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insan, if you want the roots, here they are:



And if you want to look even deeper:

In the summer of 1570, the Turks struck again, but this time with a full-scale invasion rather than a raid. About 60,000 troops, including cavalry and artillery, under the command of Lala Mustafa Pasha landed unopposed near Limassol on July 2, 1570, and laid siege to Nicosia. In an orgy of victory on the day that the city fell--September 9, 1570--20,000 Nicosians were put to death, and every church, public building, and palace was looted.

This is not proof that this is the start of the troubles, all this is a moment n time that happen to be documented.

[miltiades]

May I also ask the author of this thread what exactly is the purpose of posting this article , is it to assist the Cypriot people to come together for the benefit of our future generations , forgive and forget and live peacefully on this island , or is it to perpetuate the hatred mistrust and the Eric Daye , VP philosophy that our people can never live together in peace therefore the presence of the occupying army SHALL continue ?
Lets now have the Eric Dayes version of events , let us now see other inflammatory stories let us make sure that hatred is nourished . Mr Author of this thread ., you are an irresponsible baffoon with highly damaging views to the Cypriot cause which must be the liberation of our island's occupied lands , the reunification of our island and the coexistence in peace of all Cypriots.
Turkey is highly unlikely to remove one single soldier for as long as there are people such as you who consider their duty , erroneously , the spreading of more hatred.
Just in case you misunderstand me , let me make it very clear. It was extremists such as you from both sides of the divide who were responsible for the horrific events that took place . I suggest you give YOUR COMPUTER back right now .

ffs milti...I can't help wonder for the life of me if your brain is from another fucking planet...

The fuckwit from bayarak litters the forum with shit and you sit there and say fucking nothing as if your mouth is stitched up...

here...feast on this and start asking questions...

http://www.cyprus-forum.com/cyprus22330.html&highlight=

http://www.cyprus-forum.com/cyprus22276.html&highlight=

http://www.cyprus-forum.com/cyprus22134.html&highlight=

http://www.cyprus-forum.com/cyprus21881.html&highlight=

http://www.cyprus-forum.com/cyprus21653.html&highlight=

http://www.cyprus-forum.com/cyprus21351.html&highlight=

http://www.cyprus-forum.com/cyprus21230.html&highlight=

http://www.cyprus-forum.com/cyprus20964.html&highlight=

http://www.cyprus-forum.com/cyprus20665.html&highlight=

and there are a lot more...just couldn't be fucked posting them...

Milti the forum is littered with these posts from bayarak and you say fucking nothing...

Put a fucking sock in it willya..I thought of being kind to you by correcting you before GR starts raining on you...

GR I didn't wanna steal your thunder as I promised myself not to post anymore, but couldn't put up with any more embarrasment...sorry mate...

Last post from me, and milti please go ahead, be my quest and have the last say...

Starting with you mate , below is a post on my thread Politically Irresponsible Cypriots of February the 21st.
I think you have totally misunderstood , misread an misinterpreted my post in response to GRs post on this thread. Suffice for me to say that if proof was needed that certain members of this forum DO NOT WANT RECONCILIATION , then this thread along with all those that rushed to bite my head of for suggesting that maybe is fucking time we burried the hatchet , took our arses out of our cesspot and concentrated on rapproachment with our compatriots , and they with us.
The incessant "recollection " of horrific events that occured in the past serves only to inflame passions , increase non tolerance and provide the partitionists with the utmost of reasons as why our island should remain divided.
Jumping down my throat mate does not for one second dictate my views, which are that for as long as we are prepared , G/Cs and T/Cs to continue with highlighting the past atrocities , our nation will continue to be divided and the consequences of which would be dire for the entire island , Turkey introducing more and more settlers , and its f..k all you or any one else can do about it , so sooner or later the population of the occupied part will be far greater than the population of the RoC.
The T/Cs DO NOT like the settlers any more than you do but they would rather have Turkish settlers than G/C extremists who have no empathy or forgiveness in their hearts.
Yes we suffered and yes they suffered , what is the purpose of a continued barrage of reminders of the horrific acts that took place in the past.
HERE IS MY POST OF FEB 21ST- DO PLEASE TELL ME WHERE DO YOU SEE
INCONSISTENCIES OR THAT I'M FROM ANOTHER PLANET !
After almost 3 years and over 7000 posts on the CF , I cant help but feel despondent that there are so many Cypriots that are so hopelessly irresponsible in approaching the Cyprus problem in political terms.
Our goal , that of the G/Cs , T/Cs and others must surely be the unification of our island , the permanent removal of conflict , mistrust and damaging doctrines , and of course the removal of foreign troops from our shores and the introduction of a durable " constitution" where all citizens feel part of the national heart of Cyprus.
I have in the past referred to the adverse and damaging affects of the two protagonist foreign nations , Greece and Turkey , firmly convinced in my beliefs that until our motherland becomes Cyprus , our supreme nation , then regretfully spores of conflict will continue to grow , untreated and nourished by the politically irresponsible elements within our society .

What are the primary concerns facing the majority of Cypriots ?
Security must rank high , removal of foreign troops even higher but also trust and confidence that a Cypriot government will be for the benefit of each and every single Cypriot citizen , a government that will address the concerns of its citizens , a government that will embark on a sustained and a lengthy drive to unite our people socially as well as politically .

There are amongst us Cypriots who spread the seeds of disunity , who continually declare their unwillingness to be a part of this nation , yet they demand a say in our nations affairs !!

I'm despondent and angry that intelligent , well educated individuals are totally oblivious of the damage they may be causing to the Cyprus cause by their display of hatred towards nations that have so much influence on the desired outcome of our struggle to be totally independent and free of foreign unwelcome interference . The interests of our nation in its hour of need are of extreme paramount importance. Our focus has to be towards the interests of our nation , first and foremost.
What is of interest to Cyprus we must zealously pursue , we are far too small and insignificant in the International world political spectrum and affiliating ourselves with other politically ineffective nations is detrimental to the interests of our nation.

The T/Cs are an integral part of this island . Cyprus is as much theirs as ours . Accepting this profound factuality and implementing social changes to embrace realities can only be substantially beneficial to the well being of all Cypriots and more importantly to our new Cypriot generations.

May I finish by adding an "arbitrary " comment on those who constantly refer to the conflicts of the 60s and 74. Let go , repetition constantly does not change one iota of events that are now well behind us.
We are a European nation an EU member , lets encourage our T/C brothers and sisters to join us as free and equal citizens of the nation of Cyprus. """


_________________
No occupier ruled Cyprus forever , Cyprus is ours.The Cypriots.In Cyprus we are the innkeepers,the occupiers the travellers...
"AFRICA"

[miltiades]

May I also ask the author of this thread what exactly is the purpose of posting this article , is it to assist the Cypriot people to come together for the benefit of our future generations , forgive and forget and live peacefully on this island , or is it to perpetuate the hatred mistrust and the Eric Daye , VP philosophy that our people can never live together in peace therefore the presence of the occupying army SHALL continue ?
Lets now have the Eric Dayes version of events , let us now see other inflammatory stories let us make sure that hatred is nourished . Mr Author of this thread ., you are an irresponsible baffoon with highly damaging views to the Cypriot cause which must be the liberation of our island's occupied lands , the reunification of our island and the coexistence in peace of all Cypriots.
Turkey is highly unlikely to remove one single soldier for as long as there are people such as you who consider their duty , erroneously , the spreading of more hatred.
Just in case you misunderstand me , let me make it very clear. It was extremists such as you from both sides of the divide who were responsible for the horrific events that took place . I suggest you give YOUR COMPUTER back right now .

ffs milti...I can't help wonder for the life of me if your brain is from another fucking planet...

The fuckwit from bayarak litters the forum with shit and you sit there and say fucking nothing as if your mouth is stitched up...

here...feast on this and start asking questions...

http://www.cyprus-forum.com/cyprus22330.html&highlight=

http://www.cyprus-forum.com/cyprus22276.html&highlight=

http://www.cyprus-forum.com/cyprus22134.html&highlight=

http://www.cyprus-forum.com/cyprus21881.html&highlight=

http://www.cyprus-forum.com/cyprus21653.html&highlight=

http://www.cyprus-forum.com/cyprus21351.html&highlight=

http://www.cyprus-forum.com/cyprus21230.html&highlight=

http://www.cyprus-forum.com/cyprus20964.html&highlight=

http://www.cyprus-forum.com/cyprus20665.html&highlight=

and there are a lot more...just couldn't be fucked posting them...

Milti the forum is littered with these posts from bayarak and you say fucking nothing...

Put a fucking sock in it willya..I thought of being kind to you by correcting you before GR starts raining on you...

GR I didn't wanna steal your thunder as I promised myself not to post anymore, but couldn't put up with any more embarrasment...sorry mate...

Last post from me, and milti please go ahead, be my quest and have the last say...

Starting with you mate , below is a post on my thread Politically Irresponsible Cypriots of February the 21st.
I think you have totally misunderstood , misread an misinterpreted my post in response to GRs post on this thread. Suffice for me to say that if proof was needed that certain members of this forum DO NOT WANT RECONCILIATION , then this thread along with all those that rushed to bite my head of for suggesting that maybe is fucking time we burried the hatchet , took our arses out of our cesspot and concentrated on rapproachment with our compatriots , and they with us.
The incessant "recollection " of horrific events that occured in the past serves only to inflame passions , increase non tolerance and provide the partitionists with the utmost of reasons as why our island should remain divided.
Jumping down my throat mate does not for one second dictate my views, which are that for as long as we are prepared , G/Cs and T/Cs to continue with highlighting the past atrocities , our nation will continue to be divided and the consequences of which would be dire for the entire island , Turkey introducing more and more settlers , and its f..k all you or any one else can do about it , so sooner or later the population of the occupied part will be far greater than the population of the RoC.
The T/Cs DO NOT like the settlers any more than you do but they would rather have Turkish settlers than G/C extremists who have no empathy or forgiveness in their hearts.
Yes we suffered and yes they suffered , what is the purpose of a continued barrage of reminders of the horrific acts that took place in the past.
HERE IS MY POST OF FEB 21ST- DO PLEASE TELL ME WHERE DO YOU SEE
INCONSISTENCIES OR THAT I'M FROM ANOTHER PLANET !
After almost 3 years and over 7000 posts on the CF , I cant help but feel despondent that there are so many Cypriots that are so hopelessly irresponsible in approaching the Cyprus problem in political terms.
Our goal , that of the G/Cs , T/Cs and others must surely be the unification of our island , the permanent removal of conflict , mistrust and damaging doctrines , and of course the removal of foreign troops from our shores and the introduction of a durable " constitution" where all citizens feel part of the national heart of Cyprus.
I have in the past referred to the adverse and damaging affects of the two protagonist foreign nations , Greece and Turkey , firmly convinced in my beliefs that until our motherland becomes Cyprus , our supreme nation , then regretfully spores of conflict will continue to grow , untreated and nourished by the politically irresponsible elements within our society .

What are the primary concerns facing the majority of Cypriots ?
Security must rank high , removal of foreign troops even higher but also trust and confidence that a Cypriot government will be for the benefit of each and every single Cypriot citizen , a government that will address the concerns of its citizens , a government that will embark on a sustained and a lengthy drive to unite our people socially as well as politically .

There are amongst us Cypriots who spread the seeds of disunity , who continually declare their unwillingness to be a part of this nation , yet they demand a say in our nations affairs !!

I'm despondent and angry that intelligent , well educated individuals are totally oblivious of the damage they may be causing to the Cyprus cause by their display of hatred towards nations that have so much influence on the desired outcome of our struggle to be totally independent and free of foreign unwelcome interference . The interests of our nation in its hour of need are of extreme paramount importance. Our focus has to be towards the interests of our nation , first and foremost.
What is of interest to Cyprus we must zealously pursue , we are far too small and insignificant in the International world political spectrum and affiliating ourselves with other politically ineffective nations is detrimental to the interests of our nation.

The T/Cs are an integral part of this island . Cyprus is as much theirs as ours . Accepting this profound factuality and implementing social changes to embrace realities can only be substantially beneficial to the well being of all Cypriots and more importantly to our new Cypriot generations.

May I finish by adding an "arbitrary " comment on those who constantly refer to the conflicts of the 60s and 74. Let go , repetition constantly does not change one iota of events that are now well behind us.
We are a European nation an EU member , lets encourage our T/C brothers and sisters to join us as free and equal citizens of the nation of Cyprus. """


_________________
No occupier ruled Cyprus forever , Cyprus is ours.The Cypriots.In Cyprus we are the innkeepers,the occupiers the travellers...
"AFRICA"

[miltiades]

May I also ask the author of this thread what exactly is the purpose of posting this article , is it to assist the Cypriot people to come together for the benefit of our future generations , forgive and forget and live peacefully on this island , or is it to perpetuate the hatred mistrust and the Eric Daye , VP philosophy that our people can never live together in peace therefore the presence of the occupying army SHALL continue ?
Lets now have the Eric Dayes version of events , let us now see other inflammatory stories let us make sure that hatred is nourished . Mr Author of this thread ., you are an irresponsible baffoon with highly damaging views to the Cypriot cause which must be the liberation of our island's occupied lands , the reunification of our island and the coexistence in peace of all Cypriots.
Turkey is highly unlikely to remove one single soldier for as long as there are people such as you who consider their duty , erroneously , the spreading of more hatred.
Just in case you misunderstand me , let me make it very clear. It was extremists such as you from both sides of the divide who were responsible for the horrific events that took place . I suggest you give YOUR COMPUTER back right now .

Your talking rubbish now Milti and your hatred towards GR is blinding you against the atrocities that were committed on this island from the peace loving turkish troops that came on this island to save us all. You know, the ones Dayi & Co tell us about day in and day out that we left our homes voluntarilly and not by the barrel of the gun. The lies that Gc crooks were pillaging the island while the tc's were only defending themselves.....how? By abducting families of civilians and placing them in front of a firing squad?

Politis writes today about the eye witness accounts of 4 tc's (2 in Kyrenia and 2 in Nicosia) who know what happened to the 17 people slaughtered at St Hillarion. They know who did it and some of these cross over to the south frequently. Should we close our eyes to all this? Should we close our eyes to the fact that 100's of tourists take pictures of the castle every day and underneath their feet lie buried 17 GC's in the bottom of a well?

THis isn't the way, the saga that the only evil committed against the GC's was the peace operation of 74 by Turkey and that all intercommunal fighting was done by EOKA B elements while the poor tc's were somply defending themselves must be brought out to the open. And you and the govt can brush this under the carpet all you like but the families of Sappouris and Liasis will remember how their relatives got wiped out.

We always say, there were bastards on both sides of he divide, how long are we going to excuse them for?

DT , you know exactly where I stand and you are fully conversant with my commitment to a united Cyprus and the process required to achieve this goal.
I refer you to my last post , before this , on this thread.

[miltiades]

GR I didn't wanna steal your thunder as I promised myself not to post anymore, but couldn't put up with any more embarrasment...sorry mate...

You’re not stealing anything from me Boomers, on the contrary… by remaining silent while this uneducated cockroach keeps undermining Cyprus, the plight of the oppressed, and international justice, you can only assist him with his perversions.

Welcome back…

You lack both the intellectual capability and the required common sense , buffoons dont have much , to take me on .
You are a spent force and utterly useless to the Cyprus cause . When a man boasts that should an agreement by the legally and democratically elected president of Cyprus be negotiated that is contrary to his views , his intention is to take 15 reservists and start a bloody revolution , that man can be described as a bloody lunatic.
Go to hell ignorant buffoon , Cyprus ain't yours to mess it up , there are thousands of true Cypriots ready to kick your arse and send you on your way to Palestine , Afghanistan or Iraq where your full potential can be ..exploded to its sky high limits .

[YFred]

GR I didn't wanna steal your thunder as I promised myself not to post anymore, but couldn't put up with any more embarrasment...sorry mate...

You’re not stealing anything from me Boomers, on the contrary… by remaining silent while this uneducated cockroach keeps undermining Cyprus, the plight of the oppressed, and international justice, you can only assist him with his perversions.

Welcome back…

You lack both the intellectual capability and the required common sense , buffoons dont have much , to take me on .
You are a spent force and utterly useless to the Cyprus cause . When a man boasts that should an agreement by the legally and democratically elected president of Cyprus be negotiated that is contrary to his views , his intention is to take 15 reservists and start a bloody revolution , that man can be described as a bloody lunatic.
Go to hell ignorant buffoon , Cyprus ain't yours to mess it up , there are thousands of true Cypriots ready to kick your arse and send you on your way to Palestine , Afghanistan or Iraq where your full potential can be ..exploded to its sky high limits .

Ditto.

[Get Real!]

Miltiades, you’re having a nervous breakdown because everything you’ve ever believed in is crumbling before your very eyes…

1. The Anglo-American push for an undemocratic political arrangement favoring the enemies of Cyprus is disintegrating.

2. The American, British, and Israeli war criminals are scattering like mice in the face of international justice now that the real global terrorists have been exposed.

3. Russia, Iran, and Korea, are getting stronger by the month bringing about the much needed global military balance, while the utterly humiliated US is crumbling to pieces unable to even force their perverted version of “freedom” on a rag-tag Afghan army of camel riders armed with Muskets!

4. And finally you detest that, by supporting war crimes, inhibiting international justice, betraying your alleged country, and exposing your real demonic character, has ultimately relegated you to the forum’s harlot to be used and abused by all and sundry.

May the good Lord have mercy on your terrible soul even though you don’t deserve it…

[repulsewarrior]

... 'we' stayed, and were made to disappear. 'they' made the oil press a museum, our neighbours still cry and tell us of the misery...

...but what do i know, i come from a "mixed" village.

not "Greeks", not "Turks" who suffer, but Cypriots.

[insan]

Miltiades, you’re having a nervous breakdown because everything you’ve ever believed in is crumbling before your very eyes…


3. Russia, Iran, and Korea, are getting stronger by the month bringing about the much needed global military balance, while the utterly humiliated US is crumbling to pieces unable to even force their perverted version of “freedom” on a rag-tag Afghan army of camel riders armed with Muskets!

If US crumbles into pieces that would follow the crumbling of EU in the meantime. Where would u put Turkey and Cyprus in such a case? How such a case would affect the new world order?

[Get Real!]

Miltiades, you’re having a nervous breakdown because everything you’ve ever believed in is crumbling before your very eyes…


3. Russia, Iran, and Korea, are getting stronger by the month bringing about the much needed global military balance, while the utterly humiliated US is crumbling to pieces unable to even force their perverted version of “freedom” on a rag-tag Afghan army of camel riders armed with Muskets!

If US crumbles into pieces that would follow the crumbling of EU in the meantime. Where would u put Turkey and Cyprus in such a case? How such a case would affect the new world order?

To answer your question I would have to accept your shortsighted prediction for Europe.