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Would Ataturk be Ashamed of the TCs?

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Postby insan » Fri Mar 13, 2009 4:55 am

Get Real! wrote:What “resistance fighters” and baloney you stupid fuck, and whoever said GR will ever allow you to jump around like a sharmutta from one stupidity to the next?

Now answer the question goofball…

insan wrote:there was a high probability of an USSR led eastern block intervention.


What exactly is an "intervention" if it's not akin to Turkey's military invasion of 1974, which YOU characterize as "intervention" Einstein?


It's a waste of time to debate anything with illiterates like u. U don't even know who were called as resitance fighters in Cyprus. :lol: U r doomed to be a poor embryonic ape lack of knowledge but filled with propaganda. :lol:
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Postby Get Real! » Fri Mar 13, 2009 5:04 am

insan wrote:
Get Real! wrote:What “resistance fighters” and baloney you stupid fuck, and whoever said GR will ever allow you to jump around like a sharmutta from one stupidity to the next?

Now answer the question goofball…

insan wrote:there was a high probability of an USSR led eastern block intervention.


What exactly is an "intervention" if it's not akin to Turkey's military invasion of 1974, which YOU characterize as "intervention" Einstein?


It's a waste of time to debate anything with illiterates like u. U don't even know who were called as resitance fighters in Cyprus. :lol: U r doomed to be a poor embryonic ape lack of knowledge but filled with propaganda. :lol:

When you take on GR always ensure you’ve got your facts and figures right or you’ll end up roasted like tonight. Now get out of my sight you two-cent shish-kebab!
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Postby insan » Fri Mar 13, 2009 5:08 am

Get Real! wrote:
insan wrote:
Get Real! wrote:What “resistance fighters” and baloney you stupid fuck, and whoever said GR will ever allow you to jump around like a sharmutta from one stupidity to the next?

Now answer the question goofball…

insan wrote:there was a high probability of an USSR led eastern block intervention.


What exactly is an "intervention" if it's not akin to Turkey's military invasion of 1974, which YOU characterize as "intervention" Einstein?


It's a waste of time to debate anything with illiterates like u. U don't even know who were called as resitance fighters in Cyprus. :lol: U r doomed to be a poor embryonic ape lack of knowledge but filled with propaganda. :lol:

When you take on GR always ensure you’ve got your facts and figures right or you’ll end up roasted like tonight. Now get out of my sight you two-cent shish-kebab!

:lol: In your dreams. I'm well aware of how truths shocks and hurts u. :lol: There's no way out for u, embryonic ape. :lol:
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Postby insan » Fri Mar 13, 2009 5:10 am

Get Real! wrote:
insan wrote:
Get Real! wrote:What “resistance fighters” and baloney you stupid fuck, and whoever said GR will ever allow you to jump around like a sharmutta from one stupidity to the next?

Now answer the question goofball…

insan wrote:there was a high probability of an USSR led eastern block intervention.


What exactly is an "intervention" if it's not akin to Turkey's military invasion of 1974, which YOU characterize as "intervention" Einstein?


It's a waste of time to debate anything with illiterates like u. U don't even know who were called as resitance fighters in Cyprus. :lol: U r doomed to be a poor embryonic ape lack of knowledge but filled with propaganda. :lol:

When you take on GR always ensure you’ve got your facts and figures right or you’ll end up roasted like tonight. Now get out of my sight you two-cent shish-kebab!


Go read 400 pages of CIA report and check the intervention timeline. U lazy illiterate plonker, embryonic ape. :lol:
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Re: Would Ataturk be Ashamed of the TCs?

Postby denizaksulu » Fri Mar 13, 2009 9:54 am

Oracle wrote:Ataturk spoke of independence, modernisation and democracy.

And here are the TCs, laying siege in an unrecognised territory belonging to others, lagging behind. Dependent on Turkey. As undemocratic as could be.

Have the TC's lived up to Mustafa Kemal Ataturk's legacy, or are they a let down, dependent and helpless? Hopeless Turks, yet traitorous Cypriots.

Certainly Turkey has lived up to Ataturk's ideals:

We shall make the expansion and rise of Turkish culture in every era, the mainstay of the Republic.

Mustafa Kemal Ataturk


But what of the TCs?

Which of his aspirations have they lived up to? Where have they let him down?



As the founder of the state of the ROT and a Military tactician, I admire him. But as straight thinking Cypriots, I often wonder whether MKA had let the Turkish Cypriots down by letting go of Cyprus at Lausanne. As far as we were concerned , we did not exist. So the question should be the other way round. Are TC's disappointed in MKA?
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Postby denizaksulu » Fri Mar 13, 2009 9:57 am

shahmaran wrote:Oh come on, you know you do!

*kiss* ;)



Why is it that more and more TC's ar4e falling for the 'charms' of Oracle? :lol:
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Postby silentmoon » Fri Mar 13, 2009 10:12 am

Ataturk made very good things for sure but pleas eleave him in peace whereever he is now and lets cocentrate on the case thatw e have on the island now lets have a solution and have it soon...
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Postby denizaksulu » Fri Mar 13, 2009 10:17 am

Welcome to the forum Silent Moon. Your comments will be welcome ofcourse. :lol:
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Re: Would Ataturk be Ashamed of the TCs?

Postby Oracle » Fri Mar 13, 2009 11:07 am

denizaksulu wrote:
Oracle wrote:Ataturk spoke of independence, modernisation and democracy.

And here are the TCs, laying siege in an unrecognised territory belonging to others, lagging behind. Dependent on Turkey. As undemocratic as could be.

Have the TC's lived up to Mustafa Kemal Ataturk's legacy, or are they a let down, dependent and helpless? Hopeless Turks, yet traitorous Cypriots.

Certainly Turkey has lived up to Ataturk's ideals:

We shall make the expansion and rise of Turkish culture in every era, the mainstay of the Republic.

Mustafa Kemal Ataturk


But what of the TCs?

Which of his aspirations have they lived up to? Where have they let him down?



As the founder of the state of the ROT and a Military tactician, I admire him. But as straight thinking Cypriots, I often wonder whether MKA had let the Turkish Cypriots down by letting go of Cyprus at Lausanne. As far as we were concerned , we did not exist. So the question should be the other way round. Are TC's disappointed in MKA?


As you said, he was a great Military Tactician!

Maybe he foresaw what a burden the TCs would be on Turkey; a blight on its image, and a thorn in Turkey's ultimate Europeanisation plans ...

For the sake of Turkey, expediency and Justification; he did the right thing. No?
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Re: Would Ataturk be Ashamed of the TCs?

Postby denizaksulu » Fri Mar 13, 2009 11:56 am

Oracle wrote:
denizaksulu wrote:
Oracle wrote:Ataturk spoke of independence, modernisation and democracy.

And here are the TCs, laying siege in an unrecognised territory belonging to others, lagging behind. Dependent on Turkey. As undemocratic as could be.

Have the TC's lived up to Mustafa Kemal Ataturk's legacy, or are they a let down, dependent and helpless? Hopeless Turks, yet traitorous Cypriots.

Certainly Turkey has lived up to Ataturk's ideals:

We shall make the expansion and rise of Turkish culture in every era, the mainstay of the Republic.

Mustafa Kemal Ataturk


But what of the TCs?

Which of his aspirations have they lived up to? Where have they let him down?



As the founder of the state of the ROT and a Military tactician, I admire him. But as straight thinking Cypriots, I often wonder whether MKA had let the Turkish Cypriots down by letting go of Cyprus at Lausanne. As far as we were concerned , we did not exist. So the question should be the other way round. Are TC's disappointed in MKA?


As you said, he was a great Military Tactician!

Maybe he foresaw what a burden the TCs would be on Turkey; a blight on its image, and a thorn in Turkey's ultimate Europeanisation plans ...

For the sake of Turkey, expediency and Justification; he did the right thing. No?



Perhaps he did what was right at the time. His nation was a 'tired ' nation. Fighting endless wars since the Balkan wars and the great Russian bear had taken its toll on the native 'Turks'.
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