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[DT.]

:lol: ok, lets try again.

with the 2 articles of the treaty I gave you....is Turkey in breach of the treaty at this moment in time or not?

And by the way the ex-president has stated on numerous occassions that the treaty of gaurantee died when Turkey breached it.

DT,
The implication of the bit highlighted is that you think that once a part/article of an instrument of law has alleged to have been broken then the whole instrument is 'invalid', that is to say, no longer has force ? Is that what you mean ? Just wondering.

The breach itself did not render the treaty invalid, the rights given to the Republic because of the breach are what makes it invalid. The Republic was within its rights to declare all or part of the treaty invalid. Naturally the part that involved Turkey (who committed the breach) was declared no longer in force.

How nice of the Republic to make such monumental decisions for us, without consultation. We are truly thankful for not being burdened for such monumental decision making. I look forward to the RoC joining the Civilised world and being a little just a little more inclusive in the future, only about 5% you understand, I don’t mean to be too demanding an all that.

In the mean time we officially herby declare that we have not relinquished Turkey of the responsibility of protecting all Cypriots, so we can return the favour to you with the full RoC democratic principles and all that, old boy.

If you can convince the govt of Cyprus to re-introduce the treaty then go ahead. I think you'll have a hard time.

[Paphitis]

:lol: ok, lets try again.

with the 2 articles of the treaty I gave you....is Turkey in breach of the treaty at this moment in time or not?

And by the way the ex-president has stated on numerous occassions that the treaty of gaurantee died when Turkey breached it.

DT,
The implication of the bit highlighted is that you think that once a part/article of an instrument of law has alleged to have been broken then the whole instrument is 'invalid', that is to say, no longer has force ? Is that what you mean ? Just wondering.

The breach itself did not render the treaty invalid, the rights given to the Republic because of the breach are what makes it invalid. The Republic was within its rights to declare all or part of the treaty invalid. Naturally the part that involved Turkey (who committed the breach) was declared no longer in force.

How nice of the Republic to make such monumental decisions for us, without consultation. We are truly thankful for not being burdened for such monumental decision making. I look forward to the RoC joining the Civilised world and being a little just a little more inclusive in the future, only about 5% you understand, I don’t mean to be too demanding an all that.

In the mean time we officially herby declare that we have not relinquished Turkey of the responsibility of protecting all Cypriots, so we can return the favour to you with the full RoC democratic principles and all that, old boy.

If you can convince the govt of Cyprus to re-introduce the treaty then go ahead. I think you'll have a hard time.

Apparently it is a BIG show stopper in these peace talks...

Well NEVER happen. Marcos Kyprianou's words, not mine...

[DT.]

now that I have you here Yfred. Whats going on here? http://www.cyprus-forum.com/viewtopic.php?t=22741

where you there or not?

[RAFAELLA]

My destroyed home town. Silent for 35 years due to the turkish occupation.

Iy you owned all that you must be TPapa's relation.

Your ignorance is excusable; your rudeness, cruelty and dishonesty are not!

I am not surprised Oracle. You shouldn't be either.
We already know their attidute and behavior.

[YFred]

now that I have you here Yfred. Whats going on here? http://www.cyprus-forum.com/viewtopic.php?t=22741

where you there or not?

I am here, I am there, I am everywhereeeeeeeeeeeeeee.
DT. What is it you want to know my temporary friend?
I can see we aint gon a be friends for long????

[YFred]

:lol: ok, lets try again.

with the 2 articles of the treaty I gave you....is Turkey in breach of the treaty at this moment in time or not?

And by the way the ex-president has stated on numerous occassions that the treaty of gaurantee died when Turkey breached it.

DT,
The implication of the bit highlighted is that you think that once a part/article of an instrument of law has alleged to have been broken then the whole instrument is 'invalid', that is to say, no longer has force ? Is that what you mean ? Just wondering.

The breach itself did not render the treaty invalid, the rights given to the Republic because of the breach are what makes it invalid. The Republic was within its rights to declare all or part of the treaty invalid. Naturally the part that involved Turkey (who committed the breach) was declared no longer in force.

How nice of the Republic to make such monumental decisions for us, without consultation. We are truly thankful for not being burdened for such monumental decision making. I look forward to the RoC joining the Civilised world and being a little just a little more inclusive in the future, only about 5% you understand, I don’t mean to be too demanding an all that.

In the mean time we officially herby declare that we have not relinquished Turkey of the responsibility of protecting all Cypriots, so we can return the favour to you with the full RoC democratic principles and all that, old boy.

If you can convince the govt of Cyprus to re-introduce the treaty then go ahead. I think you'll have a hard time.

Apparently it is a BIG show stopper in these peace talks...

Well NEVER happen. Marcos Kyprianou's words, not mine...

Then, RoC and TRNC will part company for ever and ever and ever.
Demis Russos number.
Thats it that one.

[boulio]

there probably will be a treaty of gurantorship,however it will not be the one the ROC had with GB,GREECE,TURKEY.There will be a meeting in strasbourg i believe on april 6,7 at the EP.with members said above and nato as well.

It will be A eu/nato gurantee with turkish participation.No more unilateral intervention.

[YFred]

there probably will be a treaty of gurantorship,however it will not be the one the ROC had with GB,GREECE,TURKEY.There will be a meeting in strasbourg i believe on april 6,7 at the EP.with members said above and nato as well.

It will be A eu/nato gurantee with turkish participation.No more unilateral intervention.

We are playing with words. Assume that there is no guarantee. Do you believe that if 63 or 74 happend again, Turkey will not be able to repeat 74 with or without International support.

We will not rely on EU or UN. Both parties are guttless.

[boulio]

We are playing with words. Assume that there is no guarantee. Do you believe that if 63 or 74 happend again, Turkey will not be able to repeat 74 with or without International support.

We will not rely on EU or UN. Both parties are guttless.


no im sure turkey can repeat its 1974 "PEACE" performance.its only 40 miles away.however there will be mecanisms in place for a intervention and it might not be turkey per say.

both eu are gutless?but t/c advocate to join EU and Want a UN sponcered plan.

MAKE UP YOUR MINDS ALREADY.[/quote]

[YFred]

We are playing with words. Assume that there is no guarantee. Do you believe that if 63 or 74 happend again, Turkey will not be able to repeat 74 with or without International support.

We will not rely on EU or UN. Both parties are guttless.


no im sure turkey can repeat its 1974 "PEACE" performance.its only 40 miles away.however there will be mecanisms in place for a intervention and it might not be turkey per say.

both eu are gutless?but t/c advocate to join EU and Want a UN sponcered plan.

MAKE UP YOUR MINDS ALREADY.

Thats the only track available on this train journey I am affraid at the moment.
However if Eroglu gets into power and this final peace process fails, I am sure we will be presented with some real alternatives.