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Postby Simon » Sun Mar 15, 2009 12:43 am

One thing that slightly confuses me is how much (if any) of Nicosia was going to be returned to the Greek Cypriots under the AP? I understand that at the moment, roughly 1/3 of Nicosia is under occupation.
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Postby kurupetos » Sun Mar 15, 2009 12:50 am

halil wrote:here is the map which has been on the referendum ..... it is in Greek for u !
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This is bollocks! The UKSBA is 3%. Then the GC fed. state would be 71.4-3 = 68.4%. Very "fair" solution plan indeed. :roll:
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Postby Paphitis » Sun Mar 15, 2009 4:59 am

halil wrote:here is the map which has been on the referendum ..... it is in Greek for u !
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What about Rizokarpaso? I thought that Karpaz was going to be within the Greek Administered zone!

No wonder the Anal Plan was rejected by a whopping 76%! :shock:
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Postby Bananiot » Sun Mar 15, 2009 1:01 pm

Compare your map idiot sotos, with the one on the actual AP or the one halil posted and tell us if it is the same. I am sure even a moron like sotos can tell the difference.

Rizokarpasso was there for the taking but bash patriot Papadopoulos made sure that we lost the opportunity.

Of course, suckers, we wil soon be talking partition with Eroglu and you will get to fulfill your dream eventually.
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Postby Bananiot » Sun Mar 15, 2009 1:06 pm

Below is the map sotos posted:

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Here is the real one, posted by halil:

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I take it that you can all see that the area above the double black line in sotos's map is part of the GC state. Of course, in sotos's map this is not only not obvious but it appears to be part of tha TC constituent state. In fact the area right up to Prasteio village (included) would have come under the administration of the GC state
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Postby Paphitis » Sun Mar 15, 2009 2:30 pm

Rizokarpasso was there for the taking but bash patriot Papadopoulos made sure that we lost the opportunity.


And how did he do this?
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Postby Sotos » Sun Mar 15, 2009 4:34 pm

Bananidiot, what I posted was the relevant crop of the real Annan plan map. Attachment 1a, page 46 of Annan plan. Here it is the whole page.

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I take it that you can all see that the area above the double black line in sotos's map is part of the GC state. Of course, in sotos's map this is not only not obvious but it appears to be part of tha TC constituent state. In fact the area right up to Prasteio village (included) would have come under the administration of the GC state


What Prasteio are you talking about you idiot? Boulio asked: "Can some one tell me when the annan plan was giving back amachostos,was it giving back part or all of the city to g/c administration,and if not how much of a percantge. " Can you not read? He is asking about the city not the district. If he was asking about Famagusta district I wouldn't tell him that a bit more than half was returned because the Turks would keep most of Famagusta district with the Annan plan!! My map clearly showed were the Famagusta city was cut in half and answered to him the question he asked!
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Postby halil » Sun Mar 15, 2009 4:41 pm

in the Annan plan there was 2 maps .Maps A and B .

on referendum map A was on the table .Here is the map B....

After so many discussions UN put the plan A .

İn those days Denktash and Papadopulos didn't sit together and negotiate the plan and maps to prove it better .They werejust put in their mind it is not good ..... both of them were after something else !

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Postby Sotos » Sun Mar 15, 2009 4:42 pm

Paphitis wrote:
Rizokarpasso was there for the taking but bash patriot Papadopoulos made sure that we lost the opportunity.


And how did he do this?


Bananiot is talking bullshit again :roll: There was nothing there for the taking. When did the Turks give us anything back without taking something even more important in return?
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Postby halil » Sun Mar 15, 2009 4:51 pm

Erdogan: Turkish And Greek Cypriots Should Not Discuss Annan Plan With Pre-judgements
Saturday, January 25 2003 @ 12:35 PM Central Standard Time


DAVOS - Justice and Development Party (AK Party) leader Recep Tayyip Erdogan said on Friday that Turkish and Greek Cypriots should not discuss Annan Plan with prejudgements and if sides sit at the negotiation table really for a solution, the issue will be solved. Erdogan held a press conference following his contacts in Davos. When asked whether there was a change in Cyprus Plan that was presented by United Nations Secretary General Kofi Annan, Erdogan said that there was no change.

Noting that they asked Annan the difference between Swiss and Belgian models when he explained only Swiss model. He said that Annan told his views on the issue and they explained Turkey's determined attitude concerning Cyprus question until now to Annan.

Erdogan said that they told Annan that Turkey's attitude on Cyprus question was a partnership state depending on two equal, sovereign founder states. He added that they also told Annan, concerning Cyprus Plan, that Turkey's view was a new Cyprus or a partnership state depending on two founder peoples. He said that there was not too much problem concerning the map issue, but there was a difficulty in the lines and the U.N. presented a 'B' map for it.

Noting that they discussed the 'B' map and they told Annan that 'B' map was inappropriate, Erdogan said that according to 'B' map, they proposed Karpaz region for south.
He added that a Etotal of nine different maps were presented in Copenhagen and Annan's Special Envoy to Cyprus Alvaro De Soto arrived in Istanbul with 16 maps which meant that if the issue was negotiated, different alternatives could be presented.

Erdogan said that the important thing was to find the issue negotiable, adding that while sitting at negotiation table, Turkish and Greek Cypriots should not have prejudgements. He said that if sides sit at the negotiation table for solution, the issue would be solved. He added that they considered the plan negotiable and were in favor of solution
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