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[Oracle]

Cyprus was never part of the "Greek Nation", no more or less than it is part of the éTurkish Nation"

What Turkish Nation? A bunch of nomadic tribesmen trying to get used to staying put and living in mud huts instead of tents?... just because Ataturk said they had to become one nation? And any getting itchy feet get sent over to Cyprus to carry on their nomadic expansionist invasions!

1500s was not nomadic tribes man time, it was Empire time.

Even IF we were tribes man we would still have a lot more than you had going on here.

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Turks a few hundred years ago ...



Greeks a few thousand years ago ...

[Oracle]

Cyprus was never part of the "Greek Nation", no more or less than it is part of the éTurkish Nation"

What Turkish Nation? A bunch of nomadic tribesmen trying to get used to staying put and living in mud huts instead of tents?... just because Ataturk said they had to become one nation? And any getting itchy feet get sent over to Cyprus to carry on their nomadic expansionist invasions!

And you are supposed to be educated and intelligent? You are supposed to be able to judge right from wrong? You believe in human rights???

God help us.

What Human Rights?

The Turks violate them ....

[Oracle]

Twenty three historians, under the supervision of Anne Morelli, make mincemeat of 23 myths of Belgian history. All myths that were created to lend support to the meaning of the Belgian Nation are destroyed, one by one.

Can anyone imagine this happening in our part of the world?

Yeah ... is it a myth they grow Brussel Sprouts there?

Perhaps we had better watch out for the Cyprus Potato Myth

[Piratis]

Cyprus was never part of the "Greek Nation", no more or less than it is part of the éTurkish Nation"

In what way is Cyprus different than Rhodes, Crete or any other Greek island, other than the fact that our revolt for freedom and self-determination was oppressed violently by the combined attacks of the British and Turks?

The first modern Greek Republic was created in 1821. Are you going to tell me that Athens became Greek in 1821 and that it was not Greek before that? Most of the rest Greek territories and islands joined the Greek Republic after that. Rhodes united with Greece in 1947.

So I ask you again: What is the difference between Cyprus and any other Greek island except from the fact that foreign troops denied to Cyprus its freedom and self-termination?

Well mainly the fact that we live here too and we were equal partners.

If you claim that you have the right to dominate then so do we.

What is the problem?

Many other Greek islands have Turkish minorities, as well as parts of the Greek mainland. (and the same is true with many other former Ottoman colonies - Bulgaria has 12% Turks). So what you say is no difference between Cyprus and other Greek islands. You simply can't find any difference, because there isn't any.

Actually when it comes to the Turks/Ottomans, Cyprus was one of the last Greek territories to fall under the Ottoman rule. The Ottomans captured Athens about a century before they captured Cyprus.

What is the problem is discussed in the rest 20.000 topics of this forum. Here I am not talking about the problem, but about the fact that Cyprus is an island which belongs to the Greek Nation and which the British and Turkish troops did not allow to unite with the rest of Greece.

[shahmaran]

Cyprus was never part of the "Greek Nation", no more or less than it is part of the éTurkish Nation"

What Turkish Nation? A bunch of nomadic tribesmen trying to get used to staying put and living in mud huts instead of tents?... just because Ataturk said they had to become one nation? And any getting itchy feet get sent over to Cyprus to carry on their nomadic expansionist invasions!

1500s was not nomadic tribes man time, it was Empire time.

Even IF we were tribes man we would still have a lot more than you had going on here.

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Turks a few hundred years ago ...



Greeks a few thousand years ago ...

Yeah thats it, thats the difference.

Oracle I knew you were racist but never thought you were an idiot.

[shahmaran]

Cyprus was never part of the "Greek Nation", no more or less than it is part of the éTurkish Nation"

In what way is Cyprus different than Rhodes, Crete or any other Greek island, other than the fact that our revolt for freedom and self-determination was oppressed violently by the combined attacks of the British and Turks?

The first modern Greek Republic was created in 1821. Are you going to tell me that Athens became Greek in 1821 and that it was not Greek before that? Most of the rest Greek territories and islands joined the Greek Republic after that. Rhodes united with Greece in 1947.

So I ask you again: What is the difference between Cyprus and any other Greek island except from the fact that foreign troops denied to Cyprus its freedom and self-termination?

Well mainly the fact that we live here too and we were equal partners.

If you claim that you have the right to dominate then so do we.

What is the problem?

Many other Greek islands have Turkish minorities, as well as parts of the Greek mainland. (and the same is true with many other former Ottoman colonies - Bulgaria has 12% Turks). So what you say is no difference between Cyprus and other Greek islands. You simply can't find any difference, because there isn't any.

Actually when it comes to the Turks/Ottomans, Cyprus was one of the last Greek territories to fall under the Ottoman rule. The Ottomans captured Athens about a century before they captured Cyprus.

What is the problem is discussed in the rest 20.000 topics of this forum. Here I am not talking about the problem, but about the fact that Cyprus is an island which belongs to the Greek Nation and which the British and Turkish troops did not allow to unite with the rest of Greece.

Thats because it doesnt belong to the Greek nation, never did and still doesnt!

[Oracle]

Cyprus was never part of the "Greek Nation", no more or less than it is part of the éTurkish Nation"

In what way is Cyprus different than Rhodes, Crete or any other Greek island, other than the fact that our revolt for freedom and self-determination was oppressed violently by the combined attacks of the British and Turks?

The first modern Greek Republic was created in 1821. Are you going to tell me that Athens became Greek in 1821 and that it was not Greek before that? Most of the rest Greek territories and islands joined the Greek Republic after that. Rhodes united with Greece in 1947.

So I ask you again: What is the difference between Cyprus and any other Greek island except from the fact that foreign troops denied to Cyprus its freedom and self-termination?

Well mainly the fact that we live here too and we were equal partners.

If you claim that you have the right to dominate then so do we.

What is the problem?

Many other Greek islands have Turkish minorities, as well as parts of the Greek mainland. (and the same is true with many other former Ottoman colonies - Bulgaria has 12% Turks). So what you say is no difference between Cyprus and other Greek islands. You simply can't find any difference, because there isn't any.

Actually when it comes to the Turks/Ottomans, Cyprus was one of the last Greek territories to fall under the Ottoman rule. The Ottomans captured Athens about a century before they captured Cyprus.

What is the problem is discussed in the rest 20.000 topics of this forum. Here I am not talking about the problem, but about the fact that Cyprus is an island which belongs to the Greek Nation and which the British and Turkish troops did not allow to unite with the rest of Greece.

Thats because it doesnt belong to the Greek nation, never did and still doesnt!

Greek ruins in Greece ...



Greek ruins in Cyprus ...

[shahmaran]

What is your point Oracle?

Just because we dont have "ruins" we should leave Cyprus?

Your arguments become cheaper by day, you should find another JOB!

[insan]

Cyprus was never part of the "Greek Nation", no more or less than it is part of the éTurkish Nation"

What Turkish Nation? A bunch of nomadic tribesmen trying to get used to staying put and living in mud huts instead of tents?... just because Ataturk said they had to become one nation? And any getting itchy feet get sent over to Cyprus to carry on their nomadic expansionist invasions!

1500s was not nomadic tribes man time, it was Empire time.

Even IF we were tribes man we would still have a lot more than you had going on here.

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Turks a few hundred years ago ...



Greeks a few thousand years ago ...

Yeah thats it, thats the difference.

Oracle I knew you were racist but never thought you were an idiot.

Turkish architecture

In their homeland in Central Asia, Turks lived in dome-like tents appropriate to their natural surroundings, and they were nomads. These tents later influenced Turkish architecture and ornamental arts.

http://factsaboutturkey.com/showpage.php?cid=356

Though u have already known that; I know that u need a lil self-satisfaction of belittleing Turks before u sleep. It's something ur daily goofball.

[Nikitas]

Did America ever belong to the Indian Nation?

Piratis is using the word Nation in that sense, not in the sense of a formally set up entity. And from that point of view Cyprus is indeed part of the Greek Nation. Every corner of the island is stamped with Greek presence from throughout history. The Greek Orthodox Church in Cyprus has a longer history as an instution that the Ottoman Empire and Turkey combined. The Ottomans created very little in Cyprus, perhaps because they did not feel it was really theirs, or perhaps because they did not give a shit for the island. Mind you, they built very little in Greece, so maybe that lack of creativity was an Ottoman trait.

For all the talk of realism etc that comes from the Turkish and TC side, there is very little realism in accepting the history and culture of Cyprus.