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[bill cobbett]

The Scots, Irish, Welsh and English are originally all one people, the Celts, with the most recently assimilated foragers going back some thousand years (the Normans).

A bit BOLD, don't you think Oracle? I mean, TCs and GCs Do Not speak the same language, have almost Nothing in common in terms of Culture, Religious beliefs and we are not controlled by the Greek Orthodox Church. In fact, there is no, and never has been a "Homogeneous Cypriot Population". We have always lived separately, attended separate Greek and Turkish schools and only a select few, out of necessity, learnt how to speak the other language.

If Wales, Scotland, England and Northern Ireland live under one Kingdom (let's say republic), but as separate Constituent Countries, then why can't we?

Clearly the unification of Cyprus is Not going to happen the way the Greek Cypriots want, but perhaps we can Co-exist as the peoples of Cyprus in peace alternatively.

The Greek Cypriots just need to let their guard down, trust the rule of democracy, self determination and freedom - where clearly, by isolating the Turkish Cypriots and using the so-called "Turkish Invasion" as a pretext to control and minimise the Turkish Cypriots will only lead to complete Partition!

Think about what you are really trying to achieve.

See you later me-lady!

Mr H, I beg to differ. As a TC I understand what my GC friends talk about, so long as threy are talking Cypriot, when they break into the Kalamara language then I agree, we lose commonality.

Bravo re Freddie, I agree the Cy dialect is a unifying force. Still spoken by some of our northern friends including some younger ones (in my experience)

[YFred]

The Scots, Irish, Welsh and English are originally all one people, the Celts, with the most recently assimilated foragers going back some thousand years (the Normans).

A bit BOLD, don't you think Oracle? I mean, TCs and GCs Do Not speak the same language, have almost Nothing in common in terms of Culture, Religious beliefs and we are not controlled by the Greek Orthodox Church. In fact, there is no, and never has been a "Homogeneous Cypriot Population". We have always lived separately, attended separate Greek and Turkish schools and only a select few, out of necessity, learnt how to speak the other language.

If Wales, Scotland, England and Northern Ireland live under one Kingdom (let's say republic), but as separate Constituent Countries, then why can't we?

Clearly the unification of Cyprus is Not going to happen the way the Greek Cypriots want, but perhaps we can Co-exist as the peoples of Cyprus in peace alternatively.

The Greek Cypriots just need to let their guard down, trust the rule of democracy, self determination and freedom - where clearly, by isolating the Turkish Cypriots and using the so-called "Turkish Invasion" as a pretext to control and minimise the Turkish Cypriots will only lead to complete Partition!

Think about what you are really trying to achieve.

See you later me-lady!

Mr H, I beg to differ. As a TC I understand what my GC friends talk about, so long as threy are talking Cypriot, when they break into the Kalamara language then I agree, we lose commonality.

Bravo re Freddie, I agree the Cy dialect is a unifying force. Still spoken by some of our northern friends including some younger ones (in my experience)

Its not just the language we have in common, the only difference we have is you guys are mostly religious and we are not, and all of you eat pork and only a few of us eat it.

We are I would say 90% the same, just an approximate guess. We certainly have more in common with the GCs than Turks. I am not anti Turkish you understand.

[CBBB]

The Scots, Irish, Welsh and English are originally all one people, the Celts, with the most recently assimilated foragers going back some thousand years (the Normans).

A bit BOLD, don't you think Oracle? I mean, TCs and GCs Do Not speak the same language, have almost Nothing in common in terms of Culture, Religious beliefs and we are not controlled by the Greek Orthodox Church. In fact, there is no, and never has been a "Homogeneous Cypriot Population". We have always lived separately, attended separate Greek and Turkish schools and only a select few, out of necessity, learnt how to speak the other language.

If Wales, Scotland, England and Northern Ireland live under one Kingdom (let's say republic), but as separate Constituent Countries, then why can't we?

Clearly the unification of Cyprus is Not going to happen the way the Greek Cypriots want, but perhaps we can Co-exist as the peoples of Cyprus in peace alternatively.

The Greek Cypriots just need to let their guard down, trust the rule of democracy, self determination and freedom - where clearly, by isolating the Turkish Cypriots and using the so-called "Turkish Invasion" as a pretext to control and minimise the Turkish Cypriots will only lead to complete Partition!

Think about what you are really trying to achieve.

See you later me-lady!

Mr H, I beg to differ. As a TC I understand what my GC friends talk about, so long as threy are talking Cypriot, when they break into the Kalamara language then I agree, we lose commonality.

Bravo re Freddie, I agree the Cy dialect is a unifying force. Still spoken by some of our northern friends including some younger ones (in my experience)

Its not just the language we have in common, the only difference we have is you guys are mostly religious and we are not, and all of you eat pork and only a few of us eat it.

We are I would say 90% the same, just an approximate guess. We certainly have more in common with the GCs than Turks. I am not anti Turkish you understand.

What is this preoccupation with GC's being religious?

Just because over 30 years ago the president was a priest, doesn't mean GC's are religious now.

[YFred]

The Scots, Irish, Welsh and English are originally all one people, the Celts, with the most recently assimilated foragers going back some thousand years (the Normans).

A bit BOLD, don't you think Oracle? I mean, TCs and GCs Do Not speak the same language, have almost Nothing in common in terms of Culture, Religious beliefs and we are not controlled by the Greek Orthodox Church. In fact, there is no, and never has been a "Homogeneous Cypriot Population". We have always lived separately, attended separate Greek and Turkish schools and only a select few, out of necessity, learnt how to speak the other language.

If Wales, Scotland, England and Northern Ireland live under one Kingdom (let's say republic), but as separate Constituent Countries, then why can't we?

Clearly the unification of Cyprus is Not going to happen the way the Greek Cypriots want, but perhaps we can Co-exist as the peoples of Cyprus in peace alternatively.

The Greek Cypriots just need to let their guard down, trust the rule of democracy, self determination and freedom - where clearly, by isolating the Turkish Cypriots and using the so-called "Turkish Invasion" as a pretext to control and minimise the Turkish Cypriots will only lead to complete Partition!

Think about what you are really trying to achieve.

See you later me-lady!

Mr H, I beg to differ. As a TC I understand what my GC friends talk about, so long as threy are talking Cypriot, when they break into the Kalamara language then I agree, we lose commonality.

Bravo re Freddie, I agree the Cy dialect is a unifying force. Still spoken by some of our northern friends including some younger ones (in my experience)

Its not just the language we have in common, the only difference we have is you guys are mostly religious and we are not, and all of you eat pork and only a few of us eat it.

We are I would say 90% the same, just an approximate guess. We certainly have more in common with the GCs than Turks. I am not anti Turkish you understand.

What is this preoccupation with GC's being religious?

Just because over 30 years ago the president was a priest, doesn't mean GC's are religious now.

Please advise as to what percentage of people are religous in the south.
In the north, I aprroximate about 5%.

[denizaksulu]

The Scots, Irish, Welsh and English are originally all one people, the Celts, with the most recently assimilated foragers going back some thousand years (the Normans).

A bit BOLD, don't you think Oracle? I mean, TCs and GCs Do Not speak the same language, have almost Nothing in common in terms of Culture, Religious beliefs and we are not controlled by the Greek Orthodox Church. In fact, there is no, and never has been a "Homogeneous Cypriot Population". We have always lived separately, attended separate Greek and Turkish schools and only a select few, out of necessity, learnt how to speak the other language.

If Wales, Scotland, England and Northern Ireland live under one Kingdom (let's say republic), but as separate Constituent Countries, then why can't we?

Clearly the unification of Cyprus is Not going to happen the way the Greek Cypriots want, but perhaps we can Co-exist as the peoples of Cyprus in peace alternatively.

The Greek Cypriots just need to let their guard down, trust the rule of democracy, self determination and freedom - where clearly, by isolating the Turkish Cypriots and using the so-called "Turkish Invasion" as a pretext to control and minimise the Turkish Cypriots will only lead to complete Partition!

Think about what you are really trying to achieve.

See you later me-lady!

Mr H, I beg to differ. As a TC I understand what my GC friends talk about, so long as threy are talking Cypriot, when they break into the Kalamara language then I agree, we lose commonality.

Bravo re Freddie, I agree the Cy dialect is a unifying force. Still spoken by some of our northern friends including some younger ones (in my experience)

Its not just the language we have in common, the only difference we have is you guys are mostly religious and we are not, and all of you eat pork and only a few of us eat it.

We are I would say 90% the same, just an approximate guess. We certainly have more in common with the GCs than Turks. I am not anti Turkish you understand.

What is this preoccupation with GC's being religious?

Just because over 30 years ago the president was a priest, doesn't mean GC's are religious now.

Please advise as to what percentage of people are religous in the south.
In the north, I aprroximate about 5%.

Does that exclude the settlers?

[bill cobbett]

The Scots, Irish, Welsh and English are originally all one people, the Celts, with the most recently assimilated foragers going back some thousand years (the Normans).

A bit BOLD, don't you think Oracle? I mean, TCs and GCs Do Not speak the same language, have almost Nothing in common in terms of Culture, Religious beliefs and we are not controlled by the Greek Orthodox Church. In fact, there is no, and never has been a "Homogeneous Cypriot Population". We have always lived separately, attended separate Greek and Turkish schools and only a select few, out of necessity, learnt how to speak the other language.

If Wales, Scotland, England and Northern Ireland live under one Kingdom (let's say republic), but as separate Constituent Countries, then why can't we?

Clearly the unification of Cyprus is Not going to happen the way the Greek Cypriots want, but perhaps we can Co-exist as the peoples of Cyprus in peace alternatively.

The Greek Cypriots just need to let their guard down, trust the rule of democracy, self determination and freedom - where clearly, by isolating the Turkish Cypriots and using the so-called "Turkish Invasion" as a pretext to control and minimise the Turkish Cypriots will only lead to complete Partition!

Think about what you are really trying to achieve.

See you later me-lady!

Mr H, I beg to differ. As a TC I understand what my GC friends talk about, so long as threy are talking Cypriot, when they break into the Kalamara language then I agree, we lose commonality.

Bravo re Freddie, I agree the Cy dialect is a unifying force. Still spoken by some of our northern friends including some younger ones (in my experience)

Its not just the language we have in common, the only difference we have is you guys are mostly religious and we are not, and all of you eat pork and only a few of us eat it.

We are I would say 90% the same, just an approximate guess. We certainly have more in common with the GCs than Turks. I am not anti Turkish you understand.

What is this preoccupation with GC's being religious?

Just because over 30 years ago the president was a priest, doesn't mean GC's are religious now.

Please advise as to what percentage of people are religous in the south.
In the north, I aprroximate about 5%.

Sorry mate can't help with the requested statistic in the Free Areas.

bill c, ....hard-core atheist who by chance is just about to put a nice piece of gammon (pork) in the oven.

[DT.]

Does that exclude the settlers?

excellent point.

[bill cobbett]

Does that exclude the settlers?

excellent point.

Yes quite, we do so often forget these settler people. The majority population.

[Tim Drayton]

The Scots, Irish, Welsh and English are originally all one people, the Celts, with the most recently assimilated foragers going back some thousand years (the Normans).

A bit BOLD, don't you think Oracle? I mean, TCs and GCs Do Not speak the same language, have almost Nothing in common in terms of Culture, Religious beliefs and we are not controlled by the Greek Orthodox Church. In fact, there is no, and never has been a "Homogeneous Cypriot Population". We have always lived separately, attended separate Greek and Turkish schools and only a select few, out of necessity, learnt how to speak the other language.

If Wales, Scotland, England and Northern Ireland live under one Kingdom (let's say republic), but as separate Constituent Countries, then why can't we?

Clearly the unification of Cyprus is Not going to happen the way the Greek Cypriots want, but perhaps we can Co-exist as the peoples of Cyprus in peace alternatively.

The Greek Cypriots just need to let their guard down, trust the rule of democracy, self determination and freedom - where clearly, by isolating the Turkish Cypriots and using the so-called "Turkish Invasion" as a pretext to control and minimise the Turkish Cypriots will only lead to complete Partition!

Think about what you are really trying to achieve.

See you later me-lady!

Mr H, I beg to differ. As a TC I understand what my GC friends talk about, so long as threy are talking Cypriot, when they break into the Kalamara language then I agree, we lose commonality.

Bravo re Freddie, I agree the Cy dialect is a unifying force. Still spoken by some of our northern friends including some younger ones (in my experience)

Its not just the language we have in common, the only difference we have is you guys are mostly religious and we are not, and all of you eat pork and only a few of us eat it.

We are I would say 90% the same, just an approximate guess. We certainly have more in common with the GCs than Turks. I am not anti Turkish you understand.

What is this preoccupation with GC's being religious?

Just because over 30 years ago the president was a priest, doesn't mean GC's are religious now.

I think YFred is speaking in relative terms. Turkish Cypriots in my experience are remarkably non-religious.

[MrH]

Hi Tim,

I think YFred is speaking in relative terms. Turkish Cypriots in my experience are remarkably non-religious

True, I must say, but the Greek Orthodox Church in the South is incredibly powerful and influential - it's strange!

You'd think that Northern Cyprus would be religious, know what I mean? But no, the Turkish Cypriots in general are very non-religious (like myself), and as for the influence of religion in the north - well, I would say that the Muslim Mosque leaders have NO-CONTROL over ANY part of the government of the TRNC, while the Greek Orthodox Religious heads are very much renowned for their Strong hold on Greek Cypriot politics.

How funny!

Cyprus can live in peace, as we do have a very long history...but the Greek Cypriot need to realise that the platform for peace, like the new states of Europe; Czech, Montenegro, Serbia, kosovo, and etc, is the way forward. I would be very happy to work with the Greek Cypriots - At a State to State level. That way we will not chance the relationship failing by a handful of hard-headed nationalists, as it only takes a few incidents to spark of a riot - or should I say - inter-communal fighting!