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[Bananiot]

What you posted sotos is misleading. The double black line is just a road that connects Dekelia to Ayios Nikolaos. The way you cut and pasted gives one the impression that north of the double black line is part of the TC constituent state. I am sure even a simpleton like yourself sotos, can understand this.

Big villages like Prasteio, Lysi, Assia, even Tympou and of course Zodia, not to mention Morphou, are given back and the majority of the GC refugees would return to their ancestral homes. As things stand now, not a single refugee has returned, not a single Turkish soldier went home and a few more tens of thousands of settlers have arrived in Cyprus since 2004. Worse, the honest TC's who placed their hopes on solution in order to get rid of Turkey, are now indicating that they do not trust us and are moving towards Eroglu and his party's nationalist stance. When these people were in the streets by the thousands to oust Denktash and bring hope to Cyprus, we stayed at home and held secret talks with Serdar Denktash in order to jeopardise the UN led initiative.

We committed a crime back then and no patriotic jargon can absolve us for selling Cyprus.

If you are interested in the real thing, here it is.

http://www.hri.org/docs/annan/AnnexI/Ma ... ntFull.pdf

[Sotos]

How about if we negotiate how much of Turkey Erdogan will give to us?

[Bananiot]

It is really my fault, for getting into an argument with a fool. Never again.

[Sotos]

It is the same map. The one I posted shows the final state borders and is page 46, the other one you post now shows the Phases of Adjustment. What Bulio wanted to know is about the city of Famagusta not about Prastio and Morfou. How is trying to mislead is you. He is asking about the city of Famagusta and instead of telling him that only half is returned you are telling us about Morfou Honest TCs? If they were honest they wouldn't occupy our homes. They are thieves. They just wanted to give us a bit of our land back so they could keep the rest for themselves and even take a lot in return so they could benefit themselves. Fuck them.

[Sotos]

It is really my fault, for getting into an argument with a fool. Never again.

You are such an idiot that you couldn't even open the link with the Annan plan and see the map. I even gave you the page: 46.

[Sotos]

And Bananiot never gave an answer to Bulio. Five pages after and he is still trying to cover the lies of the YES campaign that were trying to mislead people telling them that the whole Famagusta city was to be returned.

[boulio]

We committed a crime back then and no patriotic jargon can absolve us for selling Cyprus.

Greece committed the crime Bananiot and the junta in more detail,what about turkey?

concerning famagusta and the towns that were given back the could have been a lot better offer that really would not have upset the balance of the plan:limnia.engomi,agios syrigos,stylloi in famagusta
dorios,syrianohoroi at morphou,northwest of nicosia five towns in the Kuthera area and of course the four town in karpasia would have added another 30,000 refuges witth minimal territorial adjustement.

[Nikitas]

Tehre were two alternative territorial plans under the Annan plan, one gave back Karpasia one did not, and there were corresponding adjustments to the rest of the territory.

The important thing is that in BOTH MAPS the British base at Dhekelia abuts the Turkish constituent state and therefore cuts the Greek Cypriot state in two, effectively cutting off Famagusta from the rest of the GC state. To offset this the plan states some bullshit about flyovers and underpasses etc.

There were also a series of salients stretching south into the GC state, the most southerly one being Louroujina.

The coast line is apportioned totally unfairly considering that the coast is the major resource for tourism.

Morphou was not returned in its entirety, as is falsely stated above. Half of the Morphou area was to be returned and the coastal half retained in the TC state.

In Famagusta itself the line is drawn deep into Varosha, ceding a third of the fenced off area to the TC state and also keeping the GCs away from the old Nicosia road. In fact the Annan plan specifically said that the Nicoisa road was NOT to be deemed a boundary.

Finally the plan ceded 28 per cent of the land, with 50 per cent of the coastline to 18 per cent of the population.
In addition to the above the territory was not given back to the GCs on approval of the agreement but in three stages and during these it would be under the control of the TCs and the Turkish army.

The Turkish military in the interim agreements retained for themselves a crushing firepower advantage against the Greek forces on the island.

Anyone agreeing with this map is out of his mind.