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Postby Paphitis » Thu Mar 05, 2009 4:16 pm

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Tim Drayton wrote:Olympic Airways outperforms Turkish Airways, but using the same metric also compares very poorly to other European airlines.

Thanks for the tables Tim, as I said... if you compare the number of passengers Turkish airlines carried against Olympic they're in the same boat!


Did you know that Olympic Airways is one of only 2 international airlines that has not had a major Jet Crash?

Olympic Aviation and Olympic Airways are not the same company.

And when I say International Airlines, I do not include Cyprus Airways which I regard as a Regional Airline only.


Why is it a regional airline?


Because it only flies on certain European and Middle Eastern routes.


It flies to 3 continents and its regional? :?


Oh, I forgot!

It flies to Cairo as well.... :lol:

The pilots must be so fatigued after this long haul sector... :lol:


You mock?

How many regional airlines do you know who fly A330's and carry out 5-6 hr flights?

As far as I know a regional airline owns a bunch of 737's or A320(or A319's or A321's) and flies the region...


They are only Airbus and ageing at that. And they only have 2 A330s as well.

I think you can pretty much class them as a Regional Carrier.

BTW, there are Regional Airlines out there that operate B747 and A340s.
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Postby DT. » Thu Mar 05, 2009 4:19 pm

Paphitis wrote:
DT. wrote:
Paphitis wrote:
DT. wrote:
Paphitis wrote:
DT. wrote:
Paphitis wrote:
Get Real! wrote:
Tim Drayton wrote:Olympic Airways outperforms Turkish Airways, but using the same metric also compares very poorly to other European airlines.

Thanks for the tables Tim, as I said... if you compare the number of passengers Turkish airlines carried against Olympic they're in the same boat!


Did you know that Olympic Airways is one of only 2 international airlines that has not had a major Jet Crash?

Olympic Aviation and Olympic Airways are not the same company.

And when I say International Airlines, I do not include Cyprus Airways which I regard as a Regional Airline only.


Why is it a regional airline?


Because it only flies on certain European and Middle Eastern routes.


It flies to 3 continents and its regional? :?


Oh, I forgot!

It flies to Cairo as well.... :lol:

The pilots must be so fatigued after this long haul sector... :lol:


You mock?

How many regional airlines do you know who fly A330's and carry out 5-6 hr flights?

As far as I know a regional airline owns a bunch of 737's or A320(or A319's or A321's) and flies the region...


They are only Airbus and aging at that. And they only have 2 A330s as well.

BTW, there are Regional Airlines out there that operate B747 and A340s.

I think you can pretty much class them as a Regional Carrier.


They're only 6 years old! Who told you they're ageing?
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Postby Paphitis » Thu Mar 05, 2009 4:22 pm

DT. wrote:
Paphitis wrote:
DT. wrote:
Paphitis wrote:
DT. wrote:
Paphitis wrote:
DT. wrote:
Paphitis wrote:
Get Real! wrote:
Tim Drayton wrote:Olympic Airways outperforms Turkish Airways, but using the same metric also compares very poorly to other European airlines.

Thanks for the tables Tim, as I said... if you compare the number of passengers Turkish airlines carried against Olympic they're in the same boat!


Did you know that Olympic Airways is one of only 2 international airlines that has not had a major Jet Crash?

Olympic Aviation and Olympic Airways are not the same company.

And when I say International Airlines, I do not include Cyprus Airways which I regard as a Regional Airline only.


Why is it a regional airline?


Because it only flies on certain European and Middle Eastern routes.


It flies to 3 continents and its regional? :?


Oh, I forgot!

It flies to Cairo as well.... :lol:

The pilots must be so fatigued after this long haul sector... :lol:


You mock?

How many regional airlines do you know who fly A330's and carry out 5-6 hr flights?

As far as I know a regional airline owns a bunch of 737's or A320(or A319's or A321's) and flies the region...


They are only Airbus and aging at that. And they only have 2 A330s as well.

BTW, there are Regional Airlines out there that operate B747 and A340s.

I think you can pretty much class them as a Regional Carrier.


They're only 6 years old! Who told you they're ageing?


What is the average age of the A320 fleet?

Anyway, this is besides the point. Cy Air only fly regional routes and this is why I regard them a Regional Carrier.
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Postby Paphitis » Thu Mar 05, 2009 4:23 pm

DT. wrote:
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Paphitis wrote:
Tim Drayton wrote:
Paphitis wrote:
Get Real! wrote:
Tim Drayton wrote:Olympic Airways outperforms Turkish Airways, but using the same metric also compares very poorly to other European airlines.

Thanks for the tables Tim, as I said... if you compare the number of passengers Turkish airlines carried against Olympic they're in the same boat!


Did you know that Olympic Airways is one of only 2 international airlines that has not had a major Jet Crash?

Olympic Aviation and Olympic Airways are not the same company.

And when I say International Airlines, I do not include Cyprus Airways which I regard as a Regional Airline only.


That is because their last serious crash, in which all 34 passengers perished, involved a propellor-driven aircraft:

http://query.nytimes.com/gst/fullpage.h ... A96F948260

Who's a clever propagandist, then?


And because Olympic Aviation and Olympic Airways are 2 seperate companies.

This is not about propaganda. For all I care, THY can be the safest airline in the world and Olympic can be the unsafest. I was just surprised that it had 13 fatal accidents, which is pretty big by International Standards unless you compare to Aeroflot and such like.


The source quoted above names the airline as "Olympic Airways". Have they got that wrong, then?


Olympic airlines and Olympic Aviation are not 2 separate companies. They merged in 2003.


Yes but all the recorded accidents were under the Olympic Aviation banner and hence they were separate airlines when these accidents occurred, if you want to be technically correct.
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Postby DT. » Thu Mar 05, 2009 4:24 pm

Paphitis wrote:
DT. wrote:
Paphitis wrote:
DT. wrote:
Paphitis wrote:
DT. wrote:
Paphitis wrote:
DT. wrote:
Paphitis wrote:
Get Real! wrote:
Tim Drayton wrote:Olympic Airways outperforms Turkish Airways, but using the same metric also compares very poorly to other European airlines.

Thanks for the tables Tim, as I said... if you compare the number of passengers Turkish airlines carried against Olympic they're in the same boat!


Did you know that Olympic Airways is one of only 2 international airlines that has not had a major Jet Crash?

Olympic Aviation and Olympic Airways are not the same company.

And when I say International Airlines, I do not include Cyprus Airways which I regard as a Regional Airline only.


Why is it a regional airline?


Because it only flies on certain European and Middle Eastern routes.


It flies to 3 continents and its regional? :?


Oh, I forgot!

It flies to Cairo as well.... :lol:

The pilots must be so fatigued after this long haul sector... :lol:


You mock?

How many regional airlines do you know who fly A330's and carry out 5-6 hr flights?

As far as I know a regional airline owns a bunch of 737's or A320(or A319's or A321's) and flies the region...


They are only Airbus and aging at that. And they only have 2 A330s as well.

BTW, there are Regional Airlines out there that operate B747 and A340s.

I think you can pretty much class them as a Regional Carrier.


They're only 6 years old! Who told you they're ageing?


What is the average age of the A320 fleet?

Anyway, this is besides the point. Cy Air only fly regional routes and this is why I regard them a Regional Carrier.


They're not regional routes if they're flying international. It just so happens that barring the US, all important destinations (in the world of business and finance) are close by. Just because you Ozzies need to fly 24hrs to get anywhere doesn't mean we all need A380's!
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Postby DT. » Thu Mar 05, 2009 4:25 pm

Paphitis wrote:
DT. wrote:
Paphitis wrote:
DT. wrote:
Paphitis wrote:
DT. wrote:
Paphitis wrote:
DT. wrote:
Paphitis wrote:
Get Real! wrote:
Tim Drayton wrote:Olympic Airways outperforms Turkish Airways, but using the same metric also compares very poorly to other European airlines.

Thanks for the tables Tim, as I said... if you compare the number of passengers Turkish airlines carried against Olympic they're in the same boat!


Did you know that Olympic Airways is one of only 2 international airlines that has not had a major Jet Crash?

Olympic Aviation and Olympic Airways are not the same company.

And when I say International Airlines, I do not include Cyprus Airways which I regard as a Regional Airline only.


Why is it a regional airline?


Because it only flies on certain European and Middle Eastern routes.


It flies to 3 continents and its regional? :?


Oh, I forgot!

It flies to Cairo as well.... :lol:

The pilots must be so fatigued after this long haul sector... :lol:


You mock?

How many regional airlines do you know who fly A330's and carry out 5-6 hr flights?

As far as I know a regional airline owns a bunch of 737's or A320(or A319's or A321's) and flies the region...


They are only Airbus and aging at that. And they only have 2 A330s as well.

BTW, there are Regional Airlines out there that operate B747 and A340s.

I think you can pretty much class them as a Regional Carrier.


They're only 6 years old! Who told you they're ageing?


What is the average age of the A320 fleet?

Anyway, this is besides the point. Cy Air only fly regional routes and this is why I regard them a Regional Carrier.


the A320's have started being replaced with A321's
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Postby Paphitis » Thu Mar 05, 2009 4:27 pm

DT. wrote:
Paphitis wrote:
DT. wrote:
Paphitis wrote:
DT. wrote:
Paphitis wrote:
DT. wrote:
Paphitis wrote:
DT. wrote:
Paphitis wrote:
Get Real! wrote:
Tim Drayton wrote:Olympic Airways outperforms Turkish Airways, but using the same metric also compares very poorly to other European airlines.

Thanks for the tables Tim, as I said... if you compare the number of passengers Turkish airlines carried against Olympic they're in the same boat!


Did you know that Olympic Airways is one of only 2 international airlines that has not had a major Jet Crash?

Olympic Aviation and Olympic Airways are not the same company.

And when I say International Airlines, I do not include Cyprus Airways which I regard as a Regional Airline only.


Why is it a regional airline?


Because it only flies on certain European and Middle Eastern routes.


It flies to 3 continents and its regional? :?


Oh, I forgot!

It flies to Cairo as well.... :lol:

The pilots must be so fatigued after this long haul sector... :lol:


You mock?

How many regional airlines do you know who fly A330's and carry out 5-6 hr flights?

As far as I know a regional airline owns a bunch of 737's or A320(or A319's or A321's) and flies the region...


They are only Airbus and aging at that. And they only have 2 A330s as well.

BTW, there are Regional Airlines out there that operate B747 and A340s.

I think you can pretty much class them as a Regional Carrier.


They're only 6 years old! Who told you they're ageing?


What is the average age of the A320 fleet?

Anyway, this is besides the point. Cy Air only fly regional routes and this is why I regard them a Regional Carrier.


They're not regional routes if they're flying international. It just so happens that barring the US, all important destinations (in the world of business and finance) are close by. Just because you Ozzies need to fly 24hrs to get anywhere doesn't mean we all need A380's!
:lol:


Cyprus Airways is just the same as one of Australia's many Domestic Airlines except for the fact that the Australian Domestic Airlines are much larger and more modern.. :lol:

The distances involved on these short sectors are the same between Australian Domestic routes as they are for Cy Air International Routes... :lol:
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Postby Paphitis » Thu Mar 05, 2009 4:29 pm

DT. wrote:
Paphitis wrote:
DT. wrote:
Paphitis wrote:
DT. wrote:
Paphitis wrote:
DT. wrote:
Paphitis wrote:
DT. wrote:
Paphitis wrote:
Get Real! wrote:
Tim Drayton wrote:Olympic Airways outperforms Turkish Airways, but using the same metric also compares very poorly to other European airlines.

Thanks for the tables Tim, as I said... if you compare the number of passengers Turkish airlines carried against Olympic they're in the same boat!


Did you know that Olympic Airways is one of only 2 international airlines that has not had a major Jet Crash?

Olympic Aviation and Olympic Airways are not the same company.

And when I say International Airlines, I do not include Cyprus Airways which I regard as a Regional Airline only.


Why is it a regional airline?


Because it only flies on certain European and Middle Eastern routes.


It flies to 3 continents and its regional? :?


Oh, I forgot!

It flies to Cairo as well.... :lol:

The pilots must be so fatigued after this long haul sector... :lol:


You mock?

How many regional airlines do you know who fly A330's and carry out 5-6 hr flights?

As far as I know a regional airline owns a bunch of 737's or A320(or A319's or A321's) and flies the region...


They are only Airbus and aging at that. And they only have 2 A330s as well.

BTW, there are Regional Airlines out there that operate B747 and A340s.

I think you can pretty much class them as a Regional Carrier.


They're only 6 years old! Who told you they're ageing?


What is the average age of the A320 fleet?

Anyway, this is besides the point. Cy Air only fly regional routes and this is why I regard them a Regional Carrier.


the A320's have started being replaced with A321's


You guys still have not learned your lesson... :?

Stop buying flimsy Airbus and go Boeing... :lol:
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Postby CBBB » Thu Mar 05, 2009 4:32 pm

Paphitis wrote:
DT. wrote:
Paphitis wrote:
DT. wrote:
Paphitis wrote:
DT. wrote:
Paphitis wrote:
DT. wrote:
Paphitis wrote:
DT. wrote:
Paphitis wrote:
Get Real! wrote:
Tim Drayton wrote:Olympic Airways outperforms Turkish Airways, but using the same metric also compares very poorly to other European airlines.

Thanks for the tables Tim, as I said... if you compare the number of passengers Turkish airlines carried against Olympic they're in the same boat!


Did you know that Olympic Airways is one of only 2 international airlines that has not had a major Jet Crash?

Olympic Aviation and Olympic Airways are not the same company.

And when I say International Airlines, I do not include Cyprus Airways which I regard as a Regional Airline only.


Why is it a regional airline?


Because it only flies on certain European and Middle Eastern routes.


It flies to 3 continents and its regional? :?


Oh, I forgot!

It flies to Cairo as well.... :lol:

The pilots must be so fatigued after this long haul sector... :lol:


You mock?

How many regional airlines do you know who fly A330's and carry out 5-6 hr flights?

As far as I know a regional airline owns a bunch of 737's or A320(or A319's or A321's) and flies the region...


They are only Airbus and aging at that. And they only have 2 A330s as well.

BTW, there are Regional Airlines out there that operate B747 and A340s.

I think you can pretty much class them as a Regional Carrier.


They're only 6 years old! Who told you they're ageing?


What is the average age of the A320 fleet?

Anyway, this is besides the point. Cy Air only fly regional routes and this is why I regard them a Regional Carrier.


the A320's have started being replaced with A321's


You guys still have not learned your lesson... :?

Stop buying flimsy Airbus and go Boeing... :lol:


What, you mean the ones that fall out of the sky?
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Postby DT. » Thu Mar 05, 2009 4:33 pm

Paphitis wrote:
DT. wrote:
Paphitis wrote:
DT. wrote:
Paphitis wrote:
DT. wrote:
Paphitis wrote:
DT. wrote:
Paphitis wrote:
DT. wrote:
Paphitis wrote:
Get Real! wrote:
Tim Drayton wrote:Olympic Airways outperforms Turkish Airways, but using the same metric also compares very poorly to other European airlines.

Thanks for the tables Tim, as I said... if you compare the number of passengers Turkish airlines carried against Olympic they're in the same boat!


Did you know that Olympic Airways is one of only 2 international airlines that has not had a major Jet Crash?

Olympic Aviation and Olympic Airways are not the same company.

And when I say International Airlines, I do not include Cyprus Airways which I regard as a Regional Airline only.


Why is it a regional airline?


Because it only flies on certain European and Middle Eastern routes.


It flies to 3 continents and its regional? :?


Oh, I forgot!

It flies to Cairo as well.... :lol:

The pilots must be so fatigued after this long haul sector... :lol:


You mock?

How many regional airlines do you know who fly A330's and carry out 5-6 hr flights?

As far as I know a regional airline owns a bunch of 737's or A320(or A319's or A321's) and flies the region...


They are only Airbus and aging at that. And they only have 2 A330s as well.

BTW, there are Regional Airlines out there that operate B747 and A340s.

I think you can pretty much class them as a Regional Carrier.


They're only 6 years old! Who told you they're ageing?


What is the average age of the A320 fleet?

Anyway, this is besides the point. Cy Air only fly regional routes and this is why I regard them a Regional Carrier.


They're not regional routes if they're flying international. It just so happens that barring the US, all important destinations (in the world of business and finance) are close by. Just because you Ozzies need to fly 24hrs to get anywhere doesn't mean we all need A380's!
:lol:


Cyprus Airways is just the same as one of Australia's many Domestic Airlines except for the fact that the Australian Domestic Airlines are much larger and more modern.. :lol:

The distances involved on these short sectors are the same between Australian Domestic routes as they are for Cy Air International Routes... :lol:


You fly all that time and still you're in the middle of f**** nowhere in Australia. Wheras you get on the plane here and voila....you're in Paris.
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