
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Postby Get Real! » Sat Mar 14, 2009 2:11 am

insan wrote:As long as u keep reading my posts u have a chance to enlarge ur little world with the beautiful truths and rescue ur soul being the captive of official lies and propaganda. :lol:

Says the forum octopus that keeps getting smashed on the rocks… :roll:
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Postby insan » Sat Mar 14, 2009 2:19 am

Oracle wrote:
insan wrote:
Oracle wrote:
insan wrote:
Oracle wrote:
insan wrote:
Oracle wrote:
insan wrote:http://www.famousmuslims.com/harunyahya.htm
http://www.harunyahya.com/

Adnan Oktar has been one of the most debated islamists of Turkey since mid 80s. He has his own islamic group called Adnancilar. Among his followers there r so many super models, actresses and actors. Wearing head scarf is not required for his followers. There r plenty of allegations abt him and a 3 years of prison sentence.

He is a very influential person and I guess his influential power arise from his wealthy followers. I have respect for his views but I'm against banning books, websites etc. If something constitutes illegality the person or the persons who comitted it; should be tried.


You haven't got a clue what he preaches. You just support him because you are a parrot-like imitating android, following the programme Turkey has written for you, little fantasist fairy Giga Nationalist tonsil-less milk-frother!


:lol: U pathetic, brain-washed, embryonic creature. U r living inside ur little world with the fear of facing truths that will destroy ur little world built on official lies and propaganda. :lol:


STATE DEPT MULLS "BOOK BURNING"

The Department of State is under growing pressure from the Central Intelligence Agency to destroy its inventory of an official history of U.S. relations with Greece during the 1960s and to replace it with a new, sanitized version.

Some 1500 copies of "Foreign Relations of the United States (FRUS), 1964-1968, volume XVI" on US policy towards Greece, Cyprus, Turkey have been printed. But they have been withheld from circulation because of last minute concerns raised by the CIA.

The sticking point appears to be a handful of documents that allude to CIA intervention in the electoral process in Greece some 35 years ago. CIA officials claim that release of such documents could upset current relations with Greece or even provide a pretext for terrorism.


http://www.fas.org/sgp/news/secrecy/2001/09/092101.html

2 years ago, an AHI spokesman in his letter to then the president of US, was asking more revisions in favour of Greece and against Turkey. :lol:

Sooner or later all truths will be revealed. Lies and propaganda cannot live forever. :D


Do you understand, even just every other word, of what you post :lol: :lol:

Thanks for posting the above! :lol:

I'll have a large Americano now, please .... 8)


Long before I've read that article above, I've told u that US has done everything possible to gain sympaty of Greeks just because during the cold-war era and until recent times they needed Greece to fix their jobs on Balkans but I added one more thing that mission has been completed in Balkans. No more freebies for Greece anymore. :lol:


Insan don't make sweeping generalisations and assumptions when you don't understand the quotes you are presenting. There's a good android barista ....
:wink:


There's nothing that I didn't understand. It's crystal clear. It was

something I've already known and emphisized for numerous times.

As long as u keep reading my posts u have a chance to enlarge ur

little world with the beautiful truths and rescue ur soul being the

captive of official lies and propaganda. :lol:


Oracle wrote:So you are telling us, the CIA burnt the evidence to electoral rigging, which they instigated ... and it's supposed to be saying what about Freedom of Speech in Greece?


A kind of it is related with freedom of speech in Greece. Besides CIA, it is obvious that some the then officials of Greece also know these truths but they needed to hide because of their national interests.. The "sanitized" CIA documents r not only related with the elections of Greece 35 years ago. As far as the historian of US library of congress was aware; the documents of 1964-68 were sanitized for the prupose of keeping Greece stable. If u carefully examine the CIA reprot I've posted u can easily understand even that CIA report was sanitized for the same purpose.

Oracle wrote:It's totally irrelevant as far as any wrongdoings by Greece; unless you want to use it as an example of the CIA being as bad as Turkey! Fine! :lol:


Here u once again revealed how little is ur world thus incapable to comprehend and analyze the events and relations in western alliance. Haven't u ever heard something called "relativity"? :lol: The "good" and the "bad" depends on ur viewpoint, in correlation of other related elements. :lol:

Oracle wrote:(BTW ... you forget the little rule: Greece is just another EU member and is not as relevant to these discussions as big bad invader Turkey who is occupying Cyprus!)


It's in ur little world. :lol: In my large world Greece has a great relevancy to these discussions. The biggest and worst invader is Greece that together with TPap draged so-called RoC into EU in dream of a "European" solution. One must be blind not to see the destructive behaviour behind this scheme. I can hear the voices of new clashes in our region... Time is approaching... :wink:

Better make that a double espresso now :roll:
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Postby insan » Sat Mar 14, 2009 2:23 am

Get Real! wrote:
insan wrote:As long as u keep reading my posts u have a chance to enlarge ur little world with the beautiful truths and rescue ur soul being the captive of official lies and propaganda. :lol:

Says the forum octopus that keeps getting smashed on the rocks… :roll:


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The common dogma [of fundamentalists] is fear of modern knowledge, inability to cope with the fast change in a scientific-technological society, and the real breakdown in apparent moral order in recent years.... That is why hate is the major fuel, fear is the cement of the movement, and superstitious ignorance is the best defense against the dangerous new knowledge. ... When you bring up arguments that cast serious doubts on their cherished beliefs you are not simply making a rhetorical point, you are threatening their whole Universe and their immortality. That provokes anger and quite frequently violence. ... Unfortunately you cannot reason with them and you even risk violence in confronting them. Their numbers will decline only when society stabilizes, and adapts to modernity.
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Postby paliometoxo » Sat Mar 14, 2009 2:25 am

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it wnt let me watch the video. it says its not available in my country domain..
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Postby bill cobbett » Sat Mar 14, 2009 2:44 am

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it wnt let me watch the video. it says its not available in my country domain..


Palio, it thinks you are in the Occupied North. Try moving a few yards to the south.
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Postby paliometoxo » Sat Mar 14, 2009 2:47 am

my domain is .cy and in the north its .tr how can it think i am in the north.. paliometoxo is about 20-25 minutes to the trnc boarders depending on traffic
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Postby insan » Sat Mar 14, 2009 2:50 am

paliometoxo wrote:my domain is .cy and in the north its .tr how can it think i am in the north.. paliometoxo is about 20-25 minutes to the trnc boarders depending on traffic


Don't u know that Bill C always looks for things to blame on Tr. :lol:
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