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Postby boulio » Fri Mar 13, 2009 6:49 pm

Move now for Cyprus
By Panayiotis Demetriou

THE ESTABLISHMENT of the European Commission’s Steering Group for Cyprus under President Manuel Barroso and Enlargement Commissioner Olli Rehn’s recent, visit to the divided island are the first, right steps to the right direction.

Actually, the involvement of the European Commission in the efforts for the solution of the Cyprus problem was long ago necessitated.

Apart from concrete, these steps are also timely and very important, as the negotiations between the leaders of the two communities are at an advanced stage.

Nonetheless, many other steps have to follow such as the appointment of an EU proximity observer and provision of technical assistance.

The Commission can rescue the negotiation process and should do so. It should stand by the UN and contribute politically and technically in solving this long standing problem.

Actually, all international players have to be actively involved in this challenge. Not to impose a solution but to assist the parties to find a balanced and fair solution. All have to move now so that to make this year ‘The Year of Cyprus’.

However, for the United Nations and the European Union, as well as for the important international player such as the US, UK and Russia to be constructive, they should move within a common policy-framework.

This should include the fact that the solution of the Cyprus problem must be agreed and mutually accepted by both the Greek Cypriot and Turkish Cypriot communities, so that it will be lasting and functional.

The solution should be the outcome of free negotiations between the leaders of the two communities conducted under the aegis of the Secretary General of the United Nations.

The tactful involvement of the European Union in the solution process is urgent and necessary. Firstly it will safeguard the application of the acquis communautaire all over the island and secondly it will secure the smooth functioning of the Republic as a bizonal, bicommunal federal state within the Union

The reunification of the island, the termination of military occupation resulting finally to demilitarisation and the end of colonisation should be the main objectives of the solution.

European federal models should be the basis for the constitutional structure of the state, safeguarding the political and economic unity, the single sovereignty and international personality, the single citizenship of the state and the equality of the constituent polities.

The functionability of the state should be a fundamental element of the solution and should be safeguarded by balanced constitutional mechanisms including an effective deadlock solving machinery.

European values and the human rights for all citizens, independently of their communal origin, including the rights of free movement, settlement and property, have in principle, to be embodied in the solution – agreement.

Any derogation necessitated by the prevailing abnormal conditions in the island at present, with regard to the application of citizens’ rights and in particular of the rights of settlement and property, has to be of temporary nature and in case of an unavoidable deprivation of properties reasonable compensation should be provided.

The Security Council of the United Nations and/or the European Union and/or NATO have to guarantee the implementation of the solution and the sovereignty, the territorial integrity and the single legal personality of Cyprus as well.

The existing Treaty of Guarantee, which proved the source of evil for Cyprus instead of being the insurance of stability, has to be revised and ultimately abolished.

This year is very opportune for the reunification of Cyprus. The leaders of the Greek Cypriot and Turkish Cypriot communities seem to have the political will to solve the Cyprus problem.

If the external factors and in particular the European Union give a hand, the European spirit of reconciliation can prevail. The main key of the solution, however, lies in Turkey, a candidate country for EU accession. Turkey has to be convinced to deliver that key to the Cypriots for a Cyprus solution, ‘by the Cypriots and for the Cypriots’.


n Panayiotis Demetriou is a Member of the European Parliament
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Re: Pretty good article

Postby YFred » Fri Mar 13, 2009 7:52 pm

boulio wrote:Move now for Cyprus
By Panayiotis Demetriou

THE ESTABLISHMENT of the European Commission’s Steering Group for Cyprus under President Manuel Barroso and Enlargement Commissioner Olli Rehn’s recent, visit to the divided island are the first, right steps to the right direction.

Actually, the involvement of the European Commission in the efforts for the solution of the Cyprus problem was long ago necessitated.

Apart from concrete, these steps are also timely and very important, as the negotiations between the leaders of the two communities are at an advanced stage.

Nonetheless, many other steps have to follow such as the appointment of an EU proximity observer and provision of technical assistance.

The Commission can rescue the negotiation process and should do so. It should stand by the UN and contribute politically and technically in solving this long standing problem.

Actually, all international players have to be actively involved in this challenge. Not to impose a solution but to assist the parties to find a balanced and fair solution. All have to move now so that to make this year ‘The Year of Cyprus’.

However, for the United Nations and the European Union, as well as for the important international player such as the US, UK and Russia to be constructive, they should move within a common policy-framework.

This should include the fact that the solution of the Cyprus problem must be agreed and mutually accepted by both the Greek Cypriot and Turkish Cypriot communities, so that it will be lasting and functional.

The solution should be the outcome of free negotiations between the leaders of the two communities conducted under the aegis of the Secretary General of the United Nations.

The tactful involvement of the European Union in the solution process is urgent and necessary. Firstly it will safeguard the application of the acquis communautaire all over the island and secondly it will secure the smooth functioning of the Republic as a bizonal, bicommunal federal state within the Union

The reunification of the island, the termination of military occupation resulting finally to demilitarisation and the end of colonisation should be the main objectives of the solution.

European federal models should be the basis for the constitutional structure of the state, safeguarding the political and economic unity, the single sovereignty and international personality, the single citizenship of the state and the equality of the constituent polities.

The functionability of the state should be a fundamental element of the solution and should be safeguarded by balanced constitutional mechanisms including an effective deadlock solving machinery.

European values and the human rights for all citizens, independently of their communal origin, including the rights of free movement, settlement and property, have in principle, to be embodied in the solution – agreement.

Any derogation necessitated by the prevailing abnormal conditions in the island at present, with regard to the application of citizens’ rights and in particular of the rights of settlement and property, has to be of temporary nature and in case of an unavoidable deprivation of properties reasonable compensation should be provided.

The Security Council of the United Nations and/or the European Union and/or NATO have to guarantee the implementation of the solution and the sovereignty, the territorial integrity and the single legal personality of Cyprus as well.

The existing Treaty of Guarantee, which proved the source of evil for Cyprus instead of being the insurance of stability, has to be revised and ultimately abolished.

This year is very opportune for the reunification of Cyprus. The leaders of the Greek Cypriot and Turkish Cypriot communities seem to have the political will to solve the Cyprus problem.

If the external factors and in particular the European Union give a hand, the European spirit of reconciliation can prevail. The main key of the solution, however, lies in Turkey, a candidate country for EU accession. Turkey has to be convinced to deliver that key to the Cypriots for a Cyprus solution, ‘by the Cypriots and for the Cypriots’.


n Panayiotis Demetriou is a Member of the European Parliament

What a shame. Almost there. Just change this paragraph from:

The Security Council of the United Nations and/or the European Union and/or NATO have to guarantee the implementation of the solution and the sovereignty, the territorial integrity and the single legal personality of Cyprus as well.

To:
The Security Council of the United Nations and/or the European Union and/or NATO and /or Turkey have to guarantee the implementation of the solution and the sovereignty, the territorial integrity and the single legal personality of Cyprus as well.

And it would be ok.
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Postby boulio » Fri Mar 13, 2009 7:55 pm

The existing Treaty of Guarantee, which proved the source of evil for Cyprus instead of being the insurance of stability, has to be revised and ultimately abolished


I think that answers your statement
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Postby YFred » Fri Mar 13, 2009 8:00 pm

boulio wrote:
The existing Treaty of Guarantee, which proved the source of evil for Cyprus instead of being the insurance of stability, has to be revised and ultimately abolished


I think that answers your statement

I always thought that the source of evel was probaply the club the writer of this article used be a memebr of - eoka-b

Just goes to show how wrong one can be.

At least now we know that the treaty was the source of all evel.

Perhaps its the air that we breath in or even the direction of the rotation of the earth.
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Postby boulio » Fri Mar 13, 2009 8:06 pm

no the writer is a member of the european parliment representing cyprus,even you fred :lol:

and the article is pretty balanced.
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Postby bill cobbett » Fri Mar 13, 2009 8:08 pm

Yes quite.

If I could choose one and only one red line (much as I'd insist on more of course) it would be RoT army post-settlement = 0 from day 0.
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Postby YFred » Fri Mar 13, 2009 8:16 pm

bill cobbett wrote:Yes quite.

If I could choose one and only one red line (much as I'd insist on more of course) it would be RoT army post-settlement = 0 from day 0.


Its ammazing, do we have no say in this matter. Are we that insignificant or is it that you don't want an agreement and you would like the TCs to vote down.

Charlie you are allowd to draw blue lines only, TCs can draw the red lines on account of their flags. I have a few extra blue crayons if you run out.
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Postby boulio » Fri Mar 13, 2009 8:38 pm

its simple fred a united cyprus will be a indepenant country correct?

Then why will another country have control over it?

I could understand a organization like UN/EU/NATO for a time period till things really settle down and the new state of affairs get going then for all we now cypritos both g/c and t/c will want to have there own defence force.
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Postby Viewpoint » Fri Mar 13, 2009 10:45 pm

boulio wrote:its simple fred a united cyprus will be a indepenant country correct?

Then why will another country have control over it?

I could understand a organization like UN/EU/NATO for a time period till things really settle down and the new state of affairs get going then for all we now cypritos both g/c and t/c will want to have there own defence force.


WHo will make sure both sides conform to their signature on a new agreement? The UN/EU/NATO have shown their incometence in moents f needs so TCs will never place their lives on the line seeing they will be outnumbered by hostile GCs.
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Postby boulio » Sat Mar 14, 2009 12:14 am

lets see on economic and political and judicial i guess it will fall to the EU.FOR timeframes and movoement of popultations to there new areas the UN.FOR policing and securing sea and air borders Nato.for removal of greek and turkish troops the UN.

DID I COVER EVERYTHING VP?
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