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European Court of Justice Diary, Orams

How can we solve it? (keep it civilized)

Postby Viewpoint » Thu Mar 26, 2009 11:08 pm

bill cobbett wrote:
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bill cobbett wrote:Provisional Date has been set by the ECJ for the issuing of the judgment in the matter brought by Mr Apostolides.

Tuesday 28th April 09 30h


Bill, post it on Cyprus44 and then start up a business there selling brown trousers - you will make a fortune!


... and incontinence pants. :D


What will chnage in the daily lives of those living in the TRNC?
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Postby Jerry » Thu Mar 26, 2009 11:14 pm

Viewpoint wrote:
bill cobbett wrote:
Jerry wrote:
bill cobbett wrote:Provisional Date has been set by the ECJ for the issuing of the judgment in the matter brought by Mr Apostolides.

Tuesday 28th April 09 30h


Bill, post it on Cyprus44 and then start up a business there selling brown trousers - you will make a fortune!


... and incontinence pants. :D


What will chnage in the daily lives of those living in the TRNC?


Ask these people:-

http://www.cyprus44.com/forums/12951.asp
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Postby Kikapu » Thu Mar 26, 2009 11:22 pm

Viewpoint wrote:
bill cobbett wrote:
Jerry wrote:
bill cobbett wrote:Provisional Date has been set by the ECJ for the issuing of the judgment in the matter brought by Mr Apostolides.

Tuesday 28th April 09 30h


Bill, post it on Cyprus44 and then start up a business there selling brown trousers - you will make a fortune!


... and incontinence pants. :D


What will chnage in the daily lives of those living in the TRNC?


CopperLine wrote:Viewpoint
Following from what I said earlier, the daily lives of some TCs will be changed because they'll be out of house and home or, potentially, other assets claimed. Even if there are amicable settlements one might expect other TCs to give over parts of property or be required to vacate property.

Or, if one makes a less emphatic assumption TCs in contested properties may find it increasingly difficult to raise funds on now-dodgy collateral.

Or if GCs return to their properties in any numbers then the local economy, society, education might change the daily lives of TCs.

One may be reluctant to imagine these possibilities but they're nevertheless imaginable and plausible.

Moreover the Oram's ECJ case is not really about property it is primarily about the enforcement of judgements in other jurisidictions and therefore this has ramifications for TCs (and all other EU citizens) in all aspects of their lives which are based on the illegal appropriation of GC properties.
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Postby wyoming cowboy » Thu Mar 26, 2009 11:23 pm

Human rights you say, the Tc have the right to join the Republic of Cyprus, by living there and claim every single donum that they own with no questions asked, live under the umbrella of protection of the Republic of Cyprus and the European Union...how many more rights do you want...oh oh you want the right to steal Greek cyp properties too...The only reason we are having these conversations on these forums is that one perceived slight was dealt to the Tc back in the 60's and due to Turkey's strategic importance you have a voice, anywhere else in the world you and your arguments would be laughed out of town
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Jerry wrote:I'm not sure if Cherie Blair (aka letterbox mouth) is going to be much help to Orams or "trnc" in future, in fact she may sue them herself. :(

From Cyprus PIO

The breakaway regime has reportedly given dud cheques to the lawyers of the Orams couple; Hasan Vahib denies the information noting that the Orams have sponsors
Under the title Is there a lawyers crisis in the Orams case? Turkish Cypriot daily Star Kibris newspaper (19.03.09) reports that according to information published in the Turkish Haber Turk newspaper on 15 March 2009 (page 12) under the title Partner swindle to Cherie Blair who defends the TRNC, Mrs Cherie Blair and her partner Bitu Bhalla, who defend the Orams couple in the lawsuit filed by the Greek Cypriot refugee Meletis Apostolides from Lapithos, have not received the amount of £270 thousand sent by the TRNC in return of their services.
Star Kibris publishes statements made by lawyer Hasan Vahib, who described the above information as groundless. He said: The TRNC is not paying the money of the Orams case. They have sponsors. Anyway, the case is continuing. We shall launch legal proceedings regarding the newspaper which published these allegations.
Vahib said that Mrs Blair is still defending the Orams couple, that no change was made in the team and that they expect a decision in their favor in April by the European Court of Justice.
Star Kibris reports that the news published in the Haber Turk newspaper was signed by Daphne Barak, who argued that the issue started when Blair and Bitu received a letter from the TRNC government that the payment was made some months ago and added: The TRNC government, noting that the amount of £270 thousand was paid some months ago, wants confirmation that the money reached its destination. After that, Bitu Bhalla telephons Hasan Vahib and asks what happened with the money.
The Turkish newspaper noted also that Mr Vahib confirmed the payment and said that £120 thousand was sent to Bhalla and £150 thousand to Blair, but alleged that the cheques were proved to be dud cheques
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http://www.hri.org/news/cyprus/tcpr/200 ... pr.html#01

Your comment on Mrs Blair is very unfair. She is not only a decent Lawyer but she is a decent human being too, unlike her husband.


You are not serious are you? The woman is supposed to be a lawyer who specialises in HUMAN RIGHTS, and yet she defends thieves like Orams against litigants who have had their human rights infringed.

Its not as simple as that and you know it. Perhaps she is defending the TCs human rights, oohps I forgot, we are not allowed that, sorry.
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Postby Oracle » Thu Mar 26, 2009 11:27 pm

Viewpoint wrote:
bill cobbett wrote:
Jerry wrote:
bill cobbett wrote:Provisional Date has been set by the ECJ for the issuing of the judgment in the matter brought by Mr Apostolides.

Tuesday 28th April 09 30h


Bill, post it on Cyprus44 and then start up a business there selling brown trousers - you will make a fortune!


... and incontinence pants. :D


What will chnage in the daily lives of those living in the TRNC?


Nothing .... they are insensitive clots!

... the world will carry on spinning around without them 8)
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Postby wyoming cowboy » Fri Mar 27, 2009 12:17 am

Cyprus44 is such a joke, if you talk about the legitimacy of the so called"trnc", you will be banned, the forums are filed with a bunch of old Brits talking about how they are worried about losing their propertie....and keep praying for partition.
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bill cobbett wrote:Provisional Date has been set by the ECJ for the issuing of the judgment in the matter brought by Mr Apostolides.

Tuesday 28th April 09 30h


Bill, post it on Cyprus44 and then start up a business there selling brown trousers - you will make a fortune!
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Postby bill cobbett » Fri Mar 27, 2009 12:27 am

wyoming cowboy wrote:Cyprus44 is such a joke, if you talk about the legitimacy of the so called"trnc", you will be banned, the forums are filed with a bunch of old Brits talking about how they are worried about losing their propertie....and keep praying for partition.
Jerry wrote:
bill cobbett wrote:Provisional Date has been set by the ECJ for the issuing of the judgment in the matter brought by Mr Apostolides.

Tuesday 28th April 09 30h


Bill, post it on Cyprus44 and then start up a business there selling brown trousers - you will make a fortune!


Outrageous in this CY LandGrabbersForum how some wish the O's luck!

You surely can't get any more morally bankrupt than these land thieving scum, imho.
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