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[insan]

I agree he should stand down he cannot negotiate forever, the TCs will not allow it by not re-ellecting him.

I personally blame the EU for promissing to remove isolation and going back on their word. TCs have every right to be angry and GCs will eventually realise that TCs voted for peace because they wanted peace not because they were gaining. But it will be too late.

The TCs have no right to parlay with Turkey on occupied territory belonging to the RoC, so by being an accessory to a crime condemned by the UN you are not scoring any brownie points. There is no “isolation”, it’s a figment of your imaginations, but a closed off territory illegally occupied by the enemy… and so it shall remain until the RoC decides otherwise.

U r confusing RoC with "RoC". This consfusion makes all ur arguments just a big galimatias.

A crime is a crime, so just shut up and take it like a man…

True. A crime is a crime. So why do u ignore the crimes Greece and GCs commited and just insist on the crimes commited by Turks and TCs. It is too obvious that RoC is legitimate not the "RoC". Legitimacy of "RoC" is temporary till a final solution is found for the Cyprob. The "world" kept recognizing "RoC" just because not making Greece upset and away from Nato. Why? The interests of the "world" over Balkans. Now everything has been fixed on Balkans despite the cryings of Greece and "RoC". Now time to fix everything in Cyprus despite cryings of Greece and the "RoC".

[Simon]

It does not matter whether Talat is President or not because he does not call the shots. Anybody who denies this is insensate. Turkey is in charge. This is why Talat cannot offer us anything better than the Annan Plan, and he never will. These talks are doomed to fail.

[YFred]

It does not matter whether Talat is President or not because he does not call the shots. Anybody who denies this is insensate. Turkey is in charge. This is why Talat cannot offer us anything better than the Annan Plan, and he never will. These talks are doomed to fail.

Judging by what Mr X is saying, turkey just voted for Xmass.

[christos1]

Talat to stand down if no 2009 solution found
By Jean Christou

TURKISH Cypriot leader Mehmet Ali Talat will not run for ‘president’ next year if there is no solution to the Cyprus problem by the end of 2009, he said in an interview published in Turkey yesterday.

In the interview with Sabah newspaper, Talat, who was on a visit to Istanbul, said he was unhappy with the pace of the Cyprus negotiations.

"If there's no hope for a resolution by (year-end), I will have completed my mission,” he said signalling that he would be done with his presidential ambitions when elections take place in April 2010.

“We have to solve the Cyprus problem by the end of 2009 to go to the referendum, and hold elections for a unified state before the start of the Turkish Cypriot presidential elections,” Talat said.

His spokesman, Hasan Ercakica told the Sunday Mail yesterday it was not a question of whether or not Turkish Cypriots continued to want a solution but whether or not the current process could be successful.

“If the process breaks down, President Talat sees no reason for him to be president any longer,” he said.

Talat, who was elected ‘president’ in 2005, said "serious differences in views" remained between the two sides in the talks, the most difficult of which were property and territory.

He last met President Demetris Christofias on Thursday, when they continued discussing property but decided to put it aside for the moment and focus on EU issues in their next meeting on Wednesday.

In a press conference with Turkish journalists on Friday, Talat talked about the upcoming ‘parliamentary’ elections in the north on April 19, and the rise in popularity of the right-wing and hard-line National Unity Party (UBP), saying if a party unsupportive of the negotiations was elected it would result in “chaos”.

Recent polls gave the UBP 40 per cent of the vote, with Talat’s party the Republican Turkish Party (CTP) trailing at 28 per cent. Other polls it the north during the past week showed the majority of Turkish Cypriots now favoured a two-state solution following Greek Cypriot rejection of the Annan plan in 2004.

Commenting on upcoming elections, Talat said: "I don't know what the result will be. However, the government to be formed has to support the negotiation process. This [negotiation process] is the product of a long process and is a position that has been maintained in coordination with Turkey. If the new government doesn't support it, chaos will emerge.”

Christofias said on Friday a way must be found out of the labyrinth, placing the onus on Turkey rather than Talat.

There was no response from the Greek Cypriot side yesterday on Talat’s announcement that he would step down if there was no solution by the end of this year.

However the comment is likely to be seen as a form of time pressure, which is anathema to the Greek Cypriot side.

(additional reporting by Simon Bahceli)

Copyright © Cyprus Mail 2009

Then what?

Best news i heard all day. Talat is a diplomat not a village idiot like you chums. He realized that he cant just say that he wants independence even though that is what he is seeking in negotiations. The Greek Cypriots want someone like Denktash, you know, sort of like a whipping boy for the EU. As you realize, some countries in the EU are using Cyprus because they want nothing to do with Turkey. They dont care about Cyprus, they are just using Cyprus. I think you are intelligent enough to realize that much. So, do a lot of people in the EU happy and elect someone who tels it like it is. Someone who cant stop talking about independence, Ataturk and Turkey. Like the commercial says, just do it.

[insan]

Talat to stand down if no 2009 solution found
By Jean Christou

TURKISH Cypriot leader Mehmet Ali Talat will not run for ‘president’ next year if there is no solution to the Cyprus problem by the end of 2009, he said in an interview published in Turkey yesterday.

In the interview with Sabah newspaper, Talat, who was on a visit to Istanbul, said he was unhappy with the pace of the Cyprus negotiations.

"If there's no hope for a resolution by (year-end), I will have completed my mission,” he said signalling that he would be done with his presidential ambitions when elections take place in April 2010.

“We have to solve the Cyprus problem by the end of 2009 to go to the referendum, and hold elections for a unified state before the start of the Turkish Cypriot presidential elections,” Talat said.

His spokesman, Hasan Ercakica told the Sunday Mail yesterday it was not a question of whether or not Turkish Cypriots continued to want a solution but whether or not the current process could be successful.

“If the process breaks down, President Talat sees no reason for him to be president any longer,” he said.

Talat, who was elected ‘president’ in 2005, said "serious differences in views" remained between the two sides in the talks, the most difficult of which were property and territory.

He last met President Demetris Christofias on Thursday, when they continued discussing property but decided to put it aside for the moment and focus on EU issues in their next meeting on Wednesday.

In a press conference with Turkish journalists on Friday, Talat talked about the upcoming ‘parliamentary’ elections in the north on April 19, and the rise in popularity of the right-wing and hard-line National Unity Party (UBP), saying if a party unsupportive of the negotiations was elected it would result in “chaos”.

Recent polls gave the UBP 40 per cent of the vote, with Talat’s party the Republican Turkish Party (CTP) trailing at 28 per cent. Other polls it the north during the past week showed the majority of Turkish Cypriots now favoured a two-state solution following Greek Cypriot rejection of the Annan plan in 2004.

Commenting on upcoming elections, Talat said: "I don't know what the result will be. However, the government to be formed has to support the negotiation process. This [negotiation process] is the product of a long process and is a position that has been maintained in coordination with Turkey. If the new government doesn't support it, chaos will emerge.”

Christofias said on Friday a way must be found out of the labyrinth, placing the onus on Turkey rather than Talat.

There was no response from the Greek Cypriot side yesterday on Talat’s announcement that he would step down if there was no solution by the end of this year.

However the comment is likely to be seen as a form of time pressure, which is anathema to the Greek Cypriot side.

(additional reporting by Simon Bahceli)

Copyright © Cyprus Mail 2009

Then what?

Best news i heard all day. Talat is a diplomat not a village idiot like you chums. He realized that he cant just say that he wants independence even though that is what he is seeking in negotiations. The Greek Cypriots want someone like Denktash, you know, sort of like a whipping boy for the EU. As you realize, some countries in the EU are using Cyprus because they want nothing to do with Turkey. They dont care about Cyprus, they are just using Cyprus. I think you are intelligent enough to realize that much. So, do a lot of people in the EU happy and elect someone who tels it like it is. Someone who cant stop talking about independence, Ataturk and Turkey. Like the commercial says, just do it.

Those who r aimed to use Cyprus to keep Turkey out of EU is the political group called Christian Democrats not all political groups of EU. Nevertheless u like over-generalizations a lot with ur limited knowledge.

[Kikapu]

We will never capitulate to GC will.....you can wait for the swing which may never go your way.

Then quit complaining and continue your mediocre existence in the closed off area.

We are!!!!!!! no one expects anything to come of these talks they all know the GCs to well, opening of the borders increased the viewpoint of a 2 state solution, the majority of TCs are against a unitary state which is what the GCs want.

And just who are these people who are saying a 2 state solution. The Fascist NeoPartitionist and the settlers who have been given "TC citizenships" to vote over the rights of True TC's. I believe the recent poll showed around 60% wanting this method as a solution. That means the other 40% wants a solution as one country. But if we break down the 60%, most are not even TC's but settlers, by almost 80% of the 60%. And that's assuming, that the survey/poll was taken of the registered voters and not just a random sample, which will make the 60% almost 100% settlers along with Fascist NeoPartitonis, since 3:1 ratio, the north are settlers vs. True TC's.. What this means is, the True TC's want a solution as one country. This survey/poll is nothing but a cooked up crap just to pressure Christofias to accept Talat's silly demands that average TC's does not want. They know too well, that as a two state solution, would mean the True TC's becoming "slaves" to the ruling elites. It will be "ANIMAL FARM" all over again.!

[Viewpoint]

We will never capitulate to GC will.....you can wait for the swing which may never go your way.

Then quit complaining and continue your mediocre existence in the closed off area.

We are!!!!!!! no one expects anything to come of these talks they all know the GCs to well, opening of the borders increased the viewpoint of a 2 state solution, the majority of TCs are against a unitary state which is what the GCs want.

And just who are these people who are saying a 2 state solution. The Fascist NeoPartitionist and the settlers who have been given "TC citizenships" to vote over the rights of True TC's. I believe the recent poll showed around 60% wanting this method as a solution. That means the other 40% wants a solution as one country. But if we break down the 60%, most are not even TC's but settlers, by almost 80% of the 60%. And that's assuming, that the survey/poll was taken of the registered voters and not just a random sample, which will make the 60% almost 100% settlers along with Fascist NeoPartitonis, since 3:1 ratio, the north are settlers vs. True TC's.. What this means is, the True TC's want a solution as one country. This survey/poll is nothing but a cooked up crap just to pressure Christofias to accept Talat's silly demands that average TC's does not want. They know too well, that as a two state solution, would mean the True TC's becoming "slaves" to the ruling elites. It will be "ANIMAL FARM" all over again.!

Go back to your maths lesson you failed yet again, you pick these figures out of this air in the hope that people will be naive enough to believe the crap you put out.

Read the declaration by President Talat and GC leader Christpfias last September at the start of these talks. 2 founding states...

[Kikapu]

We will never capitulate to GC will.....you can wait for the swing which may never go your way.

Then quit complaining and continue your mediocre existence in the closed off area.

We are!!!!!!! no one expects anything to come of these talks they all know the GCs to well, opening of the borders increased the viewpoint of a 2 state solution, the majority of TCs are against a unitary state which is what the GCs want.

And just who are these people who are saying a 2 state solution. The Fascist NeoPartitionist and the settlers who have been given "TC citizenships" to vote over the rights of True TC's. I believe the recent poll showed around 60% wanting this method as a solution. That means the other 40% wants a solution as one country. But if we break down the 60%, most are not even TC's but settlers, by almost 80% of the 60%. And that's assuming, that the survey/poll was taken of the registered voters and not just a random sample, which will make the 60% almost 100% settlers along with Fascist NeoPartitonis, since 3:1 ratio, the north are settlers vs. True TC's.. What this means is, the True TC's want a solution as one country. This survey/poll is nothing but a cooked up crap just to pressure Christofias to accept Talat's silly demands that average TC's does not want. They know too well, that as a two state solution, would mean the True TC's becoming "slaves" to the ruling elites. It will be "ANIMAL FARM" all over again.!

Go back to your maths lesson you failed yet again, you pick these figures out of this air in the hope that people will be naive enough to believe the crap you put out.

Read the declaration by President Talat and GC leader Christpfias last September at the start of these talks. 2 founding states...

Not as an Independent two state solution, which is the main aim of Talat under the disguised settlement of Federation/Confederation plan.

There is nothing wrong with my math. You prove to me that 60% True TC's asked for a 2 Independent state solution and not the minority NeoPartitionist and the majority settlers, and I'll eat my hat.!

[Oracle]

Just humour the man .....

Everyone knows he is as useful as an ice-cube at an Inuits' party ....

[Viewpoint]

We will never capitulate to GC will.....you can wait for the swing which may never go your way.

Then quit complaining and continue your mediocre existence in the closed off area.

We are!!!!!!! no one expects anything to come of these talks they all know the GCs to well, opening of the borders increased the viewpoint of a 2 state solution, the majority of TCs are against a unitary state which is what the GCs want.

And just who are these people who are saying a 2 state solution. The Fascist NeoPartitionist and the settlers who have been given "TC citizenships" to vote over the rights of True TC's. I believe the recent poll showed around 60% wanting this method as a solution. That means the other 40% wants a solution as one country. But if we break down the 60%, most are not even TC's but settlers, by almost 80% of the 60%. And that's assuming, that the survey/poll was taken of the registered voters and not just a random sample, which will make the 60% almost 100% settlers along with Fascist NeoPartitonis, since 3:1 ratio, the north are settlers vs. True TC's.. What this means is, the True TC's want a solution as one country. This survey/poll is nothing but a cooked up crap just to pressure Christofias to accept Talat's silly demands that average TC's does not want. They know too well, that as a two state solution, would mean the True TC's becoming "slaves" to the ruling elites. It will be "ANIMAL FARM" all over again.!

Go back to your maths lesson you failed yet again, you pick these figures out of this air in the hope that people will be naive enough to believe the crap you put out.

Read the declaration by President Talat and GC leader Christpfias last September at the start of these talks. 2 founding states...

Not as an Independent two state solution, which is the main aim of Talat under the disguised settlement of Federation/Confederation plan.

There is nothing wrong with my math. You prove to me that 60% True TC's asked for a 2 Independent state solution and not the minority NeoPartitionist and the majority settlers, and I'll eat my hat.!

Please provide us with the sources from which you draw your conclusions, both what President Talat demands and the 60% mathmatical hotch potch you always pull out of the sky which you think people are stupid enough to swallow.