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[YFred]

It was meant to be a joke, because the lurucadis are rumoured to be linobambaki.
No proof I am afraid.
I was born muslim. However I am part of the 95% of TCs who are not religious.

[Get Real!]

It was meant to be a joke, because the lurucadis are rumoured to be linobambaki. No proof I am afraid.

There's plenty of proof out there.... we must've done an article or two on that in the past.

[RichardB]

Louroujina [Akıncılar, Λουρουτζίνα]

According to the book Historic Cyprus by Rupert Gunnis (Kemal Rustem & Bro. Edition), the village was the centre of the Linobambaki. In the same book a discription of the Linobambaki is as follows:"...Linobambaki, that is, linen and cotton, a figurative expression which means a combination of Christian and Moslem. While to outward appearance they are Turks, and are so recognized by the local aıuthorities, in reality they are, at the time of the Turkish conquest, were forced to declare themselves Moslems or Orthodox Christians and they embraced Islam in order to pay no tax for 3 years after the Ottoman conquest and saving their property rights. However there are lots of other Catholics who have converted to Orthodox Christianity as well.

Many, if not all of them, had been adherents of the Latin Church, though it is still frequently a matter of dispute between the Greek bishops and the Latin priests as to which Church they rightfully belong to, each Church being desirous of claiming them as its adherents. The marriage and baptismal ceremonies of the Linobambaki are performed in secret by a priest of their choice. On the birth of a male child the rite of circumcision is evaded by means of a present of money to the Hodja. They adopt such names for their sons as are common to both Christian and Moslem, such as Ibrahim (Abraham), Moussa(Moses), Yusuf (Joseph), etc. which are being used in these lands for hundreds of years.

just a little info for those who dont know about this

(like myself until 2 minutes ago )

http://wikimapia.org/1713819/Louroujina ... E%BD%CE%B1

[YFred]

Louroujina [Akıncılar, Λουρουτζίνα]

According to the book Historic Cyprus by Rupert Gunnis (Kemal Rustem & Bro. Edition), the village was the centre of the Linobambaki. In the same book a discription of the Linobambaki is as follows:"...Linobambaki, that is, linen and cotton, a figurative expression which means a combination of Christian and Moslem. While to outward appearance they are Turks, and are so recognized by the local aıuthorities, in reality they are, at the time of the Turkish conquest, were forced to declare themselves Moslems or Orthodox Christians and they embraced Islam in order to pay no tax for 3 years after the Ottoman conquest and saving their property rights. However there are lots of other Catholics who have converted to Orthodox Christianity as well.

Many, if not all of them, had been adherents of the Latin Church, though it is still frequently a matter of dispute between the Greek bishops and the Latin priests as to which Church they rightfully belong to, each Church being desirous of claiming them as its adherents. The marriage and baptismal ceremonies of the Linobambaki are performed in secret by a priest of their choice. On the birth of a male child the rite of circumcision is evaded by means of a present of money to the Hodja. They adopt such names for their sons as are common to both Christian and Moslem, such as Ibrahim (Abraham), Moussa(Moses), Yusuf (Joseph), etc. which are being used in these lands for hundreds of years.

just a little info for those who dont know about this

(like myself until 2 minutes ago )

http://wikimapia.org/1713819/Louroujina ... E%BD%CE%B1

It is all rumoured. There is no evidence.
Prior to 1958, In Lurucina, there were approximately 10 Greek families that left in 1958.
The mystery was why did we have 3 churches in Lurucina. Now this is of course circumstantial evidence. But if it proves that my ancestors have been in Cyprus longer than Gelding Racehorse's ancestors. I'll take it.
Thank you R.
I am afraid that the article is full of inaccuracies, because all Lurucadis are circumcised. Also, its quite good business to get it done, as you can collect a considerable sum of money as a reward.

[YFred]

It was meant to be a joke, because the lurucadis are rumoured to be linobambaki. No proof I am afraid.

There's plenty of proof out there.... we must've done an article or two on that in the past.

If you think I will take your articles as proof?
Your testicles may be Mr Gelding man.

[bill cobbett]

Ah, a gobbledygook thread. Always good to have a chance to post some more nonsense....

On the Origin of Cultural Selection, or the Preservation of Favoured Societal Memes in the Struggle for Life of Some of the Cy northern Community and their Sympathisers.

All the below are views held by some individuals which attain reality and are manifest at the community level to become the favoured generally held traits and which continue from one generation to the next, the dominant memes.....

Some favoured views might include...

The view that as the northern community enjoyed a totally dominant situation in the First Ottoman Period in the time between 1571 and GB Colonisation, and a favoured role during the GB Colonial Age that this disproportionate favouritism should continue in to the post 1960 Age of The Republic by way of the 50/50 nonsense.

The view that the close association between this community and the motherland is and always will be exceptionally important and is to override any loyalty to a new unitary Republic.

The view that it is perfectly ok to expropriate other people's land and to wish to establish a separate state on it.

The view that as they "won" the 74 war, they are entitled to enjoy the spoils of war and to dictate "negotiations" with the ever present threat of the motherland's army of occupation.

..and others.

Part of the mechanism by which this works may be the rewarding of those who hold these views with the better lands, the better houses, favoured jobs and sinecures. So hold these views and you and your offspring will prosper and multiply.

[insan]

Ah, a gobbledygook thread. Always good to have a chance to post some more nonsense....

On the Origin of Cultural Selection, or the Preservation of Favoured Societal Memes in the Struggle for Life of Some of the Cy northern Community and their Sympathisers.

All the below are views held by some individuals which attain reality and are manifest at the community level to become the favoured generally held traits and which continue from one generation to the next, the dominant memes.....

Some favoured views might include...

The view that as the northern community enjoyed a totally dominant situation in the First Ottoman Period in the time between 1571 and GB Colonisation, and a favoured role during the GB Colonial Age that this disproportionate favouritism should continue in to the post 1960 Age of The Republic by way of the 50/50 nonsense.

The view that the close association between this community and the motherland is and always will be exceptionally important and is to override any loyalty to a new unitary Republic.

The view that it is perfectly ok to expropriate other people's land and to wish to establish a separate state on it.

The view that as they "won" the 74 war, they are entitled to enjoy the spoils of war and to dictate "negotiations" with the ever present threat of the motherland's army of occupation.

..and others.

Part of the mechanism by which this works may be the rewarding of those who hold these views with the better lands, the better houses, favoured jobs and sinecures. So hold these views and you and your offspring will prosper and multiply.

A superficial exagerration and distortion of the facts. This is not the essential of the conflict.

The fact is that TC community on Cyprus has never been in a minority status and never wanted to be in minority status. GC ruling class with help of Greece exerted to make TC community a minority in Cyprus caused too much bloodshed and defacto partition of the island. If u keep insisting on making TC commnity a minority in Cyprus; be sure of that defacto partition will become a dejure partition in a few years time.

Keep dreaming that EU or Greece with his friends would force TCs and Turkey either by political pressure or militari power to have us obeyed the minority status for TC community.

[YFred]

Bill C you are not taking this very seriously and I am very disappointed at you behaviour.
Move on dear fellow.

[bill cobbett]

Bill C you are not taking this very seriously and I am very disappointed at you behaviour.
Move on dear fellow.

Perhaps I am being serious.

[YFred]

Bill C you are not taking this very seriously and I am very disappointed at you behaviour.
Move on dear fellow.

Perhaps I am being serious.

Perhaps then you should concentrate on the Selfishness of some of the forumers rather than going back to 1570 or 1960.

Behaviour of TCs have always been dictated by survival, whereas the average GC its all mine, go back to where you came from.
The real question behind it is simple. Are we born with it or do we acquire it along the way?