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[boomerang]

If you ask me if gabiras dad did this instead of this the world would have been a happier place

[DT.]

As far as I am concerned, this whole article could be fabricated.

Naturally, Oracle's convenient diversions to the irrelevant Armenian issues is laughable. Turkeys internal problems has nothing to do with this article.

The only moron here is your mother's son Boom Boom

your brain has nothing to do with his thread either gabira. Get off you're embarassing your fellow tc's.

The funerals yesturday were fabricated as well. The eye witness account of George Liasis who was also shot on te firing squad as well but survived and left for dead.

[Viewpoint]

As i told previously, u should have prayed that Turkish army hadn't launched a 3rd phase of intervention in order to ward off all those EOKA-B guerillas.

It's the Turkish Cypriots that had comitted these attrocities and many others in 1974.

And by the same token...YOU should pray that the National Guard doesn't turn Kyrenia into glass in the future with all this incriminating evidence being dug up all the time, and the treasonous games your foolish leaders STILL keep playing despite the fact that they can’t even afford to buy a new pair of knickers, let alone play "power games"!

I'm not trying to justify what some groups of TC extremists or idiots or lunatics did but most probably the 11 years lasted, "RoC" originated physical and psychologic oppression caused them to went berserk. How else could it be explained? Could a mentally healthy person commit such an atrocity?

Then I hope you can understand the psychological condition of the native Cypriot people after being oppressed and murdered by the 10s of thousands by foreign invaders for centuries.

If you think that because you suffered for a decade during a conflict which you started in 1958, that gives you the right to kill 1000s, ethnically cleanse 100s of thousands and steal our lands, then I hope you will give the same excuse, multiplied by 30, to the native Cypriots who suffered under your oppressive rule not for 10 but for 300 years.

So if one action can excuse a reaction, then who is to blame is the one who started it all. And that is the Turks, in 1571, when the attacked and oppressed Cypriots for centuries, without previously the Cypriots harming the Turks in any way.

I acknowledge ur rightousness to a degree. However we had really no other options. Either we would accept minority status and let ourselves into a darksome future in our homeland Cyprus or we would struggle to create ourselves a safe territory to survive by fair means or foul.

What you say does not excuse you initial attack and the first 300 years of oppression against us though. It really was not our fault that your minority was created on our island and that you could not accept that Cyprus could be ruled democratically.

Furthermore your survival was not under threat. I many times gave you the Turkish minority of Rhodes as an example. Rhodes united with Greece in 1947 and the Turkish minority was not annihilated as your imaginary scenarios would have as believe.

Just like Cyprus was under the Ottoman and later British empires, against the will of Cypriots and with Cypriots being the subjects of those empires, instead Cyprus would be part of the Greek Republic, and Cypriots equal citizens of the Greek Republic, something that the vast majority of Cypriots wanted. GCs, TCs and the other minorities would continue to live in Cyprus just like they did under British or Ottoman Empires. (without you having any Ottoman Style privileges on our expense of course)

So don't create baseless unrealistic scenarios in order to excuse your attacks against us.

Could you please supply population figures of Turks in both Rhodes and Crete after the became part of Greece.

[denizaksulu]

Where is Halil to make 22 separate posts for the funerals of those people and then for their memorial every year, just to remind everybody how bad the Turks are? Oh,I almost forgot. He only wants to say how bad the GCs are. The Turks killed many 10000s of GCs and they lost only some 100s of their own. And non of these would have happened if the Turks had not came to our island!

Shut up Sotos. We are bad as each other. The criminal element is within each community.

May those innocents rest in peace. I hope the guilty will meet their punishments before it is too late.

yeah deniz, how come you sit there and say nothing when the man from bayarak posts and suddendly explode with the bad as each other from a single post...very fair....NOT

Just tell me if the blouze you wear comes in man's sizes...bloody hell...

Should I say welcome back? Probably yes. Did I make a false statement? Bloody hell!!

[Gabira]

Is it not possible that what Liasis 'saw' and told your people is different to what 'possibly' actually happened ?

"After the executions, the perpetrators took Andreas Souppouris' car and drove away. Later, a Turkish Army officer, apparently the area military commander, arrived. He gathered the four wounded, ordered that they be given medical care, and ordered that the dead be buried in an olive grove."

Was it the 15 year old Liasis who so vividly identified the 'area military commander' and his position in the military ? Was it "apparently" a Turkish Army officer ... the area military commander or not ?

How does a 15 year old know this information ? Is it possible that somebody told Liasis who it 'should' be ?

[Viewpoint]

There are horrific stories from both sides and we all feel saddened and sick you wouldnt be human if you didnt feel dissapointment and sadness. Surely the GCs should also look towards their own eoka "heros" for answers of why they caused such a horrific mess, surely they should hold them accountable why they wanted to disturb a peaceful island where there 2 communities should have been busy building bridges not destroying them.

[boomerang]

Where is Halil to make 22 separate posts for the funerals of those people and then for their memorial every year, just to remind everybody how bad the Turks are? Oh,I almost forgot. He only wants to say how bad the GCs are. The Turks killed many 10000s of GCs and they lost only some 100s of their own. And non of these would have happened if the Turks had not came to our island!

Shut up Sotos. We are bad as each other. The criminal element is within each community.

May those innocents rest in peace. I hope the guilty will meet their punishments before it is too late.

yeah deniz, how come you sit there and say nothing when the man from bayarak posts and suddendly explode with the bad as each other from a single post...very fair....NOT

Just tell me if the blouze you wear comes in man's sizes...bloody hell...

Should I say welcome back? Probably yes. Did I make a false statement? Bloody hell!!

thanks...just a tiny one...

but about the blouze?

[Gabira]

Well summed up VP, until all culprits are acknowledge and brought to justice so the real truths can be exposed, these stories will be highly emotive. Unfortunately, until the truths are exposed, stories like this will continue to be misused based on 'benefit of doubt'.

The real agenda behind this posting like every other post from the same vindictive GC circle here is certainly not of any good faith.

[boomerang]

Is it not possible that what Liasis 'saw' and told your people is different to what 'possibly' actually happened ?

"After the executions, the perpetrators took Andreas Souppouris' car and drove away. Later, a Turkish Army officer, apparently the area military commander, arrived. He gathered the four wounded, ordered that they be given medical care, and ordered that the dead be buried in an olive grove."

Was it the 15 year old Liasis who so vividly identified the 'area military commander' and his position in the military ? Was it "apparently" a Turkish Army officer ... the area military commander or not ?

How does a 15 year old know this information ? Is it possible that somebody told Liasis who it 'should' be ?

oh it makes as much sence as the eyewitness to the bath tub murders...the eyewitness eating sweets...and no bullet holes in the bathroom apart from the bodies...go figure...some eyewitness ha?

[boomerang]

Well summed up VP, until all culprits are acknowledge and brought to justice so the real truths can be exposed, these stories will be highly emotive. Unfortunately, until the truths are exposed, stories like this will continue to be misused based on 'benefit of doubt'.

The real agenda behind this posting like every other post from the same vindictive GC circle here is certainly not of any good faith.

first paragraph I agree...

the second is the same as the ones from Mr Bayarak...horseshit to the max...