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Postby boomerang » Mon Mar 09, 2009 1:00 pm

Conventions and Treaties

Article 16 of the treaty states:

"Turkey hereby renounces all rights and title whatsoever over or respecting the territories situated outside the frontiers laid down in the present Treaty and the islands other than those over which her sovereignty is recognised by the said Treaty, the future of these territories and islands being settled or to be settled by the parties concerned."

Article 20 goes on to say:

"Turkey hereby recognises the annexation of Cyprus proclaimed by the British Government on the 5th November, 1914."

Article 21 continues:

"Turkish nationals ordinarily resident in Cyprus on the 5th November, 1914, will acquire British nationality subject to the conditions laid down in the local law, and will thereupon lose their Turkish nationality. They will, however, have the right to opt for Turkish nationality within two years from the coming into force of the present Treaty, provided that they leave Cyprus within twelve months after having so opted.

Turkish nationals ordinarily resident in Cyprus on the coming into force of the present Treaty who, at that date, have acquired or are in process of acquiring British nationality in consequence of a request made in accordance with the local law, will also thereupon lose their Turkish nationality.

It is understood that the Government of Cyprus will be entitled to refuse British nationality to inhabitants of the island who, being Turkish nationals, had formerly acquired another nationality without the consent of the Turkish Government."

Article 27 concludes:

"No power or jurisdiction in political, legislative or administrative matters shall be exercised outside Turkish territory by the Turkish Government or authorities, for any reason whatsoever, over the nationals of a territory placed under the sovereignty or protectorate of the other Powers signatory of the present Treaty, or over the nationals of a territory detached from Turkey.

It is understood that the spiritual attributions of the Moslem religious authorities are in no way infringed."

http://www.hri.org/docs/lausanne/
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Postby boomerang » Mon Mar 09, 2009 1:01 pm

Convention on the Prevention and Punishment of the Crime of Genocide

Approved and proposed for signature and ratification or accession by General Assembly resolution 260 A (III) of 9 December 1948 entry into force 12 January 1951, in accordance with article XIII status of ratifications, reservations and declarations.

The Contracting Parties,

Having considered the declaration made by the General Assembly of the United Nations in its resolution 96 (I) dated 11 December 1946 that genocide is a crime under international law, contrary to the spirit and aims of the United Nations and condemned by the civilized world,

Recognizing that at all periods of history genocide has inflicted great losses on humanity, and

Being convinced that, in order to liberate mankind from such an odious scourge, international co-operation is required,

Hereby agree as hereinafter provided:

Article 1

The Contracting Parties confirm that genocide, whether committed in time of peace or in time of war, is a crime under international law which they undertake to prevent and to punish.

Article 2

In the present Convention, genocide means any of the following acts committed with intent to destroy, in whole or in part, a national, ethnical, racial or religious group, as such:

(a) Killing members of the group;

(b) Causing serious bodily or mental harm to members of the group;

(c) Deliberately inflicting on the group conditions of life calculated to bring about its physical destruction in whole or in part;

(d) Imposing measures intended to prevent births within the group;

(e) Forcibly transferring children of the group to another group.

Article 3

The following acts shall be punishable:

(a) Genocide;

(b) Conspiracy to commit genocide;

(c) Direct and public incitement to commit genocide;

(d ) Attempt to commit genocide;

(e) Complicity in genocide.

Article 4

Persons committing genocide or any of the other acts enumerated in article III shall be punished, whether they are constitutionally responsible rulers, public officials or private individuals.
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Postby boomerang » Mon Mar 09, 2009 1:02 pm

The 4th Geneva Convention (August 12th 1949)

Section III

Art. 49. Individual or mass forcible transfers, as well as deportations of protected persons from occupied territory to the territory of the Occupying Power or to that of any other country, occupied or not, are prohibited, regardless of their motive.

Nevertheless, the Occupying Power may undertake total or partial evacuation of a given area if the security of the population or imperative military reasons so demand. Such evacuations may not involve the displacement of protected persons outside the bounds of the occupied territory except when for material reasons it is impossible to avoid such displacement. Persons thus evacuated shall be transferred back to their homes as soon as hostilities in the area in question have ceased.



The Occupying Power undertaking such transfers or evacuations shall ensure, to the greatest practicable extent, that proper accommodation is provided to receive the protected persons, that the removals are effected in satisfactory conditions of hygiene, health, safety and nutrition, and that members of the same family are not separated.


The Protecting Power shall be informed of any transfers and evacuations as soon as they have taken place.


The Occupying Power shall not detain protected persons in an area particularly exposed to the dangers of war unless the security of the population or imperative military reasons so demand.


The Occupying Power shall not deport or transfer parts of its own civilian population into the territory it occupies.

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Postby insan » Mon Mar 09, 2009 5:02 pm

So, boomerang... What's wrong with Taksim while u were exerting for Enosis. I see nothing wrong with Taksim under such circumstances. Would u mind to explain us what was wrong with Taksim?
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Postby DT. » Mon Mar 09, 2009 5:06 pm

insan wrote:So, boomerang... What's wrong with Taksim while u were exerting for Enosis. I see nothing wrong with Taksim under such circumstances. Would u mind to explain us what was wrong with Taksim?


Well, we're living taksim right now. Would you like me to list whats wrong with the current situation?
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Postby insan » Mon Mar 09, 2009 5:12 pm

DT. wrote:
insan wrote:So, boomerang... What's wrong with Taksim while u were exerting for Enosis. I see nothing wrong with Taksim under such circumstances. Would u mind to explain us what was wrong with Taksim?


Well, we're living taksim right now. Would you like me to list whats wrong with the current situation?


Feel free to do anything u wish. U have never asked my permission before.
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Postby insan » Mon Mar 09, 2009 5:13 pm

DT. wrote:
insan wrote:So, boomerang... What's wrong with Taksim while u were exerting for Enosis. I see nothing wrong with Taksim under such circumstances. Would u mind to explain us what was wrong with Taksim?


Well, we're living taksim right now. Would you like me to list whats wrong with the current situation?


Feel free to do anything u wish. U have never asked my permission before.
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Postby DT. » Mon Mar 09, 2009 5:13 pm

insan wrote:
DT. wrote:
insan wrote:So, boomerang... What's wrong with Taksim while u were exerting for Enosis. I see nothing wrong with Taksim under such circumstances. Would u mind to explain us what was wrong with Taksim?


Well, we're living taksim right now. Would you like me to list whats wrong with the current situation?


Feel free to do anything u wish. U have never asked my permission before.


ok, let me ask you this. Whats wrong with the present situation?(i.e taksim)
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Postby insan » Mon Mar 09, 2009 5:51 pm

DT. wrote:
insan wrote:
DT. wrote:
insan wrote:So, boomerang... What's wrong with Taksim while u were exerting for Enosis. I see nothing wrong with Taksim under such circumstances. Would u mind to explain us what was wrong with Taksim?


Well, we're living taksim right now. Would you like me to list whats wrong with the current situation?


Feel free to do anything u wish. U have never asked my permission before.


ok, let me ask you this. Whats wrong with the present situation?(i.e taksim)


All concerned parties put effort to solve Cyprus problem one way or another for decades. Even under British rule the situation was almost same. It is clearly seen that there has been no solution plan that would satsify vast majority of all concerned parties. Under current circumstances; it is obvious for us TCs that let alone federation even confederation is not considered viable according to latest TC polls. Majority of TCs want 2 sperate states and will struggle for this cause till it is achieved by fair means or foul.
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Postby Piratis » Mon Mar 09, 2009 5:54 pm

insan wrote:
DT. wrote:
insan wrote:
DT. wrote:
insan wrote:So, boomerang... What's wrong with Taksim while u were exerting for Enosis. I see nothing wrong with Taksim under such circumstances. Would u mind to explain us what was wrong with Taksim?


Well, we're living taksim right now. Would you like me to list whats wrong with the current situation?


Feel free to do anything u wish. U have never asked my permission before.


ok, let me ask you this. Whats wrong with the present situation?(i.e taksim)


All concerned parties put effort to solve Cyprus problem one way or another for decades. Even under British rule the situation was almost same. It is clearly seen that there has been no solution plan that would satsify vast majority of all concerned parties. Under current circumstances; it is obvious for us TCs that let alone federation even confederation is not considered viable according to latest TC polls. Majority of TCs want 2 sperate states and will struggle for this cause till it is achieved by fair means or foul.


What you want is really irrelevant. What is relevant is what you have the right for. If you want a Ferrari this doesn't mean you have any right to go and steal one. Similarly, you can not have a separate state by stealing land from us.
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