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Is Turkish Airlines Unsafe?

Postby Paphitis » Thu Mar 05, 2009 1:22 pm

This may be of interest to some of you.

I have found a rather long list of Turkish Airlines Crashes and Incidents.

Turkish Airlines has had a whopping 13 fatal accidents since 1959, including the DC-10 crash in France which killed 346 passengers.

http://www.airdisaster.com/cgi-bin/airl ... h+Airlines

This is definitely one of the worst safety records I have seen.

Such a deplorable record seems to be consistent with a third world Airline Operation or Aeroflot!

Is Turkish Airlines an unsafe Airline?
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Postby Oracle » Thu Mar 05, 2009 2:04 pm

There have been some allusions to this possibility ...

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldne ... ecord.html

Turkish Airlines safety record

More than 500 people have died on Turkish Airlines flights since 1971, including 346 in one go during one of the worst accidents in the history of flight.

By Peter Allen in Paris
Last Updated: 8:54PM GMT 25 Feb 2009 The Telegraph

Including yesterday's disaster, there have been six major accidents in that time.

The worst came in March 1974 when explosive decompression over France led to a TA plane crashing with the loss all 346 on board.

The cause was later established as a design fault on the cargo door of the DC-10 involved, which was named after the Turkish capital, Ankara.

More recently, in January 2008, an Avro RJ-100 belong to TA crashed on the approach to Diyarbakir Airport in Turkey, with 75 of the 80 passengers and crew killed.

In April 1999 a Boeing 737 crashed in the Mediterranean port of Ceyhan, just eight minutes after take off.

There were no passengers on board, but all six crew members died in the accident.

In December 1994 a Boeing 737 crashed during its final approach to land at Van Ferit Melen Airport in Turkey in driving snow, with 52 passengers and five crew killed.

And in January 1983 a Boeing 727 landed short of the runway at Ankara Esenboga Airport in driving snow, before breaking up and catching fire. All of the crew survived, but 47 passengers died.

Others have died or been seriously injured in other TA flights, with the airline recording three major accidents on international flights, and 18 on domestic ones during its 75 year history.

The airline's first ever fatal accident happened as far back as February 1959 when a Vickers Viscount Type 793 crashed in heavy fog at Gatwick Airport.

The flight was carrying the Turkish prime minister, Adnan Menderes, to London for the signing of a diplomatic treaty.

Of 16 passengers and eight crew on board there were ten survivors, including Menderes.
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Postby Oracle » Thu Mar 05, 2009 2:06 pm

I wonder what he was signing? :?

The airline's first ever fatal accident happened as far back as February 1959 when a Vickers Viscount Type 793 crashed in heavy fog at Gatwick Airport.

The flight was carrying the Turkish prime minister, Adnan Menderes, to London for the signing of a diplomatic treaty.

Of 16 passengers and eight crew on board there were ten survivors, including Menderes.
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Postby Paphitis » Thu Mar 05, 2009 2:24 pm

More recently, in January 2008, an Avro RJ-100 belong to TA crashed on the approach to Diyarbakir Airport in Turkey, with 75 of the 80 passengers and crew killed.


:?

I could not remember this accident.. :?

The RJ-100 crash was not in 2008 as reported by the Telegraph but occurred in 2003.

Here is some more info about this particular air disaster.

http://www.iasa.com.au/folders/Safety_I ... agery.html
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Postby Paphitis » Thu Mar 05, 2009 2:26 pm

Oracle wrote:I wonder what he was signing? :?

The airline's first ever fatal accident happened as far back as February 1959 when a Vickers Viscount Type 793 crashed in heavy fog at Gatwick Airport.

The flight was carrying the Turkish prime minister, Adnan Menderes, to London for the signing of a diplomatic treaty.

Of 16 passengers and eight crew on board there were ten survivors, including Menderes.


I have a hunch that this treaty might have had something to do with the 1959 Zurich Treaties of Guarantee or something else to do with Cyprus....:lol:
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Postby Tim Drayton » Thu Mar 05, 2009 2:29 pm

Paphitis wrote:
Oracle wrote:I wonder what he was signing? :?

The airline's first ever fatal accident happened as far back as February 1959 when a Vickers Viscount Type 793 crashed in heavy fog at Gatwick Airport.

The flight was carrying the Turkish prime minister, Adnan Menderes, to London for the signing of a diplomatic treaty.

Of 16 passengers and eight crew on board there were ten survivors, including Menderes.


I have a hunch that this treaty might have had something to do with the 1959 Zurich Treaties of Guarantee or something else to do with Cyprus....:lol:


You are right, and conspiracy theories abound about this:

http://news.bbc.co.uk/onthisday/hi/date ... 546299.stm
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Postby Tim Drayton » Thu Mar 05, 2009 2:33 pm

Turkish Airlines does not score very well in the following tables, either:

http://www.planecrashinfo.com/rates.htm
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Postby Oracle » Thu Mar 05, 2009 2:35 pm

Tim Drayton wrote:
Paphitis wrote:
Oracle wrote:I wonder what he was signing? :?

The airline's first ever fatal accident happened as far back as February 1959 when a Vickers Viscount Type 793 crashed in heavy fog at Gatwick Airport.

The flight was carrying the Turkish prime minister, Adnan Menderes, to London for the signing of a diplomatic treaty.

Of 16 passengers and eight crew on board there were ten survivors, including Menderes.


I have a hunch that this treaty might have had something to do with the 1959 Zurich Treaties of Guarantee or something else to do with Cyprus....:lol:


You are right, and conspiracy theories abound about this:

http://news.bbc.co.uk/onthisday/hi/date ... 546299.stm


Thanks Tim ... I got called away and couldn't chase it up!

Interesting .... :?

From his hospital bed, two days later, Mr Menderes initialled a new Cyprus peace agreement made between the Greek, British and Cypriot leaders.
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Postby Oracle » Thu Mar 05, 2009 2:37 pm

Paphitis wrote:
More recently, in January 2008, an Avro RJ-100 belong to TA crashed on the approach to Diyarbakir Airport in Turkey, with 75 of the 80 passengers and crew killed.


:?

I could not remember this accident.. :?

The RJ-100 crash was not in 2008 as reported by the Telegraph but occurred in 2003.

Here is some more info about this particular air disaster.

http://www.iasa.com.au/folders/Safety_I ... agery.html


It looks like it could be a typo ... the 8 for 3.
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Postby Get Real! » Thu Mar 05, 2009 3:06 pm

Ok, so Turkish Airlines had 13 accidents, Greece’s Olympic Airways had 4, and Cyprus Airways had none!

Things have to be put into perspective… how many flights have Turkish Airlines conducted in the last 50 years compared to Olympic, and then compared to Cyprus airways?

The greater the population, the greater the number of flights, and thus the greater the likelihood of an accident occurring.

Don’t get me wrong, I’m down for a Turkey bash but ONLY for the right reasons.
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