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[Paphitis]

Yfred is claiming guranatee rights from Turkey due to a fear of violence from the GC's on a thread entitled Execution of 17 GC's in St Hilarion...and he doesn't for a second consider the irony of this or that the Gc's might have reason to be allergic to such provisions.

DT,
What you are saying is if I start kicking the shit out of you, I don't want that man to come and attack me.

Its very simple, if you do not intend to attack the TCs in the future, why do you fear the guarantee.

Apart from the insult to the sovergnty of my country, Turkey has a tendency to interprt agreements any way it sees fit.

The treaty of guarantee never spoke about partitioning the island and setting up a pseudostate....yet Turkey did it and still claims to have done it in accordance with the treaty of guarantee.

Which means Turkey has preached its contract with the RoC resulting in the Treaty not being worth the paper it is written on.

No it did not, but Turkey solved the one problem that was not addressed in the guaranty because nobody in their right mind would have expected a highly cultured and educated society to turn and attempt to wipe another out. This really is up to you sleeping GCs. The sooner you wake up the sooner we will have peace on this island of ours. With or without the Australians.

What does Australia have to do with Turkey's crimes on Cyprus apart from condemning your war crimes?

The 1571 siege of Nicosia resulted in the death of some 30,000 Cypriots. In 1821, GO priests and Bishops were decapitated. For over 300 years, GCs were over taxed and oppressed. In 1958, the TCs fought against the GCs and their desire for self determination. Finally in 1974, Turkey ethnically cleansed 200,000 GCs, killed 10,000, looted and destroyed our cultural heritage.

When did the GCs try to wipe out the TCs?

In 1963, were the TCs given the choice to leave their land or not.
July 1974 comes to mind. Mr Samson going to play tidlywinks
with the TC's after he wiped out the GC opposition?
If the guarantee is removed, 99.999999% of the TCs will oppose the plan.
That is our double and bold red line.

Don't be so sure. Mr Christofias has made his position on the matter very clear.

There will be no Treaty of Guarantee. The EU will never allow it either.

Sampson was playing with his dick in 74.

[YFred]

Yfred is claiming guranatee rights from Turkey due to a fear of violence from the GC's on a thread entitled Execution of 17 GC's in St Hilarion...and he doesn't for a second consider the irony of this or that the Gc's might have reason to be allergic to such provisions.

DT,
What you are saying is if I start kicking the shit out of you, I don't want that man to come and attack me.

Its very simple, if you do not intend to attack the TCs in the future, why do you fear the guarantee.

Apart from the insult to the sovergnty of my country, Turkey has a tendency to interprt agreements any way it sees fit.

The treaty of guarantee never spoke about partitioning the island and setting up a pseudostate....yet Turkey did it and still claims to have done it in accordance with the treaty of guarantee.

Which means Turkey has preached its contract with the RoC resulting in the Treaty not being worth the paper it is written on.

No it did not, but Turkey solved the one problem that was not addressed in the guaranty because nobody in their right mind would have expected a highly cultured and educated society to turn and attempt to wipe another out. This really is up to you sleeping GCs. The sooner you wake up the sooner we will have peace on this island of ours. With or without the Australians.

What does Australia have to do with Turkey's crimes on Cyprus apart from condemning your war crimes?

The 1571 siege of Nicosia resulted in the death of some 30,000 Cypriots. In 1821, GO priests and Bishops were decapitated. For over 300 years, GCs were over taxed and oppressed. In 1958, the TCs fought against the GCs and their desire for self determination. Finally in 1974, Turkey ethnically cleansed 200,000 GCs, killed 10,000, looted and destroyed our cultural heritage.

When did the GCs try to wipe out the TCs?

In 1963, were the TCs given the choice to leave their land or not.
July 1974 comes to mind. Mr Samson going to play tidlywinks
with the TC's after he wiped out the GC opposition?
If the guarantee is removed, 99.999999% of the TCs will oppose the plan.
That is our double and bold red line.

Don't be so sure. Mr Christofias has made his position on the matter very clear.

There will be no Treaty of Guarantee. The EU will never allow it either.

Sampson was playing with his dick in 74.

You are still not getting it, are you?. If it is not part of the agreement, there will be no agreement. Which bit do you not understand?

[bill cobbett]

A wise member suggested a few days ago (I forget who) an interim Police Force from fellow and impartial EU states. Very wise idea.

It's 2009, shall we move on?

[Paphitis]

Yfred is claiming guranatee rights from Turkey due to a fear of violence from the GC's on a thread entitled Execution of 17 GC's in St Hilarion...and he doesn't for a second consider the irony of this or that the Gc's might have reason to be allergic to such provisions.

DT,
What you are saying is if I start kicking the shit out of you, I don't want that man to come and attack me.

Its very simple, if you do not intend to attack the TCs in the future, why do you fear the guarantee.

Apart from the insult to the sovergnty of my country, Turkey has a tendency to interprt agreements any way it sees fit.

The treaty of guarantee never spoke about partitioning the island and setting up a pseudostate....yet Turkey did it and still claims to have done it in accordance with the treaty of guarantee.

Which means Turkey has preached its contract with the RoC resulting in the Treaty not being worth the paper it is written on.

No it did not, but Turkey solved the one problem that was not addressed in the guaranty because nobody in their right mind would have expected a highly cultured and educated society to turn and attempt to wipe another out. This really is up to you sleeping GCs. The sooner you wake up the sooner we will have peace on this island of ours. With or without the Australians.

What does Australia have to do with Turkey's crimes on Cyprus apart from condemning your war crimes?

The 1571 siege of Nicosia resulted in the death of some 30,000 Cypriots. In 1821, GO priests and Bishops were decapitated. For over 300 years, GCs were over taxed and oppressed. In 1958, the TCs fought against the GCs and their desire for self determination. Finally in 1974, Turkey ethnically cleansed 200,000 GCs, killed 10,000, looted and destroyed our cultural heritage.

When did the GCs try to wipe out the TCs?

In 1963, were the TCs given the choice to leave their land or not.
July 1974 comes to mind. Mr Samson going to play tidlywinks
with the TC's after he wiped out the GC opposition?
If the guarantee is removed, 99.999999% of the TCs will oppose the plan.
That is our double and bold red line.

Don't be so sure. Mr Christofias has made his position on the matter very clear.

There will be no Treaty of Guarantee. The EU will never allow it either.

Sampson was playing with his dick in 74.

You are still not getting it, are you?. If it is not part of the agreement, there will be no agreement. Which bit do you not understand?

Then enjoy your isolation for another 34 years.

As Deniz told you earlier, we will wait and prevail in the end (read Kifeas post).

[Paphitis]

A wise member suggested a few days ago (I forget who) an interim Police Force from fellow and impartial EU states. Very wise idea.

It's 2009, shall we move on?

The TCs don't want to Bill.

[YFred]

Yfred is claiming guranatee rights from Turkey due to a fear of violence from the GC's on a thread entitled Execution of 17 GC's in St Hilarion...and he doesn't for a second consider the irony of this or that the Gc's might have reason to be allergic to such provisions.

DT,
What you are saying is if I start kicking the shit out of you, I don't want that man to come and attack me.

Its very simple, if you do not intend to attack the TCs in the future, why do you fear the guarantee.

Apart from the insult to the sovergnty of my country, Turkey has a tendency to interprt agreements any way it sees fit.

The treaty of guarantee never spoke about partitioning the island and setting up a pseudostate....yet Turkey did it and still claims to have done it in accordance with the treaty of guarantee.

Which means Turkey has preached its contract with the RoC resulting in the Treaty not being worth the paper it is written on.

No it did not, but Turkey solved the one problem that was not addressed in the guaranty because nobody in their right mind would have expected a highly cultured and educated society to turn and attempt to wipe another out. This really is up to you sleeping GCs. The sooner you wake up the sooner we will have peace on this island of ours. With or without the Australians.

What does Australia have to do with Turkey's crimes on Cyprus apart from condemning your war crimes?

The 1571 siege of Nicosia resulted in the death of some 30,000 Cypriots. In 1821, GO priests and Bishops were decapitated. For over 300 years, GCs were over taxed and oppressed. In 1958, the TCs fought against the GCs and their desire for self determination. Finally in 1974, Turkey ethnically cleansed 200,000 GCs, killed 10,000, looted and destroyed our cultural heritage.

When did the GCs try to wipe out the TCs?

In 1963, were the TCs given the choice to leave their land or not.
July 1974 comes to mind. Mr Samson going to play tidlywinks
with the TC's after he wiped out the GC opposition?
If the guarantee is removed, 99.999999% of the TCs will oppose the plan.
That is our double and bold red line.

Don't be so sure. Mr Christofias has made his position on the matter very clear.

There will be no Treaty of Guarantee. The EU will never allow it either.

Sampson was playing with his dick in 74.

You are still not getting it, are you?. If it is not part of the agreement, there will be no agreement. Which bit do you not understand?

Then enjoy your isolation for another 34 years.

As Deniz told you earlier, we will wait and prevail in the end (read Kifeas post).

Yep, as its half way, from now on its down hill. Yavas Yavas. Rome wasn't built in a day.

[bill cobbett]

A wise member suggested a few days ago (I forget who) an interim Police Force from fellow and impartial EU states. Very wise idea.

It's 2009, shall we move on?

The TCs don't want to Bill.

Hi P. Fear you're right. Their alleged view of 63 etc dictates the future and justifies a special treatment or so they claim, one they'll never get.

[YFred]

A wise member suggested a few days ago (I forget who) an interim Police Force from fellow and impartial EU states. Very wise idea.

It's 2009, shall we move on?

The police was not and is not the problem. Just the Army.

[bill cobbett]

A wise member suggested a few days ago (I forget who) an interim Police Force from fellow and impartial EU states. Very wise idea.

It's 2009, shall we move on?

The police was not and is not the problem. Just the Army.

The suggestion for an EU Police Force was to enforce peaceful community relations.

It may be a way forward. Why are you so immediately dismisive?

[YFred]

A wise member suggested a few days ago (I forget who) an interim Police Force from fellow and impartial EU states. Very wise idea.

It's 2009, shall we move on?

The police was not and is not the problem. Just the Army.

The suggestion for an EU Police Force was to enforce peaceful community relations.

It may be a way forward. Why are you so immediately dismisive?

You are opening another can of worms by who will be acceptable?
I prefer Nato - its more inclusive.

The police is fine. The army is the problem. Solve that one and the Cyprus problem is half solved.