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[magikthrill]

Still better to talk about a totaly different event and bomb (idealy one that can attributed to TC) that the article and the point of the article?

i just asked a question becaues i was unaware of this. find me a thread on this forum in which every post sticks to the subject

[Main_Source]

I didnt say the UK ordered Turkey to invade, I said the Labour government of that time let them invade and abuse their guarantor status.

[magikthrill]

I didnt say the UK ordered Turkey to invade, I said the Labour government of that time let them invade and abuse their guarantor status.

actually the US let the UK let Turkey invade. the UK was on the fence initially if im not mistaken.

[erolz]

ok wow...so i got two dates mixed up.

Just like you got a little mixed up with your claims that UK orderd Turkey to invade Cyprus in 74 or that Makarios abandoned ENOSIS in 1960? Funny how you never seem to get 'mixed up' in _favour_ of TC only ever _against_ them?

but explain to me this racist view of a common GC basis of though a little more...

As well as the examples of yours I have already given?

More examples of the uniquely GC form og logic to me would be

'TC are to blame for GC going in armed bands to TC villages and killing and driving TC from their homes because TC MADE the GC do it'

or

'As there is not a single example of TC restimony that TC were driven from their homes by TC (and there is such testimony by TC that they were preventing from returning to their homes by TC) this must be incontrevertible proof of a TC "code of silence" '

are a couple that spring to mind. Want some more?

By the way it is not racist to say that GC are different from other races. It is not racist to say they often display an uncommon form of 'logic' - especially if they do. To say for example that all GC know how to do is rape steal and kill would be racist.

[cannedmoose]

actually the US let the UK let Turkey invade. the UK was on the fence initially if im not mistaken.

Correct, we had forces in the area ready to intervene. However, given the basket-case state of the UK economy in the mid-1970s any action independent of the Americans could have spelled disaster. When the Americans warned against intervention, what could the British do? Sacrifice the whole economy for the sake of Cyprus? Name me one other state that would have done so.

[magikthrill]

Correct, we had forces in the area ready to intervene. However, given the basket-case state of the UK economy in the mid-1970s any action independent of the Americans could have spelled disaster. When the Americans warned against intervention, what could the British do? Sacrifice the whole economy for the sake of Cyprus? Name me one other state that would have done so.

whats this? moose identifying AND support a british action?!?!

lol j/k. i agree w/ you moose. i feel like the events of the colonies and the middle east had officialy put the UK in bitch status by this time so the UKs blame on the Cyprus problem kind of rests w/ the 1960 agreements IMO.

[magikthrill]

ok wow...so i got two dates mixed up.

Just like you got a little mixed up with your claims that UK orderd Turkey to invade Cyprus in 74 or that Makarios abandoned ENOSIS in 1960? Funny how you never seem to get 'mixed up' in _favour_ of TC only ever _against_ them?

erol

do you believe that makarios wanted enosis till the day he died?

[erolz]

I didnt say the UK ordered Turkey to invade, I said the Labour government of that time let them invade and abuse their guarantor status.

Applogies my bad. What you actually said was

The last Labour government told Turkey to invade...

http://www.cyprus-forum.com/viewtopic.p ... told#21479

admitidly when challenged you changed this to

Lord Callaghan blatently had no problem with Turkey invading and did nothing to stop this.

When challenged on this you disapeared from the thread entirely[/quote]

[suetoniuspaulinus]

I didnt say the UK ordered Turkey to invade, I said the Labour government of that time let them invade and abuse their guarantor status.

actually the US let the UK let Turkey invade. the UK was on the fence initially if im not mistaken.

Mr magikthrill

In London 1974 Foreign Minister, James Callaghan refused to react to the Coup in Cyprus and in a meeting in London warned Prime Minister Bulent Ecevit NOT to do so, or face the wrath of the Ghurkas and fighter planes based in Akrotiri and Dhekelia.( Britsh Sovereign Bases in Cyprus to this day).

[erolz]

erol

do you believe that makarios wanted enosis till the day he died?

I think such a statement is equally ridiculous as the claim that he abandond enosis in 1960 is.

I also note (again) that NOT discussing the article that this thread is _supposed_ to be about is a strong theme in this thread