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[Sotos]

Insan, was the invasion of Turks in 1571 the killing of 20.000 Cypriots and the occupation of Cyprus for 300 years justified?

Since when the Venetian land belonged to u? The ones warring against Ottomans were Venetians not serfs of Cyprus.

You excuse the oppression of the Cypriot people for 300 years and the killing of 20.000 Cypriots? Yes or no?

What excuse. This is a fact. There has always been rulers and their serfs on Cyprus for thousands of years. Ottoman Turks warred with Venetians and conquered it, freed the serfs of Cyprus and granted them lands.

You deny that you killed 20.000 Cypriots and oppressed Cypriots for 300 years?

If whom Ottomans killed were Cypriots, then there wasn't Venetian rule in Cyprus.

What you say is that you killed Venetians and then for 300 years you killed and oppressed Venetians ?

During the Greek War of Independence in 1821, the Ottoman authorities feared that Greek Cypriots would rebel again. Archbishop Kyprianos, a powerful leader who worked to improve the education of Greek Cypriot children, was accused of plotting against the government. Kyprianos, his bishops, and hundreds of priests and important laymen were arrested and summarily hanged or decapitated on July 9, 1821.

Kyprianos was also Venetian?

[Nikitas]

"There has always been rulers and their serfs on Cyprus for thousands of years. Ottoman Turks warred with Venetians and conquered it, freed the serfs of Cyprus and granted them lands."

You pompous git! What thousands of years! Are you including the Byzantine empire in these thousands of years?

Read your history and use a good book this time. The Ottomans did kill Cypriots, as they massacred peole in other areas they conquered.

The assumptions that the Venetians were worse than the Turks is a useful Turkish ploy to paint the Ottoman oppression in a better light. IT is total bullshit. Throughout the Turkish occupation Venice was the center of Greek letters and creativity. The main canal in Venice bears the name "Canal of the Greeks", and there stands the Greek Orthodox church of Saint Demetrius which kind of demolishes the view that the Venetians were hell bent on abolishing the Greek church. Venice is to this day the richest source of Greek manuscripts written during the Ottoman years, when no publishing in Greek was allowed by the Turks.

So lay off with this "we saved you from the Venetians" crap.

[Sotos]

They killed 1000s of Cypriots and oppressed us in the worst way for 300 years and they don't recognize this! Then they complain that a couple of 100 of their own got killed When you don't recognize the suffering and the pain you caused to others it is easy to pretend to be the victim. But when the truth is shown everybody can see who attacked whom and who caused the most harm.

[insan]

"There has always been rulers and their serfs on Cyprus for thousands of years. Ottoman Turks warred with Venetians and conquered it, freed the serfs of Cyprus and granted them lands."

You pompous git! What thousands of years! Are you including the Byzantine empire in these thousands of years?

Read your history and use a good book this time. The Ottomans did kill Cypriots, as they massacred peole in other areas they conquered.

The assumptions that the Venetians were worse than the Turks is a useful Turkish ploy to paint the Ottoman oppression in a better light. IT is total bullshit. Throughout the Turkish occupation Venice was the center of Greek letters and creativity. The main canal in Venice bears the name "Canal of the Greeks", and there stands the Greek Orthodox church of Saint Demetrius which kind of demolishes the view that the Venetians were hell bent on abolishing the Greek church. Venice is to this day the richest source of Greek manuscripts written during the Ottoman years, when no publishing in Greek was allowed by the Turks.

So lay off with this "we saved you from the Venetians" crap.

Some credible sources regarding Cyprus under Venetian rule. U like making galiamtias at every occassion.

[Nikitas]

How bad were those Venetians! Just think that in Crete, also under Venetian rule, a nobleman wrote the GREEK poem Erotocritos. His name was Vincenzo Cornaro, and when he went to Venice to present his manuscript to the library his brother had to go with him to act as interpreter because Vincenzo did NOT SPEAK ITALIAN! That is how bad the Venetians were that they often became totally immersed in the local culture at the expense of their own.