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Postby insan » Fri Mar 13, 2009 3:50 am

Get Real! wrote:
insan wrote:Actually, shahmaran; had Turkey not intervened, there was a high probability of an USSR led eastern block intervention. Just a few months before the coup Makarios set off to buy weapons and ammunition by visiting some eastern block countries. Had some eatern block countries together with USSR attempted to intervene the coupists in Cyprus; most probably we would have faced a World War over Cyprus and I guess none of the Cypriots survived.

Most probably Cyprus would have been partitioned between Eastern Block and Western Block. :lol:

That's the biggest load of horseshit I've ever heard... :lol:

The USSR did not invade anyone to spread communism, but it was decided between them and the US just after WWII that Korea, Vietnam, Europe, and some other places, would be carved up since their ideologies did not agree. There was never an issue of the USSR invading Cyprus.

As for the weapons purchased, they were from Czechoslovakia alone.


Who mentioned abt a USSR invasion? As usual u r confusing intervention with invasion. Moreover u r ignoring the the relations AKEL had with socialist countries, especially USSR. Furthermore u ignorantly skipped the fact that USSR had interests in Cyprus during the cold-war era.
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Postby boulio » Fri Mar 13, 2009 4:00 am

the USSR WOULD NEVER INTERVENE OR INVADE,as long as the british bases were on the island and no access to the med for a full intervention.
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Postby Get Real! » Fri Mar 13, 2009 4:03 am

insan wrote:
Get Real! wrote:
insan wrote:Actually, shahmaran; had Turkey not intervened, there was a high probability of an USSR led eastern block intervention. Just a few months before the coup Makarios set off to buy weapons and ammunition by visiting some eastern block countries. Had some eatern block countries together with USSR attempted to intervene the coupists in Cyprus; most probably we would have faced a World War over Cyprus and I guess none of the Cypriots survived.

Most probably Cyprus would have been partitioned between Eastern Block and Western Block. :lol:

That's the biggest load of horseshit I've ever heard... :lol:

The USSR did not invade anyone to spread communism, but it was decided between them and the US just after WWII that Korea, Vietnam, Europe, and some other places, would be carved up since their ideologies did not agree. There was never an issue of the USSR invading Cyprus.

As for the weapons purchased, they were from Czechoslovakia alone.

Who mentioned abt a USSR invasion? As usual u r confusing intervention with invasion. Moreover u r ignoring the the relations AKEL had with socialist countries, especially USSR. Furthermore u ignorantly skipped the fact that USSR had interests in Cyprus during the cold-war era.

I had no idea there was a difference between “invasion” and “intervention” when speaking to a Turkish Cypriot because in July 1974, Turkey invaded Cyprus militarily yet most Turkish Cypriots including yourself, refer to that event as the “Turkish intervention” so why are you getting your knickers in a twist all of a sudden now?

So what did happen in July 1974? Make your mind up Einstein…
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Postby insan » Fri Mar 13, 2009 4:12 am

Get Real! wrote:
insan wrote:
Get Real! wrote:
insan wrote:Actually, shahmaran; had Turkey not intervened, there was a high probability of an USSR led eastern block intervention. Just a few months before the coup Makarios set off to buy weapons and ammunition by visiting some eastern block countries. Had some eatern block countries together with USSR attempted to intervene the coupists in Cyprus; most probably we would have faced a World War over Cyprus and I guess none of the Cypriots survived.

Most probably Cyprus would have been partitioned between Eastern Block and Western Block. :lol:

That's the biggest load of horseshit I've ever heard... :lol:

The USSR did not invade anyone to spread communism, but it was decided between them and the US just after WWII that Korea, Vietnam, Europe, and some other places, would be carved up since their ideologies did not agree. There was never an issue of the USSR invading Cyprus.

As for the weapons purchased, they were from Czechoslovakia alone.

Who mentioned abt a USSR invasion? As usual u r confusing intervention with invasion. Moreover u r ignoring the the relations AKEL had with socialist countries, especially USSR. Furthermore u ignorantly skipped the fact that USSR had interests in Cyprus during the cold-war era.

I had no idea there was a difference between “invasion” and “intervention” when speaking to a Turkish Cypriot because in July 1974, Turkey invaded Cyprus militarily yet most Turkish Cypriots including yourself, refer to that event as the “Turkish intervention” so why are you getting your knickers in a twist all of a sudden now?

So what did happen in July 1974? Make your mind up Einstein…


It was an intervention but the fierce confrontation of 40.000 of Hellenic forces against Turkis forces caused a mutual combat. Continuing actions of irregulars of EOKA-B and hostile environment led defacto-partition of Cyprus.
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Postby insan » Fri Mar 13, 2009 4:14 am

boulio wrote:the USSR WOULD NEVER INTERVENE OR INVADE,as long as the british bases were on the island and no access to the med for a full intervention.


Read 400 pages of CIA report which gives all the intimate details of the events of 1973-76, besides read the Bulgarian reports regarding the situation in Cyprus from March 1974 and onwards then reconsider ur baseless notions.
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Postby Get Real! » Fri Mar 13, 2009 4:17 am

insan wrote:
Get Real! wrote:
insan wrote:
Get Real! wrote:
insan wrote:Actually, shahmaran; had Turkey not intervened, there was a high probability of an USSR led eastern block intervention. Just a few months before the coup Makarios set off to buy weapons and ammunition by visiting some eastern block countries. Had some eatern block countries together with USSR attempted to intervene the coupists in Cyprus; most probably we would have faced a World War over Cyprus and I guess none of the Cypriots survived.

Most probably Cyprus would have been partitioned between Eastern Block and Western Block. :lol:

That's the biggest load of horseshit I've ever heard... :lol:

The USSR did not invade anyone to spread communism, but it was decided between them and the US just after WWII that Korea, Vietnam, Europe, and some other places, would be carved up since their ideologies did not agree. There was never an issue of the USSR invading Cyprus.

As for the weapons purchased, they were from Czechoslovakia alone.

Who mentioned abt a USSR invasion? As usual u r confusing intervention with invasion. Moreover u r ignoring the the relations AKEL had with socialist countries, especially USSR. Furthermore u ignorantly skipped the fact that USSR had interests in Cyprus during the cold-war era.

I had no idea there was a difference between “invasion” and “intervention” when speaking to a Turkish Cypriot because in July 1974, Turkey invaded Cyprus militarily yet most Turkish Cypriots including yourself, refer to that event as the “Turkish intervention” so why are you getting your knickers in a twist all of a sudden now?

So what did happen in July 1974? Make your mind up Einstein…


It was an intervention...

Unfortunately, your knickers is still in a twist because you don't have the luxury of deciding the meaning of a word based on your interests so stop making a jerk of yourself! :lol:

but the fierce confrontation of 40.000 of Hellenic forces against Turkis forces caused a mutual combat. Continuing actions of irregulars of EOKA-B and hostile environment led defacto-partition of Cyprus.

Manufactured rubbish as per usual! :lol:

GET OFF the CyProb clown!
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Postby insan » Fri Mar 13, 2009 4:19 am

Get Real! wrote:
insan wrote:
Get Real! wrote:
insan wrote:
Get Real! wrote:
insan wrote:Actually, shahmaran; had Turkey not intervened, there was a high probability of an USSR led eastern block intervention. Just a few months before the coup Makarios set off to buy weapons and ammunition by visiting some eastern block countries. Had some eatern block countries together with USSR attempted to intervene the coupists in Cyprus; most probably we would have faced a World War over Cyprus and I guess none of the Cypriots survived.

Most probably Cyprus would have been partitioned between Eastern Block and Western Block. :lol:

That's the biggest load of horseshit I've ever heard... :lol:

The USSR did not invade anyone to spread communism, but it was decided between them and the US just after WWII that Korea, Vietnam, Europe, and some other places, would be carved up since their ideologies did not agree. There was never an issue of the USSR invading Cyprus.

As for the weapons purchased, they were from Czechoslovakia alone.

Who mentioned abt a USSR invasion? As usual u r confusing intervention with invasion. Moreover u r ignoring the the relations AKEL had with socialist countries, especially USSR. Furthermore u ignorantly skipped the fact that USSR had interests in Cyprus during the cold-war era.

I had no idea there was a difference between “invasion” and “intervention” when speaking to a Turkish Cypriot because in July 1974, Turkey invaded Cyprus militarily yet most Turkish Cypriots including yourself, refer to that event as the “Turkish intervention” so why are you getting your knickers in a twist all of a sudden now?

So what did happen in July 1974? Make your mind up Einstein…


It was an intervention...

Unfortunately, your knickers is still in a twist because you don't have the luxury of deciding the meaning of a word based on your interests so stop making a jerk of yourself! :lol:

but the fierce confrontation of 40.000 of Hellenic forces against Turkis forces caused a mutual combat. Continuing actions of irregulars of EOKA-B and hostile environment led defacto-partition of Cyprus.

Manufactured rubbish as per usual! :lol:

GET OFF the CyProb clown!


U get off the Cyprob, U galimatias maker illiterrate embryonic ape. :lol: :lol:
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Postby Get Real! » Fri Mar 13, 2009 4:24 am

insan wrote:U get off the Cyprob, U galimatias maker illiterrate embryonic ape. :lol: :lol:

You just love getting smashed on the rocks like an Octopus all the time! :roll: Have you no shame?
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Postby insan » Fri Mar 13, 2009 4:28 am

Get Real! wrote:
insan wrote:U get off the Cyprob, U galimatias maker illiterrate embryonic ape. :lol: :lol:

You just love getting smashed on the rocks like an Octopus all the time! :roll: Have you no shame?


[From The Times (London), Dec. 6, 1974]
EoKA Ready To Accept Makarios Return to Restricted Church Role

(From Paul Martin)

Nicosia, Dec. 5. — The Eoka guerrilla movement has declared that it will accept the return of Archbishop Makarios if he gives up the presidency and restricts himself to church affairs. The Eoka declaration came as thousands of Greek Cypriots began to arrive in the capital to hear the archbishop speak on his return from the exile forced upon him by the July coup.

There is a growing air of excitement among the archbishop's supporters as the hour of his return approaches. Originally he was to have flown in from Athens on Friday. However, at the last minute, it was announced by his supporters that "technical reasons" had caused a delay of 24 hours.

The Eoka movement, which remains bitterly opposed to the archbishop, made its stand clear in a 10-point manifesto circulated in Nicosia overnight. Although it takes a strong line against the archbishop it is the first time it has agreed to his return.

Calling for national unity among Greek Cypriots, the manifesto sets out the conditions under which the Eoka movement would accept his return. It accused the archbishop of deliberately ignoring advice from "friends and foes" about the possible adverse consequences of his decision.



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"Makarios has declared that on his return he will succeed in securing a return of Greek CjqDriot refugees to their homes", the manifesto said. He also declared that he would lead the struggle to end the Turkish occupation. We believe that both are illusions. However, we shall not block his way in order to prove once more that he conscientiously deceives his people."

The manifesto declared that the task facing the Greek Cypriot people allowed "room for everybody to take part in the national struggle". However, it added: "It is necessary for him to realize that his presence in the political arena will result in division and conflict." This rendered his "speedy withdrawal from politics" a necessity.

It went on to reiterate the Eoka stand that any attempt to reestablish the
Makarios order, ousted by the coup, would result in continued confhct in the Greek Cypriot community, "If ^Makarios does not heed this then his return will constitute an epilogue to the Cyprus tragedy."

Opening the way for the Archbishop's return as head of the Cyprus church, the manifesto said: If he comes to give a solution to the ecclesiastical problem
in accordance with the church heirarchy, then we shall contribute. The solution of the chiirch problem is a basic ingredient for national unitj'^ among the Oreek Cypriots. It is a question of great urgency."

The manifesto then went on to warn the Archbishop that even if he does
restrict himself to the church, he must heed the factions inside the church who opposed him. "If Makarios does not take a responsible hue he will find us a strong and unyielding opponent."

The Eoka movement, the manifesto added, did not try to prevent Archbishop Makarios's return by using force. "However the national centre must know that if Makarios is to repeat the recent past, Cyprus viH inevitably be led to a bloody civil strife."



Come on shameless, embryonic ape... Show ya daddy how intimate knowledge u have and answer this question: :lol:


Why the resistence fighters couldn't stop and ward off all those EOKA-B guerillas with their backers; neither before 1974, nor during the coup or even till 1976?
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Postby Get Real! » Fri Mar 13, 2009 4:40 am

What “resistance fighters” and baloney you stupid fuck, and whoever said GR will ever allow you to jump around like a sharmutta from one stupidity to the next?

Now answer the question goofball…

insan wrote:there was a high probability of an USSR led eastern block intervention.


What exactly is an "intervention" if it's not akin to Turkey's military invasion of 1974, which YOU characterize as "intervention" Einstein?
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