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[Sotos]

Soimon, get a grip mate, 18/82 is not a viable option.
30/70 with maximum gcs in the north is.
You will see that the agreement will not be less than 25/75.

Why is not viable? You can't live without stealing?

Nobody is going to steal anything. Some land will be given back, most GC's will be able to return back to their homes and some will be componsated. How is that stealing?
Its a matter of working out, first what percentage to be given back, then how many GC will return and how many will be compensated. I think you will find that quite a few will want copensation. It gives maximum to everyone. Whats wrong with that?

I'll tell you whats wrong with it as far as GCs are concerned - compensation, especially if it is paid at a governmental level and not at a face to face level, lacks all sense of payback or revenge. GCs don't want money - they've got more than they need. They want everyone in TRNC out in the street without a roof over their heads. Anything less and they will feel cheated of their humiliation of 1974 being transfered to the people of the TRNC.

It is not about money you greedy foreigner. We know that you left your country and came to Cyprus just so you will take cheap land that was stolen from us! We are not criminals like you. We want to return to our homeland and our own homes because it is the land our ancestors lived for 1000s of years and we will not give it to any foreigners! If you want compensation then we agree to buy all the land you legally own at current market values!!

That is a cheap trick.
How can you say things like that to VW after Britain welcomed upto half a million Cypriots.
You are welcome to buy any land you like so long as the person wishes to sell it. Nobody can force anybody to do anything outside of the agreement.
BTW that is the exact protection the TCs need from GCs otherwise they will be no TCs left in Cyprus. But than again thats what an average GC dreams about every night, isn't it?

You know very well that we didn't want to sell and we didn't sell anything. We are talking about stealing here. Cypriots in the UK didn't steal the homes and properties of the British.

[Get Real!]

Soimon, get a grip mate, 18/82 is not a viable option.
30/70 with maximum gcs in the north is.
You will see that the agreement will not be less than 25/75.

Not even one millimeter of Greek Cypriot land will ever be ceded to the lazy Ottoman criminals, and their incompetent “government” cannot hold out any longer... it’s pretty much over for you.

[YFred]

Soimon, get a grip mate, 18/82 is not a viable option.
30/70 with maximum gcs in the north is.
You will see that the agreement will not be less than 25/75.

Not even one millimeter of Greek Cypriot land will ever be ceded to the lazy Ottoman criminals, and their incompetent “government” cannot hold out any longer... it’s pretty much over for you.

Oh ok then. We'll take a micrometer or perhaps if you are in such a foul mood, we'll take a nanometer with us for the negotiations.
We can then measure it.

[DT.]

Soimon, get a grip mate, 18/82 is not a viable option.
30/70 with maximum gcs in the north is.
You will see that the agreement will not be less than 25/75.

Why is not viable? You can't live without stealing?

Nobody is going to steal anything. Some land will be given back, most GC's will be able to return back to their homes and some will be componsated. How is that stealing?
Its a matter of working out, first what percentage to be given back, then how many GC will return and how many will be compensated. I think you will find that quite a few will want copensation. It gives maximum to everyone. Whats wrong with that?

I'll tell you whats wrong with it as far as GCs are concerned - compensation, especially if it is paid at a governmental level and not at a face to face level, lacks all sense of payback or revenge. GCs don't want money - they've got more than they need. They want everyone in TRNC out in the street without a roof over their heads. Anything less and they will feel cheated of their humiliation of 1974 being transfered to the people of the TRNC.

It is not about money you greedy foreigner. We know that you left your country and came to Cyprus just so you will take cheap land that was stolen from us! We are not criminals like you. We want to return to our homeland and our own homes because it is the land our ancestors lived for 1000s of years and we will not give it to any foreigners! If you want compensation then we agree to buy all the land you legally own at current market values!!

That is a cheap trick.
How can you say things like that to VW after Britain welcomed upto half a million Cypriots.
You are welcome to buy any land you like so long as the person wishes to sell it. Nobody can force anybody to do anything outside of the agreement.
BTW that is the exact protection the TCs need from GCs otherwise they will be no TCs left in Cyprus. But than again thats what an average GC dreams about every night, isn't it?

who told you I was willing to sell my property in Morphou or Kyrenia?

[Simon]

It is you that needs to get a grip. How about the RoC kicks your smelly arse back to Turkey and then compensates you? I'm sure you'd be happy with compensation? TCs are 18% of the population, and therefore should have no more than 18% of the land, coastline and resources. Why is that not viable?

[insan]

Kikapu was in doubt last night but when a TC posted what u posted.

[utu]

Soimon, get a grip mate, 18/82 is not a viable option.
30/70 with maximum gcs in the north is.
You will see that the agreement will not be less than 25/75.

Why is not viable? You can't live without stealing?

Nobody is going to steal anything. Some land will be given back, most GC's will be able to return back to their homes and some will be componsated. How is that stealing?
Its a matter of working out, first what percentage to be given back, then how many GC will return and how many will be compensated. I think you will find that quite a few will want copensation. It gives maximum to everyone. Whats wrong with that?

I'll tell you whats wrong with it as far as GCs are concerned - compensation, especially if it is paid at a governmental level and not at a face to face level, lacks all sense of payback or revenge. GCs don't want money - they've got more than they need. They want everyone in TRNC out in the street without a roof over their heads. Anything less and they will feel cheated of their humiliation of 1974 being transfered to the people of the TRNC.

turks make up 18% and gcs make up the rest why should turks have more? thats stealing OUR land it should be 18/82. not 37% occupied OUR LAND

I know that this statement will raise the wrath of a number of you folk out there, but the proportion has to be based on land OWNERSHIP rather than population. And this percentage has to be judged on pre-1963. I know that the actual percentage on land ownership by group is disputed. There has been a low figure of 15 percent and a high figure of 31 percent quoted on various sources. The median figure from the quotes hovers around the 25 percent mark, so if federation is going to be the solution, then probably 25/75 is going to be the end result.

[Kikapu]

Kikapu was in doubt last night but when a TC posted what u posted.

What the hell are you talking about, Insane.!

[miltiades]

Soimon, get a grip mate, 18/82 is not a viable option.
30/70 with maximum gcs in the north is.
You will see that the agreement will not be less than 25/75.

Why is not viable? You can't live without stealing?

Nobody is going to steal anything. Some land will be given back, most GC's will be able to return back to their homes and some will be componsated. How is that stealing?
Its a matter of working out, first what percentage to be given back, then how many GC will return and how many will be compensated. I think you will find that quite a few will want copensation. It gives maximum to everyone. Whats wrong with that?

I'll tell you whats wrong with it as far as GCs are concerned - compensation, especially if it is paid at a governmental level and not at a face to face level, lacks all sense of payback or revenge. GCs don't want money - they've got more than they need. They want everyone in TRNC out in the street without a roof over their heads. Anything less and they will feel cheated of their humiliation of 1974 being transfered to the people of the TRNC.

You do talk rubbish dont you !!
Are you a pipe smoker by any chance ??

[YFred]

Soimon, get a grip mate, 18/82 is not a viable option.
30/70 with maximum gcs in the north is.
You will see that the agreement will not be less than 25/75.

Why is not viable? You can't live without stealing?

Nobody is going to steal anything. Some land will be given back, most GC's will be able to return back to their homes and some will be componsated. How is that stealing?
Its a matter of working out, first what percentage to be given back, then how many GC will return and how many will be compensated. I think you will find that quite a few will want copensation. It gives maximum to everyone. Whats wrong with that?

I'll tell you whats wrong with it as far as GCs are concerned - compensation, especially if it is paid at a governmental level and not at a face to face level, lacks all sense of payback or revenge. GCs don't want money - they've got more than they need. They want everyone in TRNC out in the street without a roof over their heads. Anything less and they will feel cheated of their humiliation of 1974 being transfered to the people of the TRNC.

You do talk rubbish dont you !!
Are you a pipe smoker by any chance ??

Miltiades,

You have to answer the points made. Whether a man smokes pipe or nargile has no bearing on the matter. I am sure there are plenty of GCs with revengeful mentality.