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[Mr. T]

To be technically correct there were 29,500,000 results in response to my search. This is a fact.

Someone has already corrected you that search engines are CASE INSENSITIVE so regardless of whether you type “South” or “south” the same results will appear.

Quite so but it does not stop the fact that there are numerous websites referring to South Cyprus and not just TC ones.

[Get Real!]

To be technically correct there were 29,500,000 results in response to my search. This is a fact.

Someone has already corrected you that search engines are CASE INSENSITIVE so regardless of whether you type “South” or “south” the same results will appear.

Quite so but it does not stop the fact that there are numerous websites referring to South Cyprus and not just TC ones.

Every country has a north, east, south, and west so quit wasting our time with bollocks! Aren’t you tired of scraping the bottom of the barrel for attention?

[Oracle]

To be technically correct there were 29,500,000 results in response to my search. This is a fact.

Someone has already corrected you that search engines are CASE INSENSITIVE so regardless of whether you type “South” or “south” the same results will appear.

Quite so but it does not stop the fact that there are numerous websites referring to South Cyprus and not just TC ones.

So they are as confused as you about the significance of using capital letters in proper nouns (Cyprus) relative to common nouns (south, as in south Cyprus). Standard English employs a bicameral script with rules for usage; Google (or an illiterate) does not!

[Mr. T]

To be technically correct there were 29,500,000 results in response to my search. This is a fact.

Someone has already corrected you that search engines are CASE INSENSITIVE so regardless of whether you type “South” or “south” the same results will appear.

Quite so but it does not stop the fact that there are numerous websites referring to South Cyprus and not just TC ones.

So they are as confused as you about the significance of using capital letters in proper nouns (Cyprus) relative to common nouns (south, as in south Cyprus). Standard English employs a bicameral script with rules for usage; Google (or an illiterate) does not!

Not confused at all. We are just using the promer noun ' South Cyprus'.

[Mr. T]

To be technically correct there were 29,500,000 results in response to my search. This is a fact.

Someone has already corrected you that search engines are CASE INSENSITIVE so regardless of whether you type “South” or “south” the same results will appear.

Quite so but it does not stop the fact that there are numerous websites referring to South Cyprus and not just TC ones.

Every country has a north, east, south, and west so quit wasting our time with bollocks! Aren’t you tired of scraping the bottom of the barrel for attention?

As ever your comments do not deserve a response.
For some reason many GCs and odd others wish to deny the existence of South Cyprus obviously because they think it gives creditabilty to the fact that there is a TRNC. It matters not at all. Get real it is a silly argument as there is a Turkish Republic of Northern Cyprus, perhaps just temporarily but perhaps permanently.

[Get Real!]

To be technically correct there were 29,500,000 results in response to my search. This is a fact.

Someone has already corrected you that search engines are CASE INSENSITIVE so regardless of whether you type “South” or “south” the same results will appear.

Quite so but it does not stop the fact that there are numerous websites referring to South Cyprus and not just TC ones.

Every country has a north, east, south, and west so quit wasting our time with bollocks! Aren’t you tired of scraping the bottom of the barrel for attention?

As ever your comments do not deserve a response.
For some reason many GCs and odd others wish to deny the existence of South Cyprus obviously because they think it gives creditabilty to the fact that there is a TRNC. It matters not at all. Get real it is a silly argument as there is a Turkish Republic of Northern Cyprus, perhaps just temporarily but perhaps permanently.

As if anyone in the world cares what a bunch of washed out Ottoman remnant bums think…

[Mr. T]

To be technically correct there were 29,500,000 results in response to my search. This is a fact.

Someone has already corrected you that search engines are CASE INSENSITIVE so regardless of whether you type “South” or “south” the same results will appear.

Quite so but it does not stop the fact that there are numerous websites referring to South Cyprus and not just TC ones.

Every country has a north, east, south, and west so quit wasting our time with bollocks! Aren’t you tired of scraping the bottom of the barrel for attention?

As ever your comments do not deserve a response.
For some reason many GCs and odd others wish to deny the existence of South Cyprus obviously because they think it gives creditabilty to the fact that there is a TRNC. It matters not at all. Get real it is a silly argument as there is a Turkish Republic of Northern Cyprus, perhaps just temporarily but perhaps permanently.

As if anyone in the world cares what a bunch of washed out Ottoman remnant bums think…

What a strange reply, of no relevance whatsoever and for that matter a contradiction of fact.

[YFred]

To be technically correct there were 29,500,000 results in response to my search. This is a fact.

Someone has already corrected you that search engines are CASE INSENSITIVE so regardless of whether you type “South” or “south” the same results will appear.

Quite so but it does not stop the fact that there are numerous websites referring to South Cyprus and not just TC ones.

Every country has a north, east, south, and west so quit wasting our time with bollocks! Aren’t you tired of scraping the bottom of the barrel for attention?

As ever your comments do not deserve a response.
For some reason many GCs and odd others wish to deny the existence of South Cyprus obviously because they think it gives creditabilty to the fact that there is a TRNC. It matters not at all. Get real it is a silly argument as there is a Turkish Republic of Northern Cyprus, perhaps just temporarily but perhaps permanently.

As if anyone in the world cares what a bunch of washed out Ottoman remnant bums think…

What a strange reply, of no relevance whatsoever and for that matter a contradiction of fact.

Mr T, its not the reply that is strange, its GR. He may not even be a real human being, I think he is a compiler.

[Oracle]

To be technically correct there were 29,500,000 results in response to my search. This is a fact.

Someone has already corrected you that search engines are CASE INSENSITIVE so regardless of whether you type “South” or “south” the same results will appear.

Quite so but it does not stop the fact that there are numerous websites referring to South Cyprus and not just TC ones.

So they are as confused as you about the significance of using capital letters in proper nouns (Cyprus) relative to common nouns (south, as in south Cyprus). Standard English employs a bicameral script with rules for usage; Google (or an illiterate) does not!

Not confused at all. We are just using the promer noun ' South Cyprus'.

You haven't got a clue ....

[turkkan]

ANALYSIS-Obama to woo Turks, Armenian pitfall awaits

Tue Mar 24, 2009 3:02pm

* Obama can unlock Turkish goodwill in April 5-7 visit

* U.S. seeks Turkey's help in Iraq, Afghanistan

* Promise to use Armenian "genocide" tag may haunt Obama


By Alistair Lyon, Special Correspondent


BEIRUT, March 24 (Reuters) - U.S. President Barack Obama has created a chance to turn Turkey's role in the wider Middle East to maximum advantage simply by going there so early in his term.

Turkey, a sometimes prickly NATO ally, holds no magic solutions, but it can help the United States in confrontations and conflicts that stretch from Israel to Afghanistan -- via Syria, Iraq and Iran -- and from Cyprus to the Caucasus.

Obama's April 5-7 visit is a nod to Turkey's regional reach, economic power, unrivalled diplomatic contacts and status as a secular Muslim democracy that has accommodated political Islam.

"It's a symbolic piece of public diplomacy at a time maybe not of crisis, but great uncertainty in U.S.-Turkish relations," said Philip Robins, a Middle East expert at Oxford University.

Turkey will not be the venue for Obama's promised major speech in a Muslim capital, but Lawrence Korb, senior fellow at the Center for American Progress, said his stop there was still a way to emphasise his message of reaching out to Muslims.

Obama may unlock the kind of goodwill generated by former U.S. President Bill Clinton when he came to Turkey in 1999, but risks dissipating it all if he uses another G-word, genocide, to describe the fate of Armenians in the Ottoman Empire in 1915.

"With the PKK (Kurdistan Workers Party) under control in Iraq and the Americans at least not confronting Iran at the moment, the Armenian issue is the thorniest," Robins said.

In his election campaign, Obama pledged to call the killings of Armenians genocide, and a resolution so to designate them was introduced in the U.S. House of Representatives last week.

A similar resolution two years ago was approved in committee but dropped after Turkey denounced it as "insulting" and hinted at halting logistical support for the U.S. war in Iraq.

Turkey accepts that many Christian Armenians were killed by Ottoman Turks during World War One, but denies that up to 1.5 million died as a result of systematic genocide.


TURKISH-ARMENIAN BREAKTHROUGH?

Ironically, Turkey and Armenia are perhaps as close as they have ever been to normalising ties and reopening the border.

Omer Taspinar, a fellow at the Brookings Institution, argues that accelerating this process could relieve Obama's dilemma.

"This is exactly what President Obama needs," he wrote, urging Turkey's ruling party to show "visionary statesmanship".

If the Armenian issue can be finessed, Obama has everything to gain from reinvigorated U.S.-Turkish ties, particularly when he is making overtures to adversaries such as Iran and Syria.

He has already sent Secretary of State Hillary Clinton and Middle East envoy George Mitchell on visits to Ankara.

"Turkey plays a pivotal role in this region," said Karim Makdisi, at the American University of Beirut. "If you are going down this route of cooperation and dialogue, countries that have open channels like Turkey are the ones you want to talk to."

Turkey, once on uneasy terms with many of its neighbours, now has ties that span faultlines in the Middle East and beyond.

"Who else can go to Moscow and Tbilisi, to Tehran and Tel Aviv? Who else can speak to Hamas in Damascus and also to the Egyptians and have good relations with the Saudis on top of that?" asked Hugh Pope, an International Crisis Group analyst.

U.S.-Turkish ties suffered badly in 2003 when Ankara opposed the invasion of Iraq -- and opinion polls show most Turks remain hostile to Washington -- but former President George W. Bush's administration began to repair the damage five years later.

"The United States is now cooperating with Turkey over Iraq and that has had amazing consequences," Pope said, noting there had been no big clash for several months between Turkish forces and PKK separatist rebels, who have bases in northern Iraq.


LOGISTICAL SUPPORT

Turkey, vital to Washington as a logistical hub for U.S. forces that are set to ramp up in Afghanistan and draw down in Iraq, has its own vital interests in regional security.

"The breadth of relationships and the involvement of Turkey is huge," said a Western official in Ankara, citing Turkish mediation between Syria and Israel among other examples.

"The United States is working very closely in sharing intelligence against the PKK and supports contacts between Turkey and the Kurdish regional government."

President Abdullah Gul this week became the first Turkish head of state to visit Iraq in over 30 years. He won harsh words for the PKK from Iraqi President Jalal Talabani and signalled Turkey's growing acceptance of the autonomy Iraqi Kurds enjoy.

Steven Flanagan, senior vice president at the Center for Strategic and International Studies in Washington, said the United States welcomed Turkey's stated willingness to play a bigger role in central Asia and help more in Afghanistan, where it has more than 800 non-combat troops.

"Turkey will also want to hear more about the U.S. withdrawal plans for Iraq," he said.

Turkey declared this month it would consider mediating between Iran and the United States, although Iranian President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad later said there was no need for this.

With U.S.-Iranian relations in flux after Obama's offer of better ties last week drew an Iranian demand for U.S. policy changes, Washington values Turkey's input on its neighbour.

"Before the president takes any steps on Iran, he wants to hear from the Turks," the Western official in Ankara said. (Additional reporting by Susan Cornwell and Caren Bohan in Washington and Ibon Villelabeitia in Ankara; Editing by Janet Lawrence)

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