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Postby Piratis » Sun Mar 08, 2009 4:13 pm

if you don't have the past that you need, you can always invent it


This is what Bananiot wants to create. The Turks have been oppressing us since the day they set their foot on our island in 1571 all the way until today in 2009.

The only time of peace between us was the 80 years from 1878 when they stopped ruling Cyprus and oppressing us until 1958 when they attacked us again.

Yet Bananiots for the sake of "reconciliation" they want to create some fake history.

The question is: Should we accept the real history, or invent new one for the sake of reconciliation?
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Postby insan » Sun Mar 08, 2009 4:16 pm

Piratis wrote:
if you don't have the past that you need, you can always invent it


This is what Bananiot wants to create. The Turks have been oppressing us since the day they set their foot on our island in 1571 all the way until today in 2009.

The only time of peace between us was the 80 years from 1878 when they stopped ruling Cyprus and oppressing us until 1958 when they attacked us again.

Yet Bananiots for the sake of "reconciliation" they want to create some fake history.

The question is: Should we accept the real history, or invent new one for the sake of reconciliation?


That is what Grivas, Makarios and TPapa had invented long time ago and Chris wishes to alter it to a degree. Let's see if he would be succesful.
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Postby Piratis » Sun Mar 08, 2009 4:31 pm

What was invented by Grivas, Makarios and "TPapa"? The oppression of the Cypriot people by the Turks between 1571 and 1878. The attack of the Turks 80 years later in 1958? Or the Turkish invasion and occupation of Cyprus that continues until today?
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Postby insan » Sun Mar 08, 2009 5:05 pm

Piratis wrote:What was invented by Grivas, Makarios and "TPapa"? The oppression of the Cypriot people by the Turks between 1571 and 1878. The attack of the Turks 80 years later in 1958? Or the Turkish invasion and occupation of Cyprus that continues until today?


What invented by Grivas, Makarios and TPapa is ur current, "perfect" history text-books that justifies everything Hellenes had done and puts all the blame on others; as a hate pumping, spreading machine.
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Postby Sotos » Sun Mar 08, 2009 7:57 pm

Insan, was the invasion of Turks in 1571 the killing of 20.000 Cypriots and the occupation of Cyprus for 300 years justified?
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Postby insan » Sun Mar 08, 2009 8:04 pm

Sotos wrote:Insan, was the invasion of Turks in 1571 the killing of 20.000 Cypriots and the occupation of Cyprus for 300 years justified?


Since when the Venetian land belonged to u? The ones warring against Ottomans were Venetians not serfs of Cyprus.
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Postby Sotos » Sun Mar 08, 2009 8:06 pm

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Sotos wrote:Insan, was the invasion of Turks in 1571 the killing of 20.000 Cypriots and the occupation of Cyprus for 300 years justified?


Since when the Venetian land belonged to u? The ones warring against Ottomans were Venetians not serfs of Cyprus.


You excuse the oppression of the Cypriot people for 300 years and the killing of 20.000 Cypriots? Yes or no?
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Postby insan » Sun Mar 08, 2009 8:15 pm

Sotos wrote:
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Sotos wrote:Insan, was the invasion of Turks in 1571 the killing of 20.000 Cypriots and the occupation of Cyprus for 300 years justified?


Since when the Venetian land belonged to u? The ones warring against Ottomans were Venetians not serfs of Cyprus.


You excuse the oppression of the Cypriot people for 300 years and the killing of 20.000 Cypriots? Yes or no?


What excuse. This is a fact. There has always been rulers and their serfs on Cyprus for thousands of years. Ottoman Turks warred with Venetians and conquered it, freed the serfs of Cyprus and granted them lands.
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Postby Sotos » Sun Mar 08, 2009 8:16 pm

insan wrote:
Sotos wrote:
insan wrote:
Sotos wrote:Insan, was the invasion of Turks in 1571 the killing of 20.000 Cypriots and the occupation of Cyprus for 300 years justified?


Since when the Venetian land belonged to u? The ones warring against Ottomans were Venetians not serfs of Cyprus.


You excuse the oppression of the Cypriot people for 300 years and the killing of 20.000 Cypriots? Yes or no?


What excuse. This is a fact. There has always been rulers and their serfs on Cyprus for thousands of years. Ottoman Turks warred with Venetians and conquered it, freed the serfs of Cyprus and granted them lands.


You deny that you killed 20.000 Cypriots and oppressed Cypriots for 300 years?
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Postby insan » Sun Mar 08, 2009 8:23 pm

Sotos wrote:
insan wrote:
Sotos wrote:
insan wrote:
Sotos wrote:Insan, was the invasion of Turks in 1571 the killing of 20.000 Cypriots and the occupation of Cyprus for 300 years justified?


Since when the Venetian land belonged to u? The ones warring against Ottomans were Venetians not serfs of Cyprus.


You excuse the oppression of the Cypriot people for 300 years and the killing of 20.000 Cypriots? Yes or no?


What excuse. This is a fact. There has always been rulers and their serfs on Cyprus for thousands of years. Ottoman Turks warred with Venetians and conquered it, freed the serfs of Cyprus and granted them lands.


You deny that you killed 20.000 Cypriots and oppressed Cypriots for 300 years?


If whom Ottomans killed were Cypriots, then there wasn't Venetian rule in Cyprus. :lol:
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