shahmaran wrote:Well why don't you just comment on those Oracle?
You never answer a question and only wiggle your way out.
I truly want to hear your opinions on the Eoka Terror, and not how it was
DT. wrote:mutual but the justification behind it?
Plus the fact that we also have land down there.
You are so blinded with racist greed I'm surprised you can actually see the monitor.
DT. wrote: Shah, when a tiny percentage of GC coupists tried to overthrow our govt, the vast majority of the GC's were fighting these coupists and did not accept the coup. What were the tc's doing to bring constitutional order back considering that CLerides and denktash were so close to agreement on the re-introduction of tc's into the govt?
Maybe they were a tiny percentage coupists but they were very well trained guerillas that took significant number of NG under their command, mercilessly killed many resistance fighters, destroyed president's palace. Moreover, the main reason Britain didn't bilaterally act together with Turkey to intervene was yet again those EOKA-B guerillas. 25.000 Brit citizens were residing in Cyprus during the coup. Britain couldn't dare to intervene just because not to risk the lives of 25.000 UK citizens. Remember the losses of Brits during EOKA struggle then u can guess the rest.. Even the reason Turkish army couldn't dare to launch a 3rd phase of intervention to ward-off all EOKA-B guerillas was again the difficulties of waging a guerilla warfare under the then circumstances. Why ur brave resistance fighters which u claim constituting 99% of GCs couldn't ward-off all those EOKA-B guerillas and their backers until 1976. Was the only way to get rid of them an amnesty?
TCs have already been discussing for a new constitutional order with Clerides, right before the coup. Under the then circumstances, TCs naturally neither were trusting right wing GCs nor the left wingers whom were Makarios supporters. It is a well known fact that Makarios backed by 2 faced GC left refusing political equality of TCs.
DT. wrote:Does a gc who fought against the coupists (which is about 99% of GC's) feel betrayed that his tc countrymen where letting in Turkey through the back door while we where getting rid of Sampson? The fact that TC's were rejoicing while the GC caravans where making their way south away from their homes is just one point that requires attention. Of all the atrocities that gangs of fascist GC's committed against TC's, how many times did you find the gc;'s partying in the streets rejoicing that the tc's were killed?
The ones who actively fought against coupists were a tiny armed leftist group. All right wingers welcomed coup as if finally their dream of Enosis would come true. Most probably that group of TCs rejoicing for something they felt happy. Who observed what all the TCs were doing during some GC caravans making their ways towards South? Only those fascist EOKA-B groups and their supporters might have rejoiced by massacreing TCs in 3 villages. What u r trying to put forward, I couldn't get well.
DT. wrote: There's a huge trust issue here one that the tc's that welcomed the troops in the north have a lot to answer for to the gC's and TC's who passed each other...one thrown out of the north, the other ordered to go north.
???? What kind of trust issue? Both the left winger GCs and right winger GCs were like minded that TCs should be treated as a minority not a politically equal state partner.
DT. wrote:Tell me...do the GC's throw a parade the day the killings were carried out against the TC's?
DT. wrote:Now tell me, do the TC's throw a parade and a party the day the GC's lost everything (some including their lives).
We don't parade and party because of the losses of GCs that was the inevitable consequence of the struggle between TCs-Turks/Greeks-GCs. We parade and party because we got rid of GC-Greek oppression; at least emotionally and physically.
DT. wrote:Next I'd like you to explain to me how the victimised Turkish side is also holding an entire city at ransom. Varosha could have been handed over so long ago to its inhabitants....doesn't really match the whole victim persona some are trying to portray here by asking for ransom in exchange for people's homes which have not been utilised by the victimized turkish army.
I don't have much knowledge about this issue.
DT. wrote:So many questions regarding halil's claims about the fault of the past 50 years being on the GC leadership and Turkey being the Virgin Mary in all this.
As I always emphasized. Fault, wrongs, corrects all depends on ur ideology and beliefs.
DT. wrote:Apologise for the bad grammar but I'm in a hurry.