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400 pages of CIA report regarding Cyprus 1973-76

How can we solve it? (keep it civilized)

Postby insan » Mon Mar 09, 2009 7:34 pm

Jerry wrote:
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U don't even worth a reply Turk hater staphilynoidea. Crap is ur brain that is not even aware of the roots of the problem. The struggle for Enosis began in 1821. Was it initiated because of the majority of population was Greek. No. The then motives behind Enosis was "Megali Idea". Even today there r some political groups still running after "Megali Idea" and these political groups r particularly organized among diaspora Greeks
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If I "don't even worth a reply Turk hater staphilynoidea" so why do you bother.

Once again you make a false assumption, I am not a Turk hater. I hate what Turkey, the Turkish government and its armed forces have done to Cyprus, I do not hate individual Turks.

Idiots like you live in the past. Both sides have issues with each other, both have sinned and been sinned against, the difference today is that too many Turks and Turkish Cypriots wish to wish to perpetuate the sins of history by hanging onto their illegal gains and yet expect the world to feel sorry for them.


Look idiot retard! It's u that making false assumption. Talking or discussing something happened in the past; does not mean that person lives in the past. If it means something like that; then when that person talks or discuss something abt future, u would have to make another false assumption that the person lives in the future. R u aware of how ridiculous u r. The problem for me is self determination right of GCs VS self determination right of TCs. Got it? Since there's no homogenous single people in Cyprus and when the problem initiated the TC population of Cyprus was 1/3 of total population; the Cyprus problem has to be solved on the axis of either the common consociational self-determination right of 2 communities or 2 seperate states. Hope u get it, calmly; the ultimate truth and knowledge center Jerry the staphilynoidea.


Sorry, I'm having difficulty understanding what you are trying to say. Perhaps you should post it in your native tongue and ask someone to translate.

BTW, I do appreciate the fact that you have bothered to reply.


:lol: U r avoiding to reply with something sensible by hiding urself behind an assumption that what I wrote above is not understandable. :lol:
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Postby Jerry » Mon Mar 09, 2009 7:53 pm

insan wrote:
Jerry wrote:
insan wrote:
Jerry wrote:
U don't even worth a reply Turk hater staphilynoidea. Crap is ur brain that is not even aware of the roots of the problem. The struggle for Enosis began in 1821. Was it initiated because of the majority of population was Greek. No. The then motives behind Enosis was "Megali Idea". Even today there r some political groups still running after "Megali Idea" and these political groups r particularly organized among diaspora Greeks
.

If I "don't even worth a reply Turk hater staphilynoidea" so why do you bother.

Once again you make a false assumption, I am not a Turk hater. I hate what Turkey, the Turkish government and its armed forces have done to Cyprus, I do not hate individual Turks.

Idiots like you live in the past. Both sides have issues with each other, both have sinned and been sinned against, the difference today is that too many Turks and Turkish Cypriots wish to wish to perpetuate the sins of history by hanging onto their illegal gains and yet expect the world to feel sorry for them.


Look idiot retard! It's u that making false assumption. Talking or discussing something happened in the past; does not mean that person lives in the past. If it means something like that; then when that person talks or discuss something abt future, u would have to make another false assumption that the person lives in the future. R u aware of how ridiculous u r. The problem for me is self determination right of GCs VS self determination right of TCs. Got it? Since there's no homogenous single people in Cyprus and when the problem initiated the TC population of Cyprus was 1/3 of total population; the Cyprus problem has to be solved on the axis of either the common consociational self-determination right of 2 communities or 2 seperate states. Hope u get it, calmly; the ultimate truth and knowledge center Jerry the staphilynoidea.


Sorry, I'm having difficulty understanding what you are trying to say. Perhaps you should post it in your native tongue and ask someone to translate.

BTW, I do appreciate the fact that you have bothered to reply.


:lol: U r avoiding to reply with something sensible by hiding urself behind an assumption that what I wrote above is not understandable. :lol:


I think you mean:- You are avoiding a sensible reply because you pretend not to understand me.

I understood that OK but I can't be bothered to decipher you previous post.
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Postby wyoming cowboy » Tue Mar 10, 2009 10:09 pm

My point is that Sampson would not have lasted long enough to do anything, the junta would have fallen very fast with a civil war in cyprus and he would have been gone, as much as you hate sampson there are many Greek cyp who hated him just as much..
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wyoming cowboy wrote:well just by reading the article aprubove it clearly shows that Turkey had no right of intervention in Cyprus for Makarios had no interest in union with Greece, and if he received 95 percent of the vote it clearly shows that the vast majority of Greek cyps did not aspire towards enosis, therefore Turkey's claims that enosis was eminent are rediculous


Just for ur information. Makarios was withdrawn and escaped outside of Cyprus. On the other hand report states that the ultimate aim of Makarios was Enosis but not under 1974's circumstances.

Do u think the aim of fierce Turk hater, fascist Sampson was to bring peace and a just solution to Cyprus?
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Postby YFred » Tue Mar 10, 2009 10:16 pm

halil wrote:People are keep saying that during the coup that there was no danger for TC's ..... below writing is taken out from the UNICYP web sides. It says very clear that in 15 july there was a gun fire towards the Turkish sector of the Nicosia ! UN claims that we were well protected .... I hope they were right !

On 15 July, as soon as the coup d'état was reported, UNFICYP was brought to a high state of readiness. Additional liaison officers were deployed at all levels, and increased observation was maintained throughout the island in all areas of likely intercommunal confrontation. Special measures were taken to ensure the security of the Turkish Cypriot community. A few cases of firing into the Turkish enclave north of Nicosia were reported; the firing was stopped through liaison with the National Guard.

http://www.unficyp.org/nqcontent.cfm?a_ ... ic&lang=l1

Did I hear somebody mention a few shots, they lined up the tanks to wipe out Lurucina, Who are you people trying to kid, that sampson had no intention to hurt TCs.
If it wasn't so serious it would be hilarious.
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Postby insan » Tue Mar 10, 2009 10:27 pm

wyoming cowboy wrote:My point is that Sampson would not have lasted long enough to do anything, the junta would have fallen very fast with a civil war in cyprus and he would have been gone, as much as you hate sampson there are many Greek cyp who hated him just as much..
insan wrote:
wyoming cowboy wrote:well just by reading the article aprubove it clearly shows that Turkey had no right of intervention in Cyprus for Makarios had no interest in union with Greece, and if he received 95 percent of the vote it clearly shows that the vast majority of Greek cyps did not aspire towards enosis, therefore Turkey's claims that enosis was eminent are rediculous


Just for ur information. Makarios was withdrawn and escaped outside of Cyprus. On the other hand report states that the ultimate aim of Makarios was Enosis but not under 1974's circumstances.

Do u think the aim of fierce Turk hater, fascist Sampson was to bring peace and a just solution to Cyprus?


Even though Sampson resigned; irregulars of EOKA-B guerillas were still active and threatining Makarios with a 10 point of manifesto in December 1974. Let alone arrestment of those EOKA-B guerillas; no one dared to say something against them until 1976 that Makarios had to grant an amnesty for them. Those EOKA-B irregulars would never surrender to so-called RoC authorities. They would have caused 10 times much more blodshed to whom engaged a guerilla warfare against them then they caused to Brits during 1955-59 guerilla warfare.
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Postby bill cobbett » Tue Mar 10, 2009 10:30 pm

YFred wrote:
halil wrote:People are keep saying that during the coup that there was no danger for TC's ..... below writing is taken out from the UNICYP web sides. It says very clear that in 15 july there was a gun fire towards the Turkish sector of the Nicosia ! UN claims that we were well protected .... I hope they were right !

On 15 July, as soon as the coup d'état was reported, UNFICYP was brought to a high state of readiness. Additional liaison officers were deployed at all levels, and increased observation was maintained throughout the island in all areas of likely intercommunal confrontation. Special measures were taken to ensure the security of the Turkish Cypriot community. A few cases of firing into the Turkish enclave north of Nicosia were reported; the firing was stopped through liaison with the National Guard.

http://www.unficyp.org/nqcontent.cfm?a_ ... ic&lang=l1

Did I hear somebody mention a few shots, they lined up the tanks to wipe out Lurucina, Who are you people trying to kid, that sampson had no intention to hurt TCs.
If it wasn't so serious it would be hilarious.


How many shots were fired into Lurigina by these lined up tanks?
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Postby YFred » Tue Mar 10, 2009 10:34 pm

bill cobbett wrote:
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halil wrote:People are keep saying that during the coup that there was no danger for TC's ..... below writing is taken out from the UNICYP web sides. It says very clear that in 15 july there was a gun fire towards the Turkish sector of the Nicosia ! UN claims that we were well protected .... I hope they were right !

On 15 July, as soon as the coup d'état was reported, UNFICYP was brought to a high state of readiness. Additional liaison officers were deployed at all levels, and increased observation was maintained throughout the island in all areas of likely intercommunal confrontation. Special measures were taken to ensure the security of the Turkish Cypriot community. A few cases of firing into the Turkish enclave north of Nicosia were reported; the firing was stopped through liaison with the National Guard.

http://www.unficyp.org/nqcontent.cfm?a_ ... ic&lang=l1

Did I hear somebody mention a few shots, they lined up the tanks to wipe out Lurucina, Who are you people trying to kid, that sampson had no intention to hurt TCs.
If it wasn't so serious it would be hilarious.


How many shots were fired into Lurigina by these lined up tanks?

I don't mean to gloat but none. They were taken out by the Turkish airforce. Sorry.

Slight mis-information, they wern't lined up. They were in a line approching from Gossi which is where they were taken out.

Its a bit hazey, its a long time ago and I was in london at the time.

But the incedent is true, half my family were there.
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