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[miltiades]

[It's rather hypocritical/ignorant to only see the cruelty before your very eyes and pretend nothing untoward happens behind closed doors and even in "institutionalised" regulated set-ups ... like battery farms, which are a specialty in the UK (because of the burgeoning pet population). A lot of those chickens end up, after a short, sad, painful existence, as pet food! Yet it's apparently acceptable because people don't have to see it!

No relevance to animal cruelty in Cyprus whatsoever , its like comparing hooking a fish with poisoning cats and dogs. Lets be honest about it , we have some way to go in Cyprus as far as pets and working animals welfare is concerned. We covered this subject numerous times in the past the fact that cruelty also exists in the UK is no excuse . We have to constantly strive to improve our animal welfare .

And you have a long way to go before you stop inflicting pain on the rest of us, with your unjust "observations" from the bottom of a wine glass!

The scale of farming in the UK is unprecedented for cruelty and disease. Conveyor belt production of cows, pigs, hens and sheep, pumped up with antibiotics, squeezed into minuscule crates, exported across Europe for days with minimal comforts ... not to mention the recurring major diseases every few years, be it BSE, TB, Foot and Mouth or Blue-Tongue.

Are you really telling me that is comparable to the type of farming which occurs in Cyprus?

Poisoning around rural areas is equivalent in Cyprus to your yardstick, the UK! ... Birds of Prey are frequently poisoned in Wales & Scotland, so too any cats and dogs that happen to pick up the bait. Prove to me they are not, but not based on what is said by some disillusioned, broke, pending-divorcee, who starts a thread to bad-mouth Cyprus in the most stereotypical manner imaginable, encouraged by ignorant people like you who think they gain kudos to jump on the bandwagon and stick another oar in to Cyprus, so that you can feel superior having "UK pet" values!

Listen stupid. We are talking about animal cruelty in Cyprus , by animals we mean cats dogs donkeys horses and other domestic ANIMALS. WE ARE NOT TALKING ABOUT A BLOODY CHICKEN , A MOUSE , A FLEE OR A MOSQUITO.
Animal cruelty that the ignorant sods inflict on pets and working animals . Stop your bullshit on animal farming , battery hens and the rest. The subject here was that this woman's cats had been poisoned. I once saw a guy in Ayios Athanasis , the old village , shooting at cats with his air riffle , on another occasion a guy collected 3 kittens put them in a bag laden with stones and chucked them in the sea. This is what we are talking about , perfectly normal humans in every respect , family people , industrious and honourable yet they consider the lives of cats and dogs as totaly worthless. This is what we are talking about.
To be objective one has to be impartial not jump down someones throat when an adverse comment is made against Cyprus.

ps. My poison is wine , whats yours witches brew !!

[Oracle]

[It's rather hypocritical/ignorant to only see the cruelty before your very eyes and pretend nothing untoward happens behind closed doors and even in "institutionalised" regulated set-ups ... like battery farms, which are a specialty in the UK (because of the burgeoning pet population). A lot of those chickens end up, after a short, sad, painful existence, as pet food! Yet it's apparently acceptable because people don't have to see it!

No relevance to animal cruelty in Cyprus whatsoever , its like comparing hooking a fish with poisoning cats and dogs. Lets be honest about it , we have some way to go in Cyprus as far as pets and working animals welfare is concerned. We covered this subject numerous times in the past the fact that cruelty also exists in the UK is no excuse . We have to constantly strive to improve our animal welfare .

And you have a long way to go before you stop inflicting pain on the rest of us, with your unjust "observations" from the bottom of a wine glass!

The scale of farming in the UK is unprecedented for cruelty and disease. Conveyor belt production of cows, pigs, hens and sheep, pumped up with antibiotics, squeezed into minuscule crates, exported across Europe for days with minimal comforts ... not to mention the recurring major diseases every few years, be it BSE, TB, Foot and Mouth or Blue-Tongue.

Are you really telling me that is comparable to the type of farming which occurs in Cyprus?

Poisoning around rural areas is equivalent in Cyprus to your yardstick, the UK! ... Birds of Prey are frequently poisoned in Wales & Scotland, so too any cats and dogs that happen to pick up the bait. Prove to me they are not, but not based on what is said by some disillusioned, broke, pending-divorcee, who starts a thread to bad-mouth Cyprus in the most stereotypical manner imaginable, encouraged by ignorant people like you who think they gain kudos to jump on the bandwagon and stick another oar in to Cyprus, so that you can feel superior having "UK pet" values!

Listen stupid. We are talking about animal cruelty in Cyprus , by animals we mean cats dogs donkeys horses and other domestic ANIMALS. WE ARE NOT TALKING ABOUT A BLOODY CHICKEN , A MOUSE , A FLEE OR A MOSQUITO.
Animal cruelty that the ignorant sods inflict on pets and working animals . Stop your bullshit on animal farming , battery hens and the rest. The subject here was that this woman's cats had been poisoned. I once saw a guy in Ayios Athanasis , the old village , shooting at cats with his air riffle , on another occasion a guy collected 3 kittens put them in a bag laden with stones and chucked them in the sea. This is what we are talking about , perfectly normal humans in every respect , family people , industrious and honourable yet they consider the lives of cats and dogs as totaly worthless. This is what we are talking about.
To be objective one has to be impartial not jump down someones throat when an adverse comment is made against Cyprus.

ps. My poison is wine , whats yours witches brew !!

The debate has moved on somewhat ... so I'll tear you to bits another time to leave centre stage for the flow of gunge emanating at the mo ...

Suffice to say, that a pet-carrying basket was pulled out from my local UK canal with a cat (drowned ) inside; and shortly after that, a pregnant dog with bricks tied to each leg ...

Don't make me go over this Milty because you know as well as I, that the Brits can be amongst the sickest in the world when it comes to cruelty, and it is only the "turning a blind-eye" mentality that allows it to go relatively unnoticed, compared to the Cypriot "tell everyone you know" mentality.

The reason for the Brits' state of mind, I can sympathise with, and we can analyse in depth, at a more appropriate time ....

[miltiades]

[It's rather hypocritical/ignorant to only see the cruelty before your very eyes and pretend nothing untoward happens behind closed doors and even in "institutionalised" regulated set-ups ... like battery farms, which are a specialty in the UK (because of the burgeoning pet population). A lot of those chickens end up, after a short, sad, painful existence, as pet food! Yet it's apparently acceptable because people don't have to see it!

No relevance to animal cruelty in Cyprus whatsoever , its like comparing hooking a fish with poisoning cats and dogs. Lets be honest about it , we have some way to go in Cyprus as far as pets and working animals welfare is concerned. We covered this subject numerous times in the past the fact that cruelty also exists in the UK is no excuse . We have to constantly strive to improve our animal welfare .

And you have a long way to go before you stop inflicting pain on the rest of us, with your unjust "observations" from the bottom of a wine glass!

The scale of farming in the UK is unprecedented for cruelty and disease. Conveyor belt production of cows, pigs, hens and sheep, pumped up with antibiotics, squeezed into minuscule crates, exported across Europe for days with minimal comforts ... not to mention the recurring major diseases every few years, be it BSE, TB, Foot and Mouth or Blue-Tongue.

Are you really telling me that is comparable to the type of farming which occurs in Cyprus?

Poisoning around rural areas is equivalent in Cyprus to your yardstick, the UK! ... Birds of Prey are frequently poisoned in Wales & Scotland, so too any cats and dogs that happen to pick up the bait. Prove to me they are not, but not based on what is said by some disillusioned, broke, pending-divorcee, who starts a thread to bad-mouth Cyprus in the most stereotypical manner imaginable, encouraged by ignorant people like you who think they gain kudos to jump on the bandwagon and stick another oar in to Cyprus, so that you can feel superior having "UK pet" values!

Listen stupid. We are talking about animal cruelty in Cyprus , by animals we mean cats dogs donkeys horses and other domestic ANIMALS. WE ARE NOT TALKING ABOUT A BLOODY CHICKEN , A MOUSE , A FLEE OR A MOSQUITO.
Animal cruelty that the ignorant sods inflict on pets and working animals . Stop your bullshit on animal farming , battery hens and the rest. The subject here was that this woman's cats had been poisoned. I once saw a guy in Ayios Athanasis , the old village , shooting at cats with his air riffle , on another occasion a guy collected 3 kittens put them in a bag laden with stones and chucked them in the sea. This is what we are talking about , perfectly normal humans in every respect , family people , industrious and honourable yet they consider the lives of cats and dogs as totaly worthless. This is what we are talking about.
To be objective one has to be impartial not jump down someones throat when an adverse comment is made against Cyprus.

ps. My poison is wine , whats yours witches brew !!

The debate has moved on somewhat ... so I'll tear you to bits another time to leave centre stage for the flow of gunge emanating at the mo ...

Suffice to say, that a pet-carrying basket was pulled out from my local UK canal with a cat (drowned ) inside; and shortly after that, a pregnant dog with bricks tied to each leg ...

Don't make me go over this Milty because you know as well as I, that the Brits can be amongst the sickest in the world when it comes to cruelty, and it is only the "turning a blind-eye" mentality that allows it to go relatively unnoticed, compared to the Cypriot "tell everyone you know" mentality.

The reason for the Brits' state of mind, I can sympathise with, and we can analyse in depth, at a more appropriate time ....

O do try and understand something very very basic , you have the brain stop for a second and consider what I'm saying.
No one is saying that cruelty to animals does not exist in the UK , in all of Europe ,in the USA , West Indies , Timbuktu , Australia and Papua New Guinea. Child molesting , murders also are widespread in the world , are we to ignore the seriousness of such actions were they to occur in Cyprus because the occurrence of them in the world is on a far more larger scale that Cyprus?
If a child was to suffer cruelty in Cyprus are we to dismiss it by stating that such cruelty also exists in other nations ?
You never fail to amaze me , but there again I had you well sussed out from day one, a bit like Eliko with his bizarre comments on self mutilation , Robert fuckningngng Mugabe and the man eaters of the Amazon forest .
Get a hold of your self woman you are beginning to annoy me !

[Oracle]

Since cruelty exists in all nations, and some like the UK are worse than others, why do you jump in to blame ONLY Cyprus?

It gets no one anywhere, to constantly have their efforts diminished, such as you manage to do to Cyprus ALL the time!

Cyprus has a good foundation for a healthy respect of animals, so blooming well egg them on positively!

BTW ... I found out today that the Brits' predilection for large eggs, causes the poor hens even more unnecessary, extra pain

[denizaksulu]

No thanks for that info Oracle. You have just put me off my Extra Large Organic eggs from M & S.

[GorillaGal]

cats are wild animals

they are supposed to run free, scavenge, fcuk, fight and generally do all the things wild animals do

if there is an imbalance in nature and too many of them, then nature will correct that imbalance through natural selection

the fittest and strongest will survive, the rest will be run over by cars, starve, etc etc. it's pretty brutal but that's nature. deal with it.

it's our own selfish egos which create the problem in the first place. we want to make a wild animal a pet, then we wonder why it will not conform to our notions of cleanliness and order. they spray urine, they fight, they mate. we want to stop that and have them live an artificial existence because we are too fcuked up to go out and connect with other human beings. instead we project all our insecurities and wants onto the poor creature who asked for none of it. and when they don't behave as we wish, we go and chop their balls of or rip out their uterus so they will not feel their natural instincts !

cats are wild. thats how they were meant to be. they have no loyalty to anyone.

people who keep cats as pets are fooling themselves

get a dog

BIG CATS are wild animals. the ones in cyprus are all domestic cats, albeit, most are strays ro feral, they are all decendants of, and capable of, being domestic cats.

[Oracle]

No thanks for that info Oracle. You have just put me off my Extra Large Organic eggs from M & S.

Deniz, don't do it!

Don't get the BIG eggs! Honestly the hens end up with a prolapsed Cloaca laying unnaturally bigger and bigger eggs.

Just have more smaller ones if you must.

Make sure they are free range or Woodland ... never mind the Organic bit, that is purely for your benefit, not the Hens! It just needs space and freedom to lay small (easy to pass) eggs!

So keep eating those eggs ... Lord knows you need them for the Omega 3's and to bulk up those skinny legs

[miltiades]

Since cruelty exists in all nations, and some like the UK are worse than others, why do you jump in to blame ONLY Cyprus?

It gets no one anywhere, to constantly have their efforts diminished, such as you manage to do to Cyprus ALL the time!

Cyprus has a good foundation for a healthy respect of animals, so blooming well egg them on positively!

BTW ... I found out today that the Brits' predilection for large eggs, causes the poor hens even more unnecessary, extra pain

You are a lost cause , yap yap yap , a bit like a hen really with an enlarged orifice to ease the passage of those large eggs the Brits love so much !!!
I criticize ignorant cruelty to animals in Cyprus which exists and is routinely excused by morons who think so what in the UK they have have cruelty to !! Its like saying that being obese in Cyprus is perfectly OK because the Americans have far bigger asses than the Cypriots ! !!
I think I will have a glass of wine to calm the nerves down

[Oracle]

Since cruelty exists in all nations, and some like the UK are worse than others, why do you jump in to blame ONLY Cyprus?

It gets no one anywhere, to constantly have their efforts diminished, such as you manage to do to Cyprus ALL the time!

Cyprus has a good foundation for a healthy respect of animals, so blooming well egg them on positively!

BTW ... I found out today that the Brits' predilection for large eggs, causes the poor hens even more unnecessary, extra pain

You are a lost cause , yap yap yap , a bit like a hen really with an enlarged orifice to ease the passage of those large eggs the Brits love so much !!!
I criticize ignorant cruelty to animals in Cyprus which exists and is routinely excused by morons who think so what in the UK they have have cruelty to !! Its like saying that being obese in Cyprus is perfectly OK because the Americans have far bigger asses than the Cypriots ! !!
I think I will have a glass of wine to calm the nerves down

What you are doing is excusing the Brits!

And since there are more of them, and the potential for cruelty is greater ... then your disservice to the animal world is greater.

If you want to do right by the animals (instead of your pro-Brit credentials) ... condemn the Brits first!

Let's see if you are man enough ....

[The Grim Reaper]

Ok, that's enough; stick to the topic, everyone, or this thread goes. Can I ask adults only, to post, in future. For those who missed the deleted posts - well done!








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