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[shahmaran]

Just because one paints bullshit into an eloquent argument, it does not mean lies have suddenly transformed into "reality", just the same as one does have to put reality into an eloquent argument for it to hold truth.

Right Oracle?

[Oracle]

Just because one paints bullshit into an eloquent argument, it does not mean lies have suddenly transformed into "reality", just the same as one does have to put reality into an eloquent argument for it to hold truth.

Right Oracle?

Thanks for the linguistic criticism, but you clearly don't know very much if you think I was being eloquent, when in fact it was just trustworthy, good old-fashioned plain speaking!

Yup, I can see that would confuse you

[shahmaran]

The only thing that could confuse me would be the wide gap between the humane angle you cunningly try to pose and the drastic amount of racism behind it.

You are a conflict within your own self Oracle, however you made it obvious a LONG time ago so no confusions here

[Oracle]

The only thing that could confuse me would be the wide gap between the humane angle you cunningly try to pose and the drastic amount of racism behind it.

You are a conflict within your own self Oracle, however you made it obvious a LONG time ago so no confusions here

Aaahh back to what you feel comfortable and familiar with .... racism.

You are having trouble consolidating your observation that I am humane, and yet can single out the Turks.

Simple! The Turks are the enemies of my country and currently occupy and "racially" segregate 200,000 GCs from their rightful homes.

[shahmaran]

The only thing that could confuse me would be the wide gap between the humane angle you cunningly try to pose and the drastic amount of racism behind it.

You are a conflict within your own self Oracle, however you made it obvious a LONG time ago so no confusions here

Aaahh back to what you feel comfortable and familiar with .... racism.

You are having trouble consolidating your observation that I am humane, and yet can single out the Turks.

Simple! The Turks are the enemies of my country and currently occupy and "racially" segregate 200,000 GCs from their rightful homes.

And how does that not fit in the definition of racism?

Racist people don't hate everyone, they usually single out a group of people and hate them for unjustifiable reasons, while they can be just as good or bad to anyone else other than this group, like any other human being can, which is what you seem to do according to your post above.

But the reality is that your people have contributed to the situation we are in at the moment just as much and opposed our rights to our country just as much, they are also guilty for murder, yet you only seem to hate the Turks.

So, If your mentality was in any way the "right" way to follow, that would mean we should also "hate" you just as much for what you did, which would mean that we would never have a solution in the way you hope for, because the racist discrimination amongst the both sides would be in the way of anything.

Therefore Oracle, there is no possibility that you could ever be right because your mentality is the core of the problem we have faced here all along, not the solution.

Your mentality is exactly what fuels division.

You cannot claim to be human and see the other half of the people of this country as your enemies.

Unless of course you are seriously deluded or confused about the meanings of these words.

Here i'll post them just to help you out:

hu·mane (hy-mn)
adj.
1. Characterized by kindness, mercy, or compassion.
2. Marked by an emphasis on humanistic values and concerns.

rac·ism (rszm)
n.
1. The belief that race accounts for differences in human character or ability and that a particular race is superior to others.
2. Discrimination or prejudice based on race.

So as you can see, you cant be "humane" when you single out a part of humanity as your enemy, that's when you become racist, which you very much are.

Good day

[Get Real!]

Good day

Shahmaran has come a long way since his early days of thunder...

[Oracle]

[rac·ism (rszm)
n.
1. The belief that race accounts for differences in human character or ability and that a particular race is superior to others.
2. Discrimination or prejudice based on race.[/i]

First of all Turks are not a race; and secondly, I have no illusions that they have any differences in human characteristics which they can conveniently use to excuse their behaviour.

And that is what you are ducking and diving, avoiding addressing; the fact that it is their behaviour which is at the root of the hatred.

If they are "discriminated" i.e. singled out, then it is because they are the ONLY ones presently occupying Cyprus. That is a perfectly legitimate reason which has nought to do with racism ... much as you would like to label it with that common phrase! Otherwise everyone is racist simply because they use the term Germans or French. It is a way of addressing a subject!

Turkey invaded a country, with made up excuses, in order to expand their territory for their own people. So they are the racists. They removed the GCs from the north of Cyprus. So they are the racists. They differentially killed thousands of GCs, so again Turks are the racists ... by YOUR definitions.

So please shah, if you don't want to appear dumber than I think you are, address why Turkey is not racist (your term) towards the GCs whom it has ethnically cleansed or killed ... and do not mix up my emotions which were forged by Turkish bombardments, and have certainly never led to any combative measures for vengeance, unlike what Turkey carries out to this day on GCs!

[shahmaran]

I stopped reading at the part thats say "Turks are not a race".

Im too busy for this shit i'm sorry.

[Oracle]

Yup that's a tough fact for a racist like you to swallow ...

Cheerio

[growuptcs]

[rac·ism (rszm)
n.
1. The belief that race accounts for differences in human character or ability and that a particular race is superior to others.
2. Discrimination or prejudice based on race.[/i]

First of all Turks are not a race; and secondly, I have no illusions that they have any differences in human characteristics which they can conveniently use to excuse their behaviour.

And that is what you are ducking and diving, avoiding addressing; the fact that it is their behaviour which is at the root of the hatred.

If they are "discriminated" i.e. singled out, then it is because they are the ONLY ones presently occupying Cyprus. That is a perfectly legitimate reason which has nought to do with racism ... much as you would like to label it with that common phrase! Otherwise everyone is racist simply because they use the term Germans or French. It is a way of addressing a subject!

Turkey invaded a country, with made up excuses, in order to expand their territory for their own people. So they are the racists. They removed the GCs from the north of Cyprus. So they are the racists. They differentially killed thousands of GCs, so again Turks are the racists ... by YOUR definitions.

So please shah, if you don't want to appear dumber than I think you are, address why Turkey is not racist (your term) towards the GCs whom it has ethnically cleansed or killed ... and do not mix up my emotions which were forged by Turkish bombardments, and have certainly never led to any combative measures for vengeance, unlike what Turkey carries out to this day on GCs!

shahmaran:
I stopped reading at the part thats say "Turks are not a race".

Im too busy for this shit i'm sorry.

shah, its really hilarious when you squirm your way out of the "truth", with your bulletproof anologies, and your Turkish equality treatment that YOU SHOULD have.