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[Piratis]

An independent committee can evaluate and decide claims, but Im pretty certain GCs would be against this?

Do you want a committee to decide if your house legally belongs to you or not.?

I'm sure, as soon as you provide the proof what they need from you, the deeds, it will be determined that that house belongs to you, so let the committee check everyone’s deeds.!

You will agree to this arrangement, right. VP.?

As long as it is independent and examines throughly claims this will be OK by the TCs.

Examine what thoroughly exactly. Don't you not believe that the deeds to your house are real deeds.? All real deeds are RoC issued with registration to prove it. The only time there needs to be any investigation, is when more than one person makes a claim to the same piece of land. At that point, the one with the original and authentic deed gets the land, and the other goes to jail for trying to commit fraud.!

I am willing to have my deeds checked why not everyone? what have people got to hide...the "RoC" only lasted 3 years so all claims should be checked so that no one is left with any suspicians of manipulation or fraud.

Who said that RoC only lasted for 3 years? You?

The UN were RoC is a member, and EU which RoC joined in 2004, don't agree with you.

Republic of Cyprus is the one and only state in Cyprus and the one and only authority to issue title deeds. If you have any complaints against RoC in this respect then feel free to go to the ECHR about it.

The "RoC" is only an interim state until you resolve the division, you have seen what the EU and UN can back the demonized AP.

Who says that RoC is an "interim state"? You? Show me where the EU or UN say that RoC is an interim state. You are dreaming again.

And the Annan plan is null and void.

So I would not feel to comfortable as you are clearly one who prefers the current situation and the GC sole domination of our stolen rights.

Who says that RoC stole your rights? You?
You didn't want your rights in RoC because you wanted to take our lands instead. We stole nothing, and in fact you are free to take back your rights as long as you give us back our rights and our lands.

If you have all this recognition and legality why dont you solve your peoblems with those that recognize you??

We don't have any problems with other countries which respect international law and the sovergnity of Cyprus. The problem is created by Turkey which violates international law and illegaly occupy 1/3rd of our country.

without us you can do jack shit and not gives a figs arse about you about time you realize this and understood that wihtout our agreement this island will stay divided for a long time to come, ho I forgot thats really what you wanted anyway..all your posts support this fact.

At no point you agreed on anything that is not partition. You always demand an exclusive rule over lands that belong to us by over 80%.

So waiting for you to agree for true unification is like waiting for a true Santa Claus.

[Viewpoint]

Piratis

Who says that RoC is an "interim state"? You? Show me where the EU or UN say that RoC is an interim state. You are dreaming again.

And the Annan plan is null and void.

The AP is just one example which proves me right, if you want a solution the "RoC" is only temporary as you have to take into account the TCs and their rights in a United Cyprus Republic which will mean a virgin birth of 2 states under a federal Government, this is backed by the UN and EU. Or are you claiming that your leader is not negotiating in goodfaith supporting their intial statements of the basis of a soluiton being BBF with political equality of the 2 states?

Who says that RoC stole your rights? You?
You didn't want your rights in RoC because you wanted to take our lands instead. We stole nothing, and in fact you are free to take back your rights as long as you give us back our rights and our lands.

You stole our rights in 1963...the rest is a result of this fact. We are trying to take back our rights thats why we have been negotiating for 46 years with your rejection at the only referendum we have had. Thats why the dissolving of the "RoC" is necessary as even you are the one claiming it is inadequate and will be opposed by GCs as soon as we return to it causing more conflict and pain. A new start is required with a structure that will guarantee everyones rights in a new United Cyprus Republic only then will you get back your lands as we get our rights.

We don't have any problems with other countries which respect international law and the sovergnity of Cyprus. The problem is created by Turkey which violates international law and illegaly occupy 1/3rd of our country.

Then go agree a solution with them or get them to force what you demand, cant see them rushing to your rescue..are you still hopeful?

At no point you agreed on anything that is not partition. You always demand an exclusive rule over lands that belong to us by over 80%.

So waiting for you to agree for true unification is like waiting for a true Santa Claus.

Then you can wait and wait and wait and wait....you will be long gone if you do not see the reality that you have to deal with, you can continue to wait we have no problem with that.

[Piratis]

How can Annan plan which is null and void prove anything?

Republic of Cyprus is an independent Republic member of UN and EU, part of which is illegally occupied by Turkish troops. These are the facts.

You left from Republic of Cyprus because you wanted partition. We stole nothing from you and you are free whenever you decide to end your illegal occupation, to give us back our rights and our lands and take back yours. Nobody stops you from doing so, apart from your desire to take our lands, and violate our rights, something which is illegal.

[Viewpoint]

How can Annan plan which is null and void prove anything?

Republic of Cyprus is an independent Republic member of UN and EU, part of which is illegally occupied by Turkish troops. These are the facts.

You left from Republic of Cyprus because you wanted partition. We stole nothing from you and you are free whenever you decide to end your illegal occupation, to give us back our rights and our lands and take back yours. Nobody stops you from doing so, apart from your desire to take our lands, and violate our rights, something which is illegal.

Make up your mind Piratis arent you the one who hates the "RoC" constititution because you feel it gives the TCs to much? How long will it take you to lodge Akritas 2 to the EU??? Week or maybe 2 weeks??? We will never take a leap of faith into a GC sesspit of manipulated and discriminative democracy that will gift our future to GCs we have been there done that, plenty of safeguards are vital to guarantee your effective contribution to any union of states.

[bill cobbett]

Freddy old boy, as the OP, any chance of declaring a result on your poll and perhaps some concluding remarks for our amusement. Thank you.

[YFred]

Freddy old boy, as the OP, any chance of declaring a result on your poll and perhaps some concluding remarks for our amusement. Thank you.

Dear Bill,
88 % are delusional for choosing first and the last option. Neither is about to happen. So they don’t have a clue.

10% including myself I might add got it spot on. Choosing either second or third options which are plausible

2% don’t have a clue.

So the don’t have a clues win by 90%.
Any constructive comments will noted for the future polls.

[kurupetos]

Freddy old boy, as the OP, any chance of declaring a result on your poll and perhaps some concluding remarks for our amusement. Thank you.

Dear Bill,
88 % are delusional for choosing first and the last option. Neither is about to happen. So they don’t have a clue.

10% including myself I might add got it spot on. Choosing either second or third options which are plausible

2% don’t have a clue.

So the don’t have a clues win by 90%.
Any constructive comments will noted for the future polls.

Your poll is rubbish!

You give the options: maximum/minimum GCs back to their homes & all back to their homes. What are the constrains that define maximum and minimum? Is maximum = All?

Rubbish. You don't have a clue!

[YFred]

Freddy old boy, as the OP, any chance of declaring a result on your poll and perhaps some concluding remarks for our amusement. Thank you.

Dear Bill,
88 % are delusional for choosing first and the last option. Neither is about to happen. So they don’t have a clue.

10% including myself I might add got it spot on. Choosing either second or third options which are plausible

2% don’t have a clue.

So the don’t have a clues win by 90%.
Any constructive comments will noted for the future polls.

Your poll is rubbish!

You give the options: maximum/minimum GCs back to their homes & all back to their homes. What are the constrains that define maximum and minimum? Is maximum = All?

Rubbish. You don't have a clue!

You of all people have no clue at all. You are that 2 %. Read the poll question. It did not say a solution. It clearly said the approach to a solution. Details can be discussed so long as the approach is agreed upon.
Back to your Gasha.

[Sotos]

Freddy old boy, as the OP, any chance of declaring a result on your poll and perhaps some concluding remarks for our amusement. Thank you.

Dear Bill,
88 % are delusional for choosing first and the last option. Neither is about to happen. So they don’t have a clue.

10% including myself I might add got it spot on. Choosing either second or third options which are plausible

2% don’t have a clue.

So the don’t have a clues win by 90%.
Any constructive comments will noted for the future polls.

Your poll is rubbish!

You give the options: maximum/minimum GCs back to their homes & all back to their homes. What are the constrains that define maximum and minimum? Is maximum = All?

Rubbish. You don't have a clue!

Minimum and maximum is the same with ALL. Why should even one person be deprived of his homeland because of the thieving Turks? This is a violation of our human rights and it is not acceptable!

[YFred]

Freddy old boy, as the OP, any chance of declaring a result on your poll and perhaps some concluding remarks for our amusement. Thank you.

Dear Bill,
88 % are delusional for choosing first and the last option. Neither is about to happen. So they don’t have a clue.

10% including myself I might add got it spot on. Choosing either second or third options which are plausible

2% don’t have a clue.

So the don’t have a clues win by 90%.
Any constructive comments will noted for the future polls.

Your poll is rubbish!

You give the options: maximum/minimum GCs back to their homes & all back to their homes. What are the constrains that define maximum and minimum? Is maximum = All?

Rubbish. You don't have a clue!

Minimum and maximum is the same with ALL. Why should even one person be deprived of his homeland because of the thieving Turks? This is a violation of our human rights and it is not acceptable!

You see that is the problem with this forum. No matter what the Thread says, the argument is always the same.

Surely, before you discuss a solution, the approach has to be decided.
Then the solution will be found from within that. It simple and practiced all over the world for all sorts of problems. Whic is why some succeed and others fail. And guess what which one the CypProb is in?
I wonder Why?