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[insan]

Deniz, is the song u refered Zehretme hayatı by Zeki Müren?

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[denizaksulu]

Deniz, is the song u refered Zehretme hayatı by Zeki Müren?

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Ofcourse. None other.

[wallace]

Sooner or Later Good will win over Evel every time.

Can we assume that you support the PKK?

I support all organisations that fight for self determination, except those who fight for enosis as well as those who pretent to fight for self determination but actually are fighting for enosis - Piratis, GR, Oracle and Bafitis etc.

I have no problem with that. A sticky prob on this forum though; esp with regards to the Cyprus Problem. All the people of Cyprus have the same right you mentioned above. Perhaps , what you are fighting against is the venom spouted by the GC partitionists.

Deniz, there is a world of difference between self determination and imposing ones will on others. If they chose joining greece, they can take their part of the island and do as they wish, but if they try to force the TCs to join them, then its no longer self determination.
Some forum members As well as MrX are very clever at disguising their real intentions. Talat is the best to sort them out.
We need a several stage peace process. Single stage will be disaster.

Well, lets hope that Enosis will never be an option for the GC's. It is time to see their sincerity.

What if Talat loses in the elections though?

No need to worry, These elections will not alter anything with the negotiations, if they are not sorted by the end of this year then they will not be sorted which is why Talat is not standing for the next Presedential ellection in 2010. It is the best approach to snooker MrX to take the negotiation more seriously than he has been doing so far.

So the new comer will be more steadfast? (who ever he may be). No wonder I hate politics. You make it sound like Mr T is giving up the ghost. If the policies will not change, how come 'the winner' will be his opposition? Please dont answer as it will be beyong me to understand this.

God help us. (I dont really believe in that either)

Deniz come on. It does not matter who is in goverment as far as negotiations are concerened. The President of TRNC namely Talat will continue with the negotiations. If the agreement is reached, it will go to the vote and Eroglu may or may not oppose it. People will decide.

That simple? What was I worried about? So its Partition. Ce la' vie.

Yep. People must be allowed to have a fair and free election. not like the last one in the south.
I am off now.

When will yuo people understand that Talat or anyone else in that matter are puppets. Turkey calls the shots. Turkey decides for your people

What was it that touched the raw nerve, the comment about elections in the south,
And they claim to be democratic.

Nothing touches the raw nerve....I'm just wondering why some people on this forum do not see the realities Turkey=fascist state calls the shots for you. TC's have nothing to say regarding any solution to the Cyprob. Just learn to life with these facts. Just continue searching for music. That's the only right Turkey gives you.

[YFred]

Sooner or Later Good will win over Evel every time.

Can we assume that you support the PKK?

I support all organisations that fight for self determination, except those who fight for enosis as well as those who pretent to fight for self determination but actually are fighting for enosis - Piratis, GR, Oracle and Bafitis etc.

I have no problem with that. A sticky prob on this forum though; esp with regards to the Cyprus Problem. All the people of Cyprus have the same right you mentioned above. Perhaps , what you are fighting against is the venom spouted by the GC partitionists.

Deniz, there is a world of difference between self determination and imposing ones will on others. If they chose joining greece, they can take their part of the island and do as they wish, but if they try to force the TCs to join them, then its no longer self determination.
Some forum members As well as MrX are very clever at disguising their real intentions. Talat is the best to sort them out.
We need a several stage peace process. Single stage will be disaster.

Well, lets hope that Enosis will never be an option for the GC's. It is time to see their sincerity.

What if Talat loses in the elections though?

No need to worry, These elections will not alter anything with the negotiations, if they are not sorted by the end of this year then they will not be sorted which is why Talat is not standing for the next Presedential ellection in 2010. It is the best approach to snooker MrX to take the negotiation more seriously than he has been doing so far.

So the new comer will be more steadfast? (who ever he may be). No wonder I hate politics. You make it sound like Mr T is giving up the ghost. If the policies will not change, how come 'the winner' will be his opposition? Please dont answer as it will be beyong me to understand this.

God help us. (I dont really believe in that either)

Deniz come on. It does not matter who is in goverment as far as negotiations are concerened. The President of TRNC namely Talat will continue with the negotiations. If the agreement is reached, it will go to the vote and Eroglu may or may not oppose it. People will decide.

That simple? What was I worried about? So its Partition. Ce la' vie.

Yep. People must be allowed to have a fair and free election. not like the last one in the south.
I am off now.

When will yuo people understand that Talat or anyone else in that matter are puppets. Turkey calls the shots. Turkey decides for your people

What was it that touched the raw nerve, the comment about elections in the south,
And they claim to be democratic.

Nothing touches the raw nerve....I'm just wondering why some people on this forum do not see the realities Turkey=fascist state calls the shots for you. TC's have nothing to say regarding any solution to the Cyprob. Just learn to life with these facts. Just continue searching for music. That's the only right Turkey gives you.

Let me correct you if I may Mr wallace sir.
You will find that a fair amount of this music is banned in Turkey and the chances are the TC forumers may never have heard these songs.
Go forth and multiply with your superiority complex. I am sure you will find a way. You are greek aren't you old boy.

[YFred]

Edip'in da en çok Boşu Boşuna'ynan, Eşkiya Dünyaya Hükümdar Olmaz şarkılarını severim.

I never heard Boşu Boşuna. Yep usual Edip standard. He is just Mega.
Not just a singer but truly a Huge human.
I heard his argument with the leader of Turkeshes party on You tube. How many musucians can speak like him?
What a man.

[insan]

Edip'in da en çok Boşu Boşuna'ynan, Eşkiya Dünyaya Hükümdar Olmaz şarkılarını severim.

I never heard Boşu Boşuna. Yep usual Edip standard. He is just Mega.
Not just a singer but truly a Huge human.
I heard his argument with the leader of Turkeshes party on You tube. How many musucians can speak like him?
What a man.

Bro edip is one of the old guns of Turkish left.

[YFred]

Edip'in da en çok Boşu Boşuna'ynan, Eşkiya Dünyaya Hükümdar Olmaz şarkılarını severim.

I never heard Boşu Boşuna. Yep usual Edip standard. He is just Mega.
Not just a singer but truly a Huge human.
I heard his argument with the leader of Turkeshes party on You tube. How many musucians can speak like him?
What a man.

Bro edip is one of the old guns of Turkish left.

I know, I thought I knew allhis songs, I have all his albums, but I missed that one. Perhaps he has an album I don't have. Which one is this song from.
May be I am missing an album?
Your knowledge would be appreciated.

[wallace]

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Let me correct you if I may Mr wallace sir.
You will find that a fair amount of this music is banned in Turkey and the chances are the TC forumers may never have heard these songs.
Go forth and multiply with your superiority complex. I am sure you will find a way. You are greek aren't you old boy.[/quote]

Let me correct you Mr Y-Fred sir.

You will find that a fair amount of this music is not understood by various forumers so they do not know if it's banned in Turkey....do they now? And since when does somebody have an superiority complex by writing down the facts of a puppet state in occupied Cyprus? And even if I was Greek...or Turkish......or TC.....what does my ethnic background have to do with the realities on the island of Cyprus?

[YFred]

Let me correct you if I may Mr wallace sir.
You will find that a fair amount of this music is banned in Turkey and the chances are the TC forumers may never have heard these songs.
Go forth and multiply with your superiority complex. I am sure you will find a way. You are greek aren't you old boy.[/quote]

Let me correct you Mr Y-Fred sir.

You will find that a fair amount of this music is not understood by various forumers so they do not know if it's banned in Turkey....do they now? And since when does somebody have an superiority complex by writing down the facts of a puppet state in occupied Cyprus? And even if I was Greek...or Turkish......or TC.....what does my ethnic background have to do with the realities on the island of Cyprus? [/quote]

You are obviously not fully understanding the changing realities on the ground in Northern Cyprus, or the power of the song in that. Find out how many TC stood outside Denkatas's apartment and sung "Bu Memleke Bizim", which led to the opening of the crossings, before you make such ignorant Generalisations.

Back to my music, If I may sir Master .

[wallace]

Let me correct you if I may Mr wallace sir.
You will find that a fair amount of this music is banned in Turkey and the chances are the TC forumers may never have heard these songs.
Go forth and multiply with your superiority complex. I am sure you will find a way. You are greek aren't you old boy.

Let me correct you Mr Y-Fred sir.

You will find that a fair amount of this music is not understood by various forumers so they do not know if it's banned in Turkey....do they now? And since when does somebody have an superiority complex by writing down the facts of a puppet state in occupied Cyprus? And even if I was Greek...or Turkish......or TC.....what does my ethnic background have to do with the realities on the island of Cyprus? [/quote]

You are obviously not fully understanding the changing realities on the ground in Northern Cyprus, or the power of the song in that. Find out how many TC stood outside Denkatas's apartment and sung "Bu Memleke Bizim", which led to the opening of the crossings, before you make such ignorant Generalisations.

Back to my music, If I may sir Master .[/quote]

Well....I've been reading various things regarding the changing realities in the occupied part of Cyprus. Including the polls. Doesn't look to good for the island of Cyprus.....does it? Back to the music. Sounds interesting this "Bu Memleke Bizim"...but what does it mean. Could you please translate Mr. Yfred sir for the forumers that do not understand Turkish.