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Postby DT. » Thu Mar 05, 2009 12:01 pm

Excellent article by Sener Levent. I'll try and get it translated for the non-greek speakers.

Ηρωικέ στρατέ, τι πράγματα είσαι ικανός να κάνεις εσύ...





Οι στρατιωτικές αρχές στη βόρεια Κύπρο έχουν αρκετές απώλειες στο θέμα του λαθρεμπορίου ανθρώπων που διεξάγεται εδώ, αλλά φαίνεται πως τα καταφέρνουν αρκετά καλά στις ψυχολογικές επιχειρήσεις και στο να μας παρακολουθούν βήμα προς βήμα. Συνέστησαν μιαν αψεγάδιαστη υπηρεσία παρακολούθησης. Και παρακολουθούν τα τηλέφωνά μας. Τα μεσάνυκτα μας δίδουν σημάδια ότι μας παρακολουθούν πολύ στενά. Μας στέλνουν ήσυχα το μήνυμα ότι "ξέρουμε πού ήσασταν και τι κάνατε". Βγαίνουν μπροστά μας τις πιο προχωρημένες βραδινές ώρες με τηλεφωνήματα που δεν αποκαλύπτεται ο αριθμός του τηλεφώνου που μας καλεί. Προηγουμένως υπήρχαν ύβρεις και απειλές σε αυτά τα τηλεφωνήματα. Τώρα κάνουν αισθητή την παρουσία τους σιωπώντας. Μου τηλεφώνησε ένας συνταγματάρχης σχετικά με μια είδηση που δημοσιεύτηκε στην εφημερίδα μας πριν μερικούς μήνες αναφορικά με το στρατό. Σε κάποια φάση της συνομιλίας μας με ρώτησε το εξής: "Τι θέλει η εφημερίδα Αφρίκα από τις Τουρκικές Ειρηνευτικές Δυνάμεις Κύπρου και τον τουρκικό στρατό;" Απάντησα με ερώτηση σε αυτή του την ερώτηση: "Ο στρατός τι θέλει από εμάς;".

Εκείνοι που επιλήφθηκαν της υπόθεσης Εργκένεκον στην Τουρκία, δυστυχώς, αμέλησαν την υπόθεση αυτή στην Κύπρο. Γράψαμε και είπαμε τόσα πολλά. Αλλά ακόμη δεν τολμούν να αγγίξουν τα τεκταινόμενα εδώ. Μήπως οι ανεξιχνίαστες βομβιστικές επιθέσεις που διενεργήθηκαν στην Τουρκία ήταν βομβιστικές επιθέσεις και αυτές που διενεργήθηκαν εδώ δεν ήταν; Αφού διερευνάται η δολοφονία του Ουγούρ Μουμτζού σε αυτό το λογαριασμό, γιατί δεν γίνεται αναφορά και στη δολοφονία του Κουτλού Ανταλί; Ακόμη και η εφημερίδα 'Ταράφ' που βάδισε με θάρρος κατά των στρατιωτικών στην Τουρκία δεν μπορεί να διερευνήσει όπως πρέπει το θέμα της Εργκένεκον στη θυγατέρα πατρίδα. Το γεγονός ότι αυτό το θέμα διασυνδέεται συνεχώς με το Σχέδιο Ανάν και δημιουργείται ένα κλίμα σαν να εμφανίστηκε μόνο την περίοδο εκείνη η Εργκένεκον στην Κύπρο, αποσπά την προσοχή τόσο από τη δολοφονία Ανταλί όσο και από πάρα πολλές βομβιστικές επιθέσεις. Σαν να είναι εσκεμμένα που δεν γίνεται καθόλου αναφορά ειδικά στις επιχειρήσεις που διοργάνωσε ο στρατός κατά της εφημερίδας μας. Κι όμως, οι δύο πιο ισχυρές βόμβες εδώ εξερράγησαν στην εφημερίδα μας. Είναι μήπως τόσο ασήμαντο γεγονός για να περνάει στο ντούκου η έκρηξη βόμβας δύο φορές στα γραφεία μιας καθημερινής εφημερίδας; Ή μήπως επιτρέπεται να τοποθετείται βόμβα εναντίον μας επειδή θεωρούμε κατοχική δύναμη τον τουρκικό στρατό εδώ;
Κοιτάξτε. Κοιτάξτε με πόση ευκολία διεξάγεται λαθρεμπόριο ανθρώπων εδώ ενώ στη χώρα αυτή υπάρχουν 40 χιλιάδες Τούρκοι στρατιώτες, τρεις χιλιάδες των δυνάμεων ασφαλείας και τόση πολλή αστυνομία. Με πόση ευκολία διοχετεύονται ναρκωτικά εδώ; Μήπως αυτό δεν προκαλεί έκπληξη και σε εσάς; Και τι δεν μας διηγείται ο Κιβάντς Άκτουγ, επικεφαλής της αποστολής του ΟΗΕ εδώ, που συνελήφθη και αφέθη ελεύθερος με εγγύηση μετά από δέκα μέρες. Η αστυνομία του παρέδιδε, λέει, τους μετανάστες και εκείνος τους έβαζε σε μια πανσιόν στην εντός των τειχών περιοχή της Λευκωσία. Την επόμενη μέρα οι μετανάστες αυτοί χάνονταν, λέει, από την πανσιόν εκείνη! Με αυτό τον τρόπο χάθηκαν 530 άτομα! Τι δουλειά είναι αυτή. Σίγουρα δεν χάθηκαν όλα μαζί αυτά τα 530 άτομα. Άλλωστε δεν χωράνε όλοι μαζί σε εκείνες τις πανσιόν. Αν χάθηκαν θα χάθηκαν πέντε πέντε, είκοσι είκοσι ή ξέρω κι εγώ ίσως και σαράντα σαράντα. Δεν λήφθηκαν μέτρα όταν άρχισαν οι εξαφανίσεις; Πρέπει να υπάρχουν και πράγματα που δεν μας είπε ο Κιβάντς Άκτουγ. Αν τα αποκαλύψει μπορεί να γίνει χαμός. Να τεθεί σε κίνδυνο η ζωή του. Βρέθηκαν, λέει, 28 χιλιάδες δολάρια και λίγα ευρώ στο σπίτι του. Στο δε λογαριασμό του οδηγού ταξί με τον οποίο συνεργαζόταν βρέθηκαν συνολικά 100 χιλιάδες δολάρια. Αν είναι μόνο αυτά, τα υπόλοιπα πού είναι; Ο αριθμός των μεταναστών που πέρασαν παράνομα στην ελληνοκυπριακή πλευρά από το Μάιο του 2008 ανέρχεται στους 5844. Αυτό λέει η έκθεση της Επιτροπής της ΕΕ. Σύμφωνα με την έκθεση, 5710 από αυτούς πέρασαν στο νότο μέσω της Πράσινης Γραμμής. Δεδομένου ότι κάθε μετανάστης πλήρωνε πέντε χιλιάδες δολάρια, ο λογαριασμός αυτός ανέρχεται στα 25 εκατομμύρια. Στις τσέπες ποιων μπήκαν αυτά;
Βλέπετε συχνά στις ειδήσεις πως συλλαμβάνονται άτομα επειδή παραβίασαν την απαγορευμένη στρατιωτική περιοχή. Τι μεγάλη επιτυχία! Εκείνοι συλλαμβάνονται. Οι λαθραίοι όμως δεν συλλαμβάνονται! 530 άτομα μπορούν να περάσουν κάτω από τη μύτη του στρατού που δεν αφήνει ούτε πουλί να πετάξει στα σύνορα! Σίγουρα οι μυστικές υπηρεσίες που αποκαλούνται Προεδρία Πολιτικών Υποθέσεων δεν βρίσκουν χρόνο και ευκαιρία να επιληφθούν των θεμάτων αυτών λόγω του ότι παρακολουθούν εμάς και τα τηλέφωνά μας!



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Postby DT. » Thu Mar 05, 2009 12:04 pm

I'm lazy so I used google tranlsation...still the english is almost at par with Ricco's.

The military authorities in northern Cyprus have enough losses to the issue of human smuggling that is going on here, but seems to manage quite well on psychological operations and to follow our step by step. They advocated for a faultless service monitoring. And monitor our phones. Midnight, give us signs that we monitor very closely. We are quietly sending the message that "we know where you were and what you did." Leave us the most advanced night with phone calls not reveal the number of phone calls on us. Previously there were insults and threats to these calls. Now make their presence felt in silence. I telephoned a colonel on a news article published in our newspaper a few months ago with the army. At some stage in our conversation he asked me this: "What Africa wants the newspaper by the Turkish Peace Forces Cyprus and the Turkish army?" I replied to this question in the question: "The army that wants from us?".

Those who addressed the case in Turkey Ergkenekon sadly neglected the case in Cyprus. Written and said so much. But not even dare to touch what is happening here. Do inexplicable carried out bombings in Turkey bombings were carried out and they were not here? Having investigated the assassination of Ougour Moumtzou this account, because there is no reference to the assassination of Koutlis exchange? Even the newspaper, Taraf, to march with courage in the military in Turkey can not be investigated as should the issue of Ergkenekon in her daughter home. The fact that this issue is constantly interfacing with the Annan Plan and created a climate appeared as if the only time the Ergkenekon in Cyprus, distracts attention from the murder of exchange and numerous bombings. As is deliberately not made any specific reference to operations organized by the army against our newspaper. However, the two most powerful bombs exploded here in our newspaper. Is it so unimportant fact to pass the check in twice a bomb explosion at a daily newspaper? Or will be placed a bomb against us because we feel the force occupying Turkish army here?
Look. Look how easily conducted while smuggling people here in this country there are 40 thousand Turkish soldiers, three thousand of the security forces and police so much. How easily diverted drug here Is not it surprising to you? And what we told the Kivants Aktoug headed the UN mission here, who was arrested and released on bail after ten days. The police gave, say, immigrants and he put them in a boarding house in the area within the walls of Nicosia. The next day they lost migrants, says that the pension! In this way, 530 people lost! What business is it. Certainly not lost all together these 530 people. Does not fit together in those pension. If we lost five lost five, twenty or twenty and I know maybe forty forty. No steps were taken when their disappearances? There must be things that we said Kivants Aktoug. If the reveal could be doom. Jeopardizing their lives. Found, say, 28 thousand dollars and a few Euros at home. And in behalf of the taxi driver who has found a total of 100 thousand dollars. If only they, where are the rest? The number of migrants who illegally entered the Greek Cypriot side since May 2008 amounts to 5844. This report tells of According to the report, 5,710 of them went south through the Green Line. As each immigrant paid five thousand dollars, this account amounts to 25 million. In pockets of what they did?
You see that often in the news because people are arrested violated a restricted military area. What a great success! Those arrested. The undeclared but not arrested! 530 people can pass under the nose of the army that leaves neither a bird to fly at the border! Surely the Secret Service called Presidency of Civil Affairs did not find time and opportunity to address these issues because they watch us and call us!

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Postby Tim Drayton » Thu Mar 05, 2009 12:08 pm

Here is the article in Turkish if it helps some people:

Kuzey Kıbrıs’taki askeri makamlar buradaki insan kaçakçılığında oldukça fire vermiş, ama bizi adım adım izlemekte ve psikolojik harekatta oldukça başarılı olmuş görünüyorlar. Kusursuz bir dinleme servisi kurmuşlar... Telefonlarımızı dinliyorlar. Gecyarıları bizi çok yakından izlediklerine dair sinyaller veriyorlar. ‘Nerede olduğunuzu, ne yaptığınızı biliyoruz’ mesajları yolluyorlar sessizce... Kendini ele vermeyen telefon numaraları ile çıkıyorlar karşımıza gecenin en ilerlemiş saatlerinde... Daha önceleri küfür ve tehdit de vardı bu telefonlarda... Şimdi susarak kendilerini hissettiriyorlar. Geçtiğimiz aylarda gazetemizde çıkan ve askeri makamları ilgilendiren bir haberle ilgili olarak beni aramıştı bir albay... Ve konuşmamızın bir yerinde sormuştu: -Afrika gazetesinin Kıbrıs Türk Barış Kuvvetleri’nden, Türk ordusundan istediği nedir? Onun bu sorusuna soruyla karşılık verdim ben de: -Ordunun bizden istediği ne?
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Türkiye’de Ergenekon’un üstüne gidenler ne yazık Kıbrıs’ta bu işi savsaklıyorlar... O kadar yazıp söyledik... Ama burada olup bitenleri ellemeye cesaret edemiyorlar hala. Türkiye’deki faili meçhul bombalar bomba da, buradakiler bomba değil mi? Uğur Mumcu cinayeti hesapta araştırılıyor da, Kutlu Adalı cinayetinden neden hiç söz edilmiyor? Türkiye’de askerin üstüne cesaretle yürüyen ‘Taraf’ gazetesi bile yavru Ergenekon’u gerektiği gibi didikleyemiyor... Bunun hep Annan Planı ile ilişkilendirilmesi ve sanki Ergenekon yalnız bu dönemde Kıbrıs’ta ortaya çıkmış gibi bir hava estirilmesi, hem Adalı cinayetini, hem de pek çok bomba olayını gözlerden kaçırıyor... Özellikle gazetemize karşı asker tarafından düzenlenen operasyonlardan sanki bilinçli bir şekilde hiç bahsedilmiyor. Burada patlayan en şiddetli iki bomba gazetemizde patladı oysa... Günlük bir gazetenin matbaasının iki kez üstüste bombalanması öyle es geçilecek kadar önemsiz mi? Yoksa biz buradaki Türk askerini işgalci sayıyoruz diye bizim bombalanmamız mübah mı?
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Bakın... Bu ülkede 40 bin kişilik Türk ordusu, 3 bin kişilik Güvenlik Kuvvetleri Komutanlığı ordusu ve bir o kadar da polis ordusu varken, ne kadar rahatlıkla insan kaçakçılığı yapılıyor... Ne kadar rahatlıkla buraya uyuşturucu sokuluyor... Sizi de şaşırtmıyor mu bu? Tutuklanan ve on günlük tutukluluktan sonra kefaletle serbest bırakılan BM’nin buradaki misyon şefi Kıvanç Aktuğ neler anlatıyor bize neler... Polis mültecileri kendisine teslim ediyormuş ve o da onları Lefkoşa surlariçindeki bir pansiyona yerleştiriyormuş... Ertesi günü ise o mülteciler o pansiyondan kayboluyormuş! Tam 530 kayıp varmış böyle... Ne iş bu iş... 530 kişi hep birden kaybolmamış herhalde... Zaten tümü birden o pansiyonlara sığmaz... Kayboldularsa, beşer beşer, yirmişer yirmişer, bilemedin kırkar kırkar kayboldular... E, kaybolmalar başlayınca önlem almak yok mu? Kıvanç Aktuğ’un bize söyleyemediği şeyler de olmalı... Açıklarsa yer yerinden oynar belki... Tehlikeye girer hayatı... 28 bin dolar ve küçük bir miktar da Euro bulunmuş evinde... İşbirliği yaptığı taksicinin hesabında ise topu topuna 100 bin dolar... Hepsi bu kadarsa, gerisi nerde? 2008 Mayıs ayında Rum tarafına geçen yasadışı mülteci sayısı 5844... AB Komisyonu’nun raporu bu... Rapora göre, bunların 5710’u yeşil hat üzerinden geçerek gitmiş güneye... Her mülteciden bunun karşılığı olarak 5 bin dolar alındığına göre, bu hesap 25 milyon doları bulur... Kimlerin cebine gitmiş bu nimet?
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Sık sık rastlarsınız haberlerde... Askeri yasak bölgeyi ihlal etti diye tutuklananlar var... Ne büyük bir başarı değil mi? Onlar tutuklanıyor... Ama kaçaklar tutuklanamıyor! 530 kişi sınırda kuş uçurtmayan askerin gözünden kaçabiliyor! Sivil İşler Başkanlığı denilen istihbarat, herhalde telefonlarımızı dinlemekten ve bizi izlemekten fırsat bulup onlara bakamıyor!
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Postby Tim Drayton » Thu Mar 05, 2009 12:11 pm

If you want Google translate's version of the Turkish article, here it is:

Human trafficking here in Northern Cyprus and the military authorities were quite fire, but to follow us step by step and look was very successful in psychological operations. Perfect set up a listening service, they ... We are listening to the phone. Signals to monitor very closely on Gecyarıları give us. 'Where you are, know what you're doing' quietly sending messages ... Self-addressed and do not give out phone numbers are the most advanced hours of the night we ... Profanity and threats existed previously in this phone ... Now feel they are in silence. During the last few months our newspapers and military authorities regarding the news about me as a colonel was among ... We had a place, and ask:-African newspaper of the Turkish Cypriot Peace Forces, is wanted by the Turkish army? He gave me money with this question of questions:-The army of what we want?
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What a pity that the Ergenekon in Turkey in Cyprus, that's going on are off the job ... So me and told ... But you can not dare to touch those who are still going on. Turkey bombs in the unknown perpetrators of the bomb, bomb here, right? Uğur Mumcu murder is being investigated on account of the murder of Kutlu Islander is why no mention? Soldiers in Turkey who walk with courage on the 'Party' newspaper pieces as needed, even then not Ergenekon puppy ... It's always associated with the Annan Plan and the like, in this period alone Ergenekon has emerged in Cyprus is an air es, and the Islander murder, as well as a look at many of the bombs miss the event ... Especially against our soldiers organized by the newspaper as though conscious of the operations are not mentioned at all. Here, the most violent explosions in our two bombs exploded but the newspaper ... Diary of a newspaper's printing press to pass it up twice to bomb superimposed Is it junk? Or say we're here as invaders of Turkish soldiers licit you bomb us?
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Look ... 40 thousand people in this country, the Turkish Army, Security Forces Command 3 thousand people and an army of police, the army had also, how much is done with human trafficking ... How to easily infiltrate the drug is ... Do you also surprised this? Arrested and released on bail after detention on the day of the UN mission chief in here tells us what what Kıvanç Aktug ... Be handed over to police themselves had been refugees and he placed them into a pension surlariçindeki Lefkoşa ... The next day he had disappeared from the refugees that hostels! Fully 530 had losses like this ... What this business ... 530 people probably have not lost all at once ... Already does not fit all ... one of the hostels Lost, five five, yirmişer yirmişer, I have never lost kırkar kırkar ... E, do not take measures to start to disappear? Tell us what's not Kıvanç Aktug should be ... On the spot where they play, maybe ... Danger enters the life of ... 28 thousand dollar house and a small amount found in the Euro ... Cooperation in the taxi driver's account cannon ball 100 thousand dollars to ... If that's all, where else? Greek Cypriot side in May 2008 the 5844th number of illegal refugees .. EU Commission's report that ... According to the report, they went through 5710'u to the south over the green line ... All this money from the refugees as it is received 5 thousand dollars, 25 million dollars will find this account ... Who's going to pocket this blessing?
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You will frequently come across in the news ... They violated the military restricted area offs have arrested ... What Is it not a great success? They will be arrested ... But the fugitive can not be arrested! 530 people escape from the eyes of the soldiers at the border can the bird fly free! Civil Affairs Presidency called intelligence, probably to follow us an opportunity to listen to our phone and not look at them!
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Postby RAFAELLA » Thu Mar 05, 2009 12:25 pm

I've always admired Mr Levent and his brave pen.

His articles have a unique way of exposing the truth through irony.
His articles is the mirror in which we see in what tragic and dangerous situation our occupied country is under.
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Postby CBBB » Thu Mar 05, 2009 12:27 pm

I think I will wait to read the it when it is printed by the Cyprus Mail in English!
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Postby Tim Drayton » Thu Mar 05, 2009 12:29 pm

CBBB wrote:I think I will wait to read the it when it is printed by the Cyprus Mail in English!


I have never seen any of Levent's articles in the Cyprus Mail, oddly enough.
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Postby DT. » Thu Mar 05, 2009 12:56 pm

Tim Drayton wrote:
CBBB wrote:I think I will wait to read the it when it is printed by the Cyprus Mail in English!


I have never seen any of Levent's articles in the Cyprus Mail, oddly enough.


Cyprus mail has a strict policy against pissing off any of its readers in the occupied territories. I wouldn't think Levents articles have any place there.

Perhaps a few Cyprus mail contributors on this forum may correct me if I'm wrong. :wink:
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Postby Tim Drayton » Thu Mar 05, 2009 2:03 pm

DT. wrote:
Tim Drayton wrote:
CBBB wrote:I think I will wait to read the it when it is printed by the Cyprus Mail in English!


I have never seen any of Levent's articles in the Cyprus Mail, oddly enough.


Cyprus mail has a strict policy against pissing off any of its readers in the occupied territories. I wouldn't think Levents articles have any place there.

Perhaps a few Cyprus mail contributors on this forum may correct me if I'm wrong. :wink:


I didn't know it had much of a circulation in the north. There again, this could be precisely why they have such a policy - not to piss off the few readers they actually have there!
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Postby insan » Thu Mar 05, 2009 5:01 pm

RAFAELLA wrote:I've always admired Mr Levent and his brave pen.

His articles have a unique way of exposing the truth through irony.
His articles is the mirror in which we see in what tragic and dangerous situation our occupied country is under.


He considers TPap as a racist Hellenist.

He describes EOKA as a fascist organization.

He describes some activities of the current RoC government as racist.
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