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What is best approach for the Cyprus Solution?

The two communities totally separated.
8
25%
Minimum GCs in the north.
1
3%
Maximum possible GCs in the north.
2
6%
Everyone back to their homes
21
66%
 
Total votes : 32

Postby vaughanwilliams » Sat Mar 07, 2009 2:53 pm

If you come to live in the Turkish Constituent State, you may or may not be welcome, but I can't see the TCs making any special exceptions for you.
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Postby Get Real! » Sat Mar 07, 2009 2:58 pm

vaughanwilliams wrote:Are GCs better off this year than last year?

I haven’t seen or heard of a survey that suggests anything different from last year.

vaughanwilliams wrote:Do GCs have difficulty paying their debts?

Every country has some that do, but again I haven’t heard of anything out of the ordinary.

vaughanwilliams wrote:Is unemployment not high and getting higher?

The RoC’s 3% is one of the lowest if not the lowest in Europe! The “TRNC” has around 30%, and if the RoC was to close the roadblocks that would jump even higher.

vaughanwilliams wrote:Have GCs stopped emigrating?

Again, nothing out of the ordinary has been noticed.
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Postby Sotos » Sat Mar 07, 2009 2:59 pm

vaughanwilliams wrote:If you come to live in the Turkish Constituent State, you may or may not be welcome, but I can't see the TCs making any special exceptions for you.


We will not go to live in anything Turkish. We will return to our own homeland which will be free from the illegal Turkish occupation.
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Postby Get Real! » Sat Mar 07, 2009 3:00 pm

vaughanwilliams wrote:There are a few Greek schools in the Karpaz, but all the rest are Turkish here, with the exception of a few International schools. If you think you are going to change them all to Greek schools overnight you need to have another think.

Most were GC schools pinched and converted by the Turks.
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Postby Sotos » Sat Mar 07, 2009 3:02 pm

Get Real! wrote:
vaughanwilliams wrote:Are GCs better off this year than last year?

I haven’t seen or heard of a survey that suggests anything different from last year.

vaughanwilliams wrote:Do GCs have difficulty paying their debts?

Every country has some that do, but again I haven’t heard of anything out of the ordinary.

vaughanwilliams wrote:Is unemployment not high and getting higher?

The RoC’s 3% is one of the lowest if not the lowest in Europe! The “TRNC” has around 30%, and if the RoC was to close the roadblocks that would jump even higher.

vaughanwilliams wrote:Have GCs stopped emigrating?

Again, nothing out of the ordinary has been noticed.


More GCs come back to Cyprus than those who go abroad. And those who emigrate today are almost exclusively students who were studying abroad and got a job there. Now there are no Cypriots that emigrate because of poverty .
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Postby miltiades » Sat Mar 07, 2009 3:13 pm

vaughanwilliams wrote:
Sotos wrote:And we are doing even better even though you stole 1/3rd of our land and made 200.000 of us refugees! And sorry for pressing you to give us back what you stole from us. We should have let you enjoy what you stole :roll:

Nice rhetoric Sotos but could you answer my questions above, please?
Are GCs better off?
Do GCs have difficulty paying their debts?
Is unemployment not high and getting higher?
Have GCs stopped emigrating?

Are you really suggesting that the economic situation in the RoC is similar to that of the occupied north ?

People through out Europe right now ARE having financial difficulties as a result of the credit crunch , I think on balance the Cypriots are managing quite well , bear in mind that in 1974 faced with almost 200 thousand refugees and an economy in tatters their resolve to overcome severe difficulties succeeded in quickly re establishing an economic recovery which was interpreted by the International world as miraculous.

The unemployment figures are the lowest in Europe , no problem there and as for emigration , what emigration mate ,Cypriots are returning to Cyprus in droves not leaving Cyprus.
ps. I do hope that unlike a lot of brain dead Brits you bought your property in the north in a proper manner !!
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Postby bill cobbett » Sat Mar 07, 2009 3:29 pm

May I remind all that the majority voters in the Occupied Area are illegal settlers and all polls, elections, referendums etc should not be recognized.
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Postby YFred » Sat Mar 07, 2009 3:47 pm

miltiades wrote:
vaughanwilliams wrote:
Sotos wrote:And we are doing even better even though you stole 1/3rd of our land and made 200.000 of us refugees! And sorry for pressing you to give us back what you stole from us. We should have let you enjoy what you stole :roll:

Nice rhetoric Sotos but could you answer my questions above, please?
Are GCs better off?
Do GCs have difficulty paying their debts?
Is unemployment not high and getting higher?
Have GCs stopped emigrating?

Are you really suggesting that the economic situation in the RoC is similar to that of the occupied north ?

People through out Europe right now ARE having financial difficulties as a result of the credit crunch , I think on balance the Cypriots are managing quite well , bear in mind that in 1974 faced with almost 200 thousand refugees and an economy in tatters their resolve to overcome severe difficulties succeeded in quickly re establishing an economic recovery which was interpreted by the International world as miraculous.

The unemployment figures are the lowest in Europe , no problem there and as for emigration , what emigration mate ,Cypriots are returning to Cyprus in droves not leaving Cyprus.
ps. I do hope that unlike a lot of brain dead Brits you bought your property in the north in a proper manner !!

Miltiades,
You must be a little fairer with your answer please.
You missed out that since the separation, GC's received every single bit of aid, investment and any other help you can think of. Whilst the TCs received jack shit if you pardon the expression as well as being suffocated with love.
So please let us have no comparisons as to who is better at what. When the playing fields are equal, you will find most Cypriots are very imaginative in creating wealth.
Judging by the responses to this thread in an exam situation most would get a F with the exception of you and VW.

Now the real question is which option would be best so Cyprus remains united.

The obvious one is the 3rd choice; it would balance the economies and give TCs security and economic prosperity.

First choice will make TCs join Turkey.
Second Choice will make the north economically non-viable
Fourth choice has a serious problem of going back to 63.

The best choice is the 3rd option.
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Postby YFred » Sat Mar 07, 2009 3:51 pm

bill cobbett wrote:May I remind all that the majority voters in the Occupied Area are illegal settlers and all polls, elections, referendums etc should not be recognized.

God god. Now where have I heafrd that before. It took us 50 years to listen to us and now you cook up another excuse for ignoring us. I look forward to the next 50 years.
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Postby Get Real! » Sat Mar 07, 2009 3:53 pm

YFred wrote:You missed out thet since the separation, GC's received every single bit of aid, investment and any other help you can think of. Whilst the TCs received jack shit if you pardon the expression as well as being suffocated with love.

:lol: Turkish Cypriot fantasies...

I'm a refugee and besides spending 3 months in a tent got jack-shit (thousands of GC's had spent 15 years in a 3x3 wooden cabin) whereas Turkish Cypriots had around 4 "spare" houses p/family to go round, millions of dollars worth of goods & equipment ransacked from GC businesses, and acres of “free” land you never owned!

So if you want to vomit rubbish go to your toilet not here…
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