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Postby Kuruovali » Tue Mar 10, 2009 2:09 pm

bill cobbett wrote:A wise member suggested a few days ago (I forget who) an interim Police Force from fellow and impartial EU states. Very wise idea.

It's 2009, shall we move on?


No Bill, it's not as simple as that and to suggest so is ludicrous and will fool/convince no lone. Remember it wasn't too long ago that the 'impartial' UN stepped aside and allowed the slaughter of 8000 Bosnian men and boys in Srebrenica. Slaughtered by the Serbs who were indirectly assisted their Greek orthodox kinsmen (Greeks broke the UN arms embargo allowing weapons and ammunition to flow to the Serbs).

So, let me just repeat to make it absolutely clear for those that still don't get it...... for the time being there is only one gurantee for the survival and freedoms of the TC's within Cyprus and that is the Turkish Army.

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Postby Paphitis » Tue Mar 10, 2009 2:15 pm

Kuruovali wrote:
bill cobbett wrote:A wise member suggested a few days ago (I forget who) an interim Police Force from fellow and impartial EU states. Very wise idea.

It's 2009, shall we move on?


No Bill, it's not as simple as that and to suggest so is ludicrous and will fool/convince no lone. Remember it wasn't too long ago that the 'impartial' UN stepped aside and allowed the slaughter of 8000 Bosnian men and boys in Srebrenica. Slaughtered by the Serbs who were indirectly assisted their Greek orthodox kinsmen (Greeks broke the UN arms embargo allowing weapons and ammunition to flow to the Serbs).

So, let me just repeat to make it absolutely clear for those that still don't get it...... for the time being there is only one gurantee for the survival and freedoms of the TC's within Cyprus and that is the Turkish Army.

K


That Bosnian massacre sounds awfully similar to the GC massacre at the hands of the Turkish Army in 74. Some 10,000 GCs were killed or are missing.

Guarantees from the very same Army that killed us is not acceptable. We have serious security concerns about this.

The EU Acquis is enough security for all communities.
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Postby YFred » Tue Mar 10, 2009 2:21 pm

Paphitis wrote:
Kuruovali wrote:
bill cobbett wrote:A wise member suggested a few days ago (I forget who) an interim Police Force from fellow and impartial EU states. Very wise idea.

It's 2009, shall we move on?


No Bill, it's not as simple as that and to suggest so is ludicrous and will fool/convince no lone. Remember it wasn't too long ago that the 'impartial' UN stepped aside and allowed the slaughter of 8000 Bosnian men and boys in Srebrenica. Slaughtered by the Serbs who were indirectly assisted their Greek orthodox kinsmen (Greeks broke the UN arms embargo allowing weapons and ammunition to flow to the Serbs).

So, let me just repeat to make it absolutely clear for those that still don't get it...... for the time being there is only one gurantee for the survival and freedoms of the TC's within Cyprus and that is the Turkish Army.

K


That Bosnian massacre sounds awfully similar to the GC massacre at the hands of the Turkish Army in 74. Some 10,000 GCs were killed or are missing.

Guarantees from the very same Army that killed us is not acceptable. We have serious security concerns about this.

The EU Acquis is enough security for all communities.

You just defeated your own argument. You have all the guarantee you need.
We will decide what is good enough for us dear boy, not you.
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Postby bill cobbett » Tue Mar 10, 2009 2:44 pm

Kuruovali wrote:
bill cobbett wrote:A wise member suggested a few days ago (I forget who) an interim Police Force from fellow and impartial EU states. Very wise idea.

It's 2009, shall we move on?


No Bill, it's not as simple as that and to suggest so is ludicrous and will fool/convince no lone. Remember it wasn't too long ago that the 'impartial' UN stepped aside and allowed the slaughter of 8000 Bosnian men and boys in Srebrenica. Slaughtered by the Serbs who were indirectly assisted their Greek orthodox kinsmen (Greeks broke the UN arms embargo allowing weapons and ammunition to flow to the Serbs).

So, let me just repeat to make it absolutely clear for those that still don't get it...... for the time being there is only one gurantee for the survival and freedoms of the TC's within Cyprus and that is the Turkish Army.

K


(Welcome K)

The damnable events in Srebeniza were in the middle of a hot and active war and only a Propagandist Plonker would suggest they apply to present day Cy which has been pretty peaceful for 35 years.

Anyway can you tell us K whether the thousands of our northern friends who cross the green line each day for work, shopping etc into the Free Areas of the Republic feel so unsafe as to bring with them a contingent of this Jurkish Army to guarantee their safety? When one of our northern sisters goes shopping in Ledra is she surrounded by a platoon of the Jurkish Army?

To my mind those that cross seem to "survive" pretty well.

You also say that this Jurkish Army guarantees the freedoms of the "tcs" K. Might you tell us in what ways the Jurkish Army safeguards the normal democratic rights of our northern community to enjoy such things as freedom of free expression?

Better community relations won't be encouraged by any army, whether from Turkey or anywhere else. Indeed a Turkish one (or a Gr one) promotes only suspision and division.
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Postby YFred » Tue Mar 10, 2009 2:52 pm

bill cobbett wrote:
Kuruovali wrote:
bill cobbett wrote:A wise member suggested a few days ago (I forget who) an interim Police Force from fellow and impartial EU states. Very wise idea.

It's 2009, shall we move on?


No Bill, it's not as simple as that and to suggest so is ludicrous and will fool/convince no lone. Remember it wasn't too long ago that the 'impartial' UN stepped aside and allowed the slaughter of 8000 Bosnian men and boys in Srebrenica. Slaughtered by the Serbs who were indirectly assisted their Greek orthodox kinsmen (Greeks broke the UN arms embargo allowing weapons and ammunition to flow to the Serbs).

So, let me just repeat to make it absolutely clear for those that still don't get it...... for the time being there is only one gurantee for the survival and freedoms of the TC's within Cyprus and that is the Turkish Army.

K


(Welcome K)

The damnable events in Srebeniza were in the middle of a hot and active war and only a Propagandist Plonker would suggest they apply to present day Cy which has been pretty peaceful for 35 years.

Anyway can you tell us K whether the thousands of our northern friends who cross the green line each day for work, shopping etc into the Free Areas of the Republic feel so unsafe as to bring with them a contingent of this Jurkish Army to guarantee their safety? When one of our northern sisters goes shopping in Ledra is she surrounded by a platoon of the Jurkish Army?

To my mind those that cross seem to "survive" pretty well.

You also say that this Jurkish Army guarantees the freedoms of the "tcs" K. Might you tell us in what ways the Jurkish Army safeguards the normal democratic rights of our northern community to enjoy such things as freedom of free expression?

Better community relations won't be encouraged by any army, whether from Turkey or anywhere else. Indeed a Turkish one (or a Gr one) promotes only suspision and division.

Bill, please get someone to stand by one of the crossings and ask the TCs crossing over about this subject. If 9.995 out of ten does not agree with what we are saying, I will change my name to Nigoli.
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Postby Paphitis » Tue Mar 10, 2009 3:04 pm

YFred wrote:
Paphitis wrote:
Kuruovali wrote:
bill cobbett wrote:A wise member suggested a few days ago (I forget who) an interim Police Force from fellow and impartial EU states. Very wise idea.

It's 2009, shall we move on?


No Bill, it's not as simple as that and to suggest so is ludicrous and will fool/convince no lone. Remember it wasn't too long ago that the 'impartial' UN stepped aside and allowed the slaughter of 8000 Bosnian men and boys in Srebrenica. Slaughtered by the Serbs who were indirectly assisted their Greek orthodox kinsmen (Greeks broke the UN arms embargo allowing weapons and ammunition to flow to the Serbs).

So, let me just repeat to make it absolutely clear for those that still don't get it...... for the time being there is only one gurantee for the survival and freedoms of the TC's within Cyprus and that is the Turkish Army.

K


That Bosnian massacre sounds awfully similar to the GC massacre at the hands of the Turkish Army in 74. Some 10,000 GCs were killed or are missing.

Guarantees from the very same Army that killed us is not acceptable. We have serious security concerns about this.

The EU Acquis is enough security for all communities.

You just defeated your own argument. You have all the guarantee you need.
We will decide what is good enough for us dear boy, not you.


You will find my answer to your ridiculous post here..

http://www.cyprus-forum.com/viewtopic.php?t=22729
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Postby bill cobbett » Tue Mar 10, 2009 3:12 pm

YFred wrote:
bill cobbett wrote:
Kuruovali wrote:
bill cobbett wrote:A wise member suggested a few days ago (I forget who) an interim Police Force from fellow and impartial EU states. Very wise idea.

It's 2009, shall we move on?


No Bill, it's not as simple as that and to suggest so is ludicrous and will fool/convince no lone. Remember it wasn't too long ago that the 'impartial' UN stepped aside and allowed the slaughter of 8000 Bosnian men and boys in Srebrenica. Slaughtered by the Serbs who were indirectly assisted their Greek orthodox kinsmen (Greeks broke the UN arms embargo allowing weapons and ammunition to flow to the Serbs).

So, let me just repeat to make it absolutely clear for those that still don't get it...... for the time being there is only one gurantee for the survival and freedoms of the TC's within Cyprus and that is the Turkish Army.

K


(Welcome K)

The damnable events in Srebeniza were in the middle of a hot and active war and only a Propagandist Plonker would suggest they apply to present day Cy which has been pretty peaceful for 35 years.

Anyway can you tell us K whether the thousands of our northern friends who cross the green line each day for work, shopping etc into the Free Areas of the Republic feel so unsafe as to bring with them a contingent of this Jurkish Army to guarantee their safety? When one of our northern sisters goes shopping in Ledra is she surrounded by a platoon of the Jurkish Army?

To my mind those that cross seem to "survive" pretty well.

You also say that this Jurkish Army guarantees the freedoms of the "tcs" K. Might you tell us in what ways the Jurkish Army safeguards the normal democratic rights of our northern community to enjoy such things as freedom of free expression?

Better community relations won't be encouraged by any army, whether from Turkey or anywhere else. Indeed a Turkish one (or a Gr one) promotes only suspision and division.

Bill, please get someone to stand by one of the crossings and ask the TCs crossing over about this subject. If 9.995 out of ten does not agree with what we are saying, I will change my name to Nigoli.


(Hi and welcome Nicoli)

My dear Freddie does it really make any logistical difference to your "safety" whether this great, powerful, largest in Europe, Turkish Army of yours goes back to camps in Adana?

It could be back in Kyrenia with devastating and overwhelming manpower and force in a matter of hours.


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Postby YFred » Tue Mar 10, 2009 3:22 pm

bill cobbett wrote:
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bill cobbett wrote:
Kuruovali wrote:
bill cobbett wrote:A wise member suggested a few days ago (I forget who) an interim Police Force from fellow and impartial EU states. Very wise idea.

It's 2009, shall we move on?


No Bill, it's not as simple as that and to suggest so is ludicrous and will fool/convince no lone. Remember it wasn't too long ago that the 'impartial' UN stepped aside and allowed the slaughter of 8000 Bosnian men and boys in Srebrenica. Slaughtered by the Serbs who were indirectly assisted their Greek orthodox kinsmen (Greeks broke the UN arms embargo allowing weapons and ammunition to flow to the Serbs).

So, let me just repeat to make it absolutely clear for those that still don't get it...... for the time being there is only one gurantee for the survival and freedoms of the TC's within Cyprus and that is the Turkish Army.

K


(Welcome K)

The damnable events in Srebeniza were in the middle of a hot and active war and only a Propagandist Plonker would suggest they apply to present day Cy which has been pretty peaceful for 35 years.

Anyway can you tell us K whether the thousands of our northern friends who cross the green line each day for work, shopping etc into the Free Areas of the Republic feel so unsafe as to bring with them a contingent of this Jurkish Army to guarantee their safety? When one of our northern sisters goes shopping in Ledra is she surrounded by a platoon of the Jurkish Army?

To my mind those that cross seem to "survive" pretty well.

You also say that this Jurkish Army guarantees the freedoms of the "tcs" K. Might you tell us in what ways the Jurkish Army safeguards the normal democratic rights of our northern community to enjoy such things as freedom of free expression?

Better community relations won't be encouraged by any army, whether from Turkey or anywhere else. Indeed a Turkish one (or a Gr one) promotes only suspision and division.

Bill, please get someone to stand by one of the crossings and ask the TCs crossing over about this subject. If 9.995 out of ten does not agree with what we are saying, I will change my name to Nigoli.


(Hi and welcome Nicoli)

My dear Freddie does it really make any logistical difference to your "safety" whether this great, powerful, largest in Europe, Turkish Army of yours goes back to camps in Adana?

It could be back in Kyrenia with devastating and overwhelming manpower and force in a matter of hours.


Am I right or am I right?

I have no problem if the whole of the Turkish Army is removed from the soil of Cyprus. I wish they did. I can then take may english wife to Lurucina legitemately, on a personal note. Lets not confuse the two issues

The Guarantee is another matter.
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Postby Oracle » Tue Mar 10, 2009 3:27 pm

Kuruovali wrote:
bill cobbett wrote:A wise member suggested a few days ago (I forget who) an interim Police Force from fellow and impartial EU states. Very wise idea.

It's 2009, shall we move on?


No Bill, it's not as simple as that and to suggest so is ludicrous and will fool/convince no lone. Remember it wasn't too long ago that the 'impartial' UN stepped aside and allowed the slaughter of 8000 Bosnian men and boys in Srebrenica. Slaughtered by the Serbs who were indirectly assisted their Greek orthodox kinsmen (Greeks broke the UN arms embargo allowing weapons and ammunition to flow to the Serbs).

So, let me just repeat to make it absolutely clear for those that still don't get it...... for the time being there is only one gurantee for the survival and freedoms of the TC's within Cyprus and that is the Turkish Army.

K


If it's guarantees for their safety they are after, perhaps they shouldn't go around invading territory belonging to others, and stealing their property.
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Postby YFred » Tue Mar 10, 2009 3:31 pm

Oracle wrote:
Kuruovali wrote:
bill cobbett wrote:A wise member suggested a few days ago (I forget who) an interim Police Force from fellow and impartial EU states. Very wise idea.

It's 2009, shall we move on?


No Bill, it's not as simple as that and to suggest so is ludicrous and will fool/convince no lone. Remember it wasn't too long ago that the 'impartial' UN stepped aside and allowed the slaughter of 8000 Bosnian men and boys in Srebrenica. Slaughtered by the Serbs who were indirectly assisted their Greek orthodox kinsmen (Greeks broke the UN arms embargo allowing weapons and ammunition to flow to the Serbs).

So, let me just repeat to make it absolutely clear for those that still don't get it...... for the time being there is only one gurantee for the survival and freedoms of the TC's within Cyprus and that is the Turkish Army.

K


If it's guarantees for their safety they are after, perhaps they shouldn't go around invading territory belonging to others, and stealing their property.

Back to the kitchen. I am going to make myself a sandwich with Hellim and domades.
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