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[Oracle]

Ataturk spoke of independence, modernisation and democracy.

And here are the TCs, laying siege in an unrecognised territory belonging to others, lagging behind. Dependent on Turkey. As undemocratic as could be.

Have the TC's lived up to Mustafa Kemal Ataturk's legacy, or are they a let down, dependent and helpless? Hopeless Turks, yet traitorous Cypriots.

Certainly Turkey has lived up to Ataturk's ideals:

We shall make the expansion and rise of Turkish culture in every era, the mainstay of the Republic.

Mustafa Kemal Ataturk

But what of the TCs?

Which of his aspirations have they lived up to? Where have they let him down?

[miltiades]

Who is MKA , O . One of your heroes no doubt !
Not a Charlie is he ?

[YFred]

Who is MKA , O . One of your heroes no doubt !
Not a Charlie is he ?

I am sure he is Milt. He was born in Selonika. He is True Macedonian. What is it about Mackedonia? First Alexander the Great and then MKA. Charlie boy GR will be pleased about this thread.
Gasha Loads.

[shahmaran]

Ataturk spoke of independence, modernisation and democracy.

And here are the TCs, laying siege in an unrecognised territory belonging to others, lagging behind. Dependent on Turkey. As undemocratic as could be.

Have the TC's lived up to Mustafa Kemal Ataturk's legacy, or are they a let down, dependent and helpless? Hopeless Turks, yet traitorous Cypriots.

Certainly Turkey has lived up to Ataturk's ideals:

We shall make the expansion and rise of Turkish culture in every era, the mainstay of the Republic.

Mustafa Kemal Ataturk

But what of the TCs?

Which of his aspirations have they lived up to? Where have they let him down?

You would probably find that Atatürk is more of a "thing" for Turkey.

Nice effort in raising another pointless argument though.

If Socrates was around, he would probably think you are a disgrace

[miltiades]

Ataturk spoke of independence, modernisation and democracy.

And here are the TCs, laying siege in an unrecognised territory belonging to others, lagging behind. Dependent on Turkey. As undemocratic as could be.

Have the TC's lived up to Mustafa Kemal Ataturk's legacy, or are they a let down, dependent and helpless? Hopeless Turks, yet traitorous Cypriots.

Certainly Turkey has lived up to Ataturk's ideals:

We shall make the expansion and rise of Turkish culture in every era, the mainstay of the Republic.

Mustafa Kemal Ataturk

But what of the TCs?

Which of his aspirations have they lived up to? Where have they let him down?

You would probably find that Atatürk is more of a "thing" for Turkey.

Nice effort in raising another pointless argument though.

If Socrates was around, he would probably think you are a disgrace

But I'm around dear boy , and you have correctly assessed her !!

[insan]

Ataturk spoke of independence, modernisation and democracy.

And here are the TCs, laying siege in an unrecognised territory belonging to others, lagging behind. Dependent on Turkey. As undemocratic as could be.

Have the TC's lived up to Mustafa Kemal Ataturk's legacy, or are they a let down, dependent and helpless? Hopeless Turks, yet traitorous Cypriots.

Certainly Turkey has lived up to Ataturk's ideals:

We shall make the expansion and rise of Turkish culture in every era, the mainstay of the Republic.

Mustafa Kemal Ataturk

But what of the TCs?

Which of his aspirations have they lived up to? Where have they let him down?

Oracle, u have already known some 70% of our history on this Island. The essentials of the problem between TC and GCs have nothing directly to do with Ataturk and his principles. As I numerous times emphisized, when the very first signs of conflict verbally unfolded between TCs and GCs the date was 1889. Ataturk was 8 years old yet. Kutchuk and Denktash weren't born yet.

Hellenes struggled for their own cause, Turks struggled for their own cause. Hellene's cause was either Enosis or majority rule; Turk's cause was either political equality of 2 communities or Taksim.

The current situation is the consequence of this struggle between Hellene's and Turks. Had TC demand political equality of 2 communities been accepted by Hellenes; the conflict would have been resolved long ago and Cyprus would have been 1; ruled by 2 communities.

As it is clearly seen only one option was left us to choose and that is Taksim. Our priority has always been the political equality of 2 communities however Hellenes pushed us to Taksim and it happened. How much Hellenes pressurized TCs for Taksim that much TCs got closer to permenant Taksim. Keep pressurizing TCs with the "forces and weapons" of ur national cause and watch how Taksim will become permenant.

[Oracle]

You would probably find that Atatürk is more of a "thing" for Turkey.

Nice effort in raising another pointless argument though.

If Socrates was around, he would probably think you are a disgrace

Seems Turkey has a "thing" for Cyprus ...

No doubt you believe you are behaving in the best Socratic tradition!

[shahmaran]

You would probably find that Atatürk is more of a "thing" for Turkey.

Nice effort in raising another pointless argument though.

If Socrates was around, he would probably think you are a disgrace

Seems Turkey has a "thing" for Cyprus ...

No doubt you believe you are behaving in the best Socratic tradition!

I don't think I don't do so, do I?.

Turkey has a "thing" for Cyprus because you have a "thing" for us

[Oracle]

You would probably find that Atatürk is more of a "thing" for Turkey.

Nice effort in raising another pointless argument though.

If Socrates was around, he would probably think you are a disgrace

Seems Turkey has a "thing" for Cyprus ...

No doubt you believe you are behaving in the best Socratic tradition!

I don't think I don't do so, do I?.

Turkey has a "thing" for Cyprus because you have a "thing" for us

I "thing" not!

[shahmaran]

Oh come on, you know you do!

*kiss*