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How can a community comprising only 18% of the population be political equal to the remaining 80%?

This question should be directed at the United Nations. This institution, whose principles we claim to uphold, claims that the solution of the Cyprus problem should entail Bicommunal, Bizonal Federation with political equality of the two communities in the central government. The UN has intrpreted this as meaning "effective participation in all the organs of the federal government".

It is NOT the UN that decided that Bananiot! This joke first started with Makarios & Denktash in the High-Level Agreement of 1977…

http://www.mfa.gov.cy/mfa/mfa2006.nsf/A ... 201977.pdf

…because the UN had failed in implementing UN resolution 353 (1974)…

http://www.un.int/cyprus/scr353.htm

“3.Demands an immediate end to foreign military intervention in the Republic of Cyprus that is in contravention of the provisions of paragraph 1 above;

4. Requests the withdrawal without delay from the Republic of Cyprus of foreign military personnel present otherwise than under the authority of international agreements, including those whose withdrawal was requested by the President of the Republic of Cyprus, Archbishop Makarios, in his letter of 2 July 1974;“

…and all subsequent resolutions thereafter in favor of Cyprus, because the criminal US and UK couldn’t care less about international justice, so the now aging Makarios threw in the towel and foolishly attempted to negotiate Turkey’s blackmails!

Cyprus is one of the world’s greatest international miscarriages of justice…

[Paphitis]

UN resolutions say that political equality between the two communities does not mean numerical representation but effective participation in governance.

The Turkish Cypriots could be a minority in the different bodies of the Central Government but decisions will be taken in such a way so that the majority will not be able to dictate decisions. The Annan Plan provided an ingenious way to overcome this issue, but we rejected it.

You are referring to Legislative Council or Senate safeguards and not the House of Representatives.

Obviously the same would also apply to the Armenians, Latin and Maronite Cypriots, as they too should also be allocated the same number of Senate seats, just to ensure that their rights are not abused. Or is it only the TCs that deserve this "special" status?

You killed the Muslim TCs so they need safeguards. Christian Armenian,Latin, Maronites are already dissolved within GC society and you are not a threat for them.

The GCs had to defend themselves against TC and TMT attacks. So it was only natural that you have 800 odd casualties from 58-74. Compare this to 15,000 GCs that the Turks killed from 58-74and the 200,000 that were ethnically cleansed. It is the GCs that require Guarantees and protection from Turkish war crimes.

[YFred]

UN resolutions say that political equality between the two communities does not mean numerical representation but effective participation in governance.

The Turkish Cypriots could be a minority in the different bodies of the Central Government but decisions will be taken in such a way so that the majority will not be able to dictate decisions. The Annan Plan provided an ingenious way to overcome this issue, but we rejected it.

You are referring to Legislative Council or Senate safeguards and not the House of Representatives.

Obviously the same would also apply to the Armenians, Latin and Maronite Cypriots, as they too should also be allocated the same number of Senate seats, just to ensure that their rights are not abused. Or is it only the TCs that deserve this "special" status?

You killed the Muslim TCs so they need safeguards. Christian Armenian,Latin, Maronites are already dissolved within GC society and you are not a threat for them.

The GCs had to defend themselves against TC and TMT attacks. So it was only natural that you have 800 odd casualties from 58-74. Compare this to 15,000 GCs that the Turks killed from 58-74and the 200,000 that were ethnically cleansed. It is the GCs that require Guarantees and protection from Turkish war crimes.

Two questions for you.
1. How many GCs were killed between 1963 and 1974?
2. How many TCs would have been killed if TA did not arrive?

Come on I need a good laugh?

[DT.]

UN resolutions say that political equality between the two communities does not mean numerical representation but effective participation in governance.

The Turkish Cypriots could be a minority in the different bodies of the Central Government but decisions will be taken in such a way so that the majority will not be able to dictate decisions. The Annan Plan provided an ingenious way to overcome this issue, but we rejected it.

You are referring to Legislative Council or Senate safeguards and not the House of Representatives.

Obviously the same would also apply to the Armenians, Latin and Maronite Cypriots, as they too should also be allocated the same number of Senate seats, just to ensure that their rights are not abused. Or is it only the TCs that deserve this "special" status?

You killed the Muslim TCs so they need safeguards. Christian Armenian,Latin, Maronites are already dissolved within GC society and you are not a threat for them.

The GCs had to defend themselves against TC and TMT attacks. So it was only natural that you have 800 odd casualties from 58-74. Compare this to 15,000 GCs that the Turks killed from 58-74and the 200,000 that were ethnically cleansed. It is the GCs that require Guarantees and protection from Turkish war crimes.

Two questions for you.
1. How many GCs were killed between 1963 and 1974?
2. How many TCs would have been killed if TA did not arrive?

Come on I need a good laugh?

SO i guess you supported the Hiroshima and Nagasaki nuclear annihilation's?

[Paphitis]

UN resolutions say that political equality between the two communities does not mean numerical representation but effective participation in governance.

The Turkish Cypriots could be a minority in the different bodies of the Central Government but decisions will be taken in such a way so that the majority will not be able to dictate decisions. The Annan Plan provided an ingenious way to overcome this issue, but we rejected it.

You are referring to Legislative Council or Senate safeguards and not the House of Representatives.

Obviously the same would also apply to the Armenians, Latin and Maronite Cypriots, as they too should also be allocated the same number of Senate seats, just to ensure that their rights are not abused. Or is it only the TCs that deserve this "special" status?

You killed the Muslim TCs so they need safeguards. Christian Armenian,Latin, Maronites are already dissolved within GC society and you are not a threat for them.

The GCs had to defend themselves against TC and TMT attacks. So it was only natural that you have 800 odd casualties from 58-74. Compare this to 15,000 GCs that the Turks killed from 58-74and the 200,000 that were ethnically cleansed. It is the GCs that require Guarantees and protection from Turkish war crimes.

Two questions for you.
1. How many GCs were killed between 1963 and 1974?
2. How many TCs would have been killed if TA did not arrive?

Come on I need a good laugh?

About 10,000 GCs were killed between 63 and 74.

No TCs were killed prior to Turkey's invasion. There were no Inter communal clashes since 67.

If Turkey did not invade, there would have been peace and harmony on the island. The coup was a GC affair and its aim was not ENOSIS.

[YFred]

UN resolutions say that political equality between the two communities does not mean numerical representation but effective participation in governance.

The Turkish Cypriots could be a minority in the different bodies of the Central Government but decisions will be taken in such a way so that the majority will not be able to dictate decisions. The Annan Plan provided an ingenious way to overcome this issue, but we rejected it.

You are referring to Legislative Council or Senate safeguards and not the House of Representatives.

Obviously the same would also apply to the Armenians, Latin and Maronite Cypriots, as they too should also be allocated the same number of Senate seats, just to ensure that their rights are not abused. Or is it only the TCs that deserve this "special" status?

You killed the Muslim TCs so they need safeguards. Christian Armenian,Latin, Maronites are already dissolved within GC society and you are not a threat for them.

The GCs had to defend themselves against TC and TMT attacks. So it was only natural that you have 800 odd casualties from 58-74. Compare this to 15,000 GCs that the Turks killed from 58-74and the 200,000 that were ethnically cleansed. It is the GCs that require Guarantees and protection from Turkish war crimes.

Two questions for you.
1. How many GCs were killed between 1963 and 1974?
2. How many TCs would have been killed if TA did not arrive?

Come on I need a good laugh?

SO i guess you supported the Hiroshima and Nagasaki nuclear annihilation's?

Don't be stupid, I wasn't even born then, and I have been active supporter of CND ever since I can remember. I was merely making a point of fact.

[YFred]

UN resolutions say that political equality between the two communities does not mean numerical representation but effective participation in governance.

The Turkish Cypriots could be a minority in the different bodies of the Central Government but decisions will be taken in such a way so that the majority will not be able to dictate decisions. The Annan Plan provided an ingenious way to overcome this issue, but we rejected it.

You are referring to Legislative Council or Senate safeguards and not the House of Representatives.

Obviously the same would also apply to the Armenians, Latin and Maronite Cypriots, as they too should also be allocated the same number of Senate seats, just to ensure that their rights are not abused. Or is it only the TCs that deserve this "special" status?

You killed the Muslim TCs so they need safeguards. Christian Armenian,Latin, Maronites are already dissolved within GC society and you are not a threat for them.

The GCs had to defend themselves against TC and TMT attacks. So it was only natural that you have 800 odd casualties from 58-74. Compare this to 15,000 GCs that the Turks killed from 58-74and the 200,000 that were ethnically cleansed. It is the GCs that require Guarantees and protection from Turkish war crimes.

Two questions for you.
1. How many GCs were killed between 1963 and 1974?
2. How many TCs would have been killed if TA did not arrive?

Come on I need a good laugh?

About 10,000 GCs were killed between 63 and 74.

No TCs were killed prior to Turkey's invasion. There were no Inter communal clashes since 67.

If Turkey did not invade, there would have been peace and harmony on the island. The coup was a GC affair and its aim was not ENOSIS.

Yep true to form. It's the funniest thing you've posted so far.

[DT.]

UN resolutions say that political equality between the two communities does not mean numerical representation but effective participation in governance.

The Turkish Cypriots could be a minority in the different bodies of the Central Government but decisions will be taken in such a way so that the majority will not be able to dictate decisions. The Annan Plan provided an ingenious way to overcome this issue, but we rejected it.

Behold the ingeniuity of the Annan Plan on governance.

The Turkish Cypriots would have been given 1/2 of the seats in the Senate and Greek Cypriots living in the occupied areas would not have been allowed to vote for their own representatives in that area but instead the people will vote as Greek and Turkish Cypriots. (Annex I Article 22 Para. 3). In the Chamber of Deputies the Turkish Cypriots would be given the right to effectively veto all legislation if 25% of them do not agree. Worse than that matters involving taxation, the federal budget, citizenship, treaties, election of the presidential council and many other matters will require 2/5 or 40% of the Turkish Cypriots to agree. This would have made Cyprus completely UNGOVERNABLE.

The Turkish Cypriots would have been given 1/3 of the voting (total 6) and non-voting seats on the Presidential Council and would also retain the right to veto all decisions.

The Presidency would rotate from Greek Cypriot to Turkish Cypriot every 20 months.

I don't even want to go into the deadlock mechanism..suffice to say that 8 federal institutions could have dropped this country into mayhem at any time. If you like I can expand on this as well.


And just in case anyone forgot, here's the oath the tc deputies would take for this Cypriot state.

“I do swear upon my honour and dignity that I shall preserve the existence, rights and sovereignly exercised powers of the State within the United Cyprus Republic; that I shall be bound by the principle of the supremacy of law and by the principles of a democratic secular State, social justice and the principles of Atatürk; that I shall work for the welfare and happiness of my people; that I shall not depart from the ideal that every citizen must benefit from human rights and that I shall remain loyal to the Constitution.”

Makes you feel proud you're a Cypriot don't it?

[insan]

If UN was able to had Israelis created a state on Palestinian land and recognized the so-called RoC for the sake of keeping Greece in Nato because of US and Nato interests on Balkans; why not TRNC on Cyprus? How it suits? How it suits!

[Paphitis]

UN resolutions say that political equality between the two communities does not mean numerical representation but effective participation in governance.

The Turkish Cypriots could be a minority in the different bodies of the Central Government but decisions will be taken in such a way so that the majority will not be able to dictate decisions. The Annan Plan provided an ingenious way to overcome this issue, but we rejected it.

You are referring to Legislative Council or Senate safeguards and not the House of Representatives.

Obviously the same would also apply to the Armenians, Latin and Maronite Cypriots, as they too should also be allocated the same number of Senate seats, just to ensure that their rights are not abused. Or is it only the TCs that deserve this "special" status?

You killed the Muslim TCs so they need safeguards. Christian Armenian,Latin, Maronites are already dissolved within GC society and you are not a threat for them.

The GCs had to defend themselves against TC and TMT attacks. So it was only natural that you have 800 odd casualties from 58-74. Compare this to 15,000 GCs that the Turks killed from 58-74and the 200,000 that were ethnically cleansed. It is the GCs that require Guarantees and protection from Turkish war crimes.

Two questions for you.
1. How many GCs were killed between 1963 and 1974?
2. How many TCs would have been killed if TA did not arrive?

Come on I need a good laugh?

About 10,000 GCs were killed between 63 and 74.

No TCs were killed prior to Turkey's invasion. There were no Inter communal clashes since 67.

If Turkey did not invade, there would have been peace and harmony on the island. The coup was a GC affair and its aim was not ENOSIS.

Yep true to form. It's the funniest thing you've posted so far.

Why is that?

I have answered your questions truthfully.

About 10,000 GCs were killed between 63-74 and over 200,000 were ethnically cleansed from their homes.

No TCs were killed between 67 and 74.