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Postby Get Real! » Mon Mar 02, 2009 8:23 pm

shahmaran wrote:Turks have been on this island for 500 years and have ruled almost all of it.

You on the other hand have not ruled a fifth of the time EVER, so what is your point?

We’ve had our go at 400 years of serfdom so are you now ready for YOURS? Image
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Postby insan » Mon Mar 02, 2009 8:31 pm

Get Real! wrote:
shahmaran wrote:Turks have been on this island for 500 years and have ruled almost all of it.

You on the other hand have not ruled a fifth of the time EVER, so what is your point?

We’ve had our go at 400 years of serfdom so are you now ready for YOURS? Image


From your credible sources. :lol: Before the Ottomans, u didn't even own just an inch of land on Cyprus. :lol:


The former foreign elite was destroyed--its members killed, carried away as captives, or exiled. The Orthodox Christians, i.e., the Greek Cypriots who survived, had new foreign overlords. Some early decisions of these new rulers were welcome innovations. The feudal system was abolished, and the freed serfs were enabled to acquire land and work their own farms. Although the small landholdings of the peasants were heavily taxed, the ending of serfdom changed the lives of the island's ordinary people. Another action of far-reaching importance was the granting of land to Turkish soldiers and peasants who became the nucleus of the island's Turkish community.

Although their homeland had been dominated by foreigners for many centuries, it was only after the imposition of Ottoman rule that Orthodox Christians began to develop a really strong sense of cohesiveness. This change was prompted by the Ottoman practice of ruling the empire through millets, or religious communities. Rather than suppressing the empire's many religious communities, the Turks allowed them a degree of automony as long as they complied with the demands of the sultan. The vast size and the ethnic variety of the empire made such a policy imperative. The system of governing through millets reestablished the authority of the Church of Cyprus and made its head the Greek Cypriot leader, or ethnarch. It became the responsibility of the ethnarch to administer the territories where his flock lived and to collect taxes. The religious convictions and functions of the ethnarch were of no concern to the empire as long as its needs were met.

In 1575 the Turks granted permission for the return of the archbishop and the three bishops of the Church of Cyprus to their respective sees. They also abolished the feudal system for they saw it as an extraneous power structure, unnecessary and dangerous. The autocephalous Church of Cyprus could function in its place for the political and fiscal administration of the island's Christian inhabitants. Its structured hierarchy put even remote villages within easy reach of the central authority. Both parties benefited. Greek Cypriots gained a measure of autonomy, and the empire received revenues without the bother of administration.
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Postby Get Real! » Mon Mar 02, 2009 8:33 pm

insan wrote:
Get Real! wrote:
shahmaran wrote:Turks have been on this island for 500 years and have ruled almost all of it.

You on the other hand have not ruled a fifth of the time EVER, so what is your point?

We’ve had our go at 400 years of serfdom so are you now ready for YOURS? Image


From your credible sources. :lol: Before the Ottomans, u didn't even own just an inch of land on Cyprus. :lol:


The former foreign elite was destroyed--its members killed, carried away as captives, or exiled. The Orthodox Christians, i.e., the Greek Cypriots who survived, had new foreign overlords. Some early decisions of these new rulers were welcome innovations. The feudal system was abolished, and the freed serfs were enabled to acquire land and work their own farms. Although the small landholdings of the peasants were heavily taxed, the ending of serfdom changed the lives of the island's ordinary people. Another action of far-reaching importance was the granting of land to Turkish soldiers and peasants who became the nucleus of the island's Turkish community.

Although their homeland had been dominated by foreigners for many centuries, it was only after the imposition of Ottoman rule that Orthodox Christians began to develop a really strong sense of cohesiveness. This change was prompted by the Ottoman practice of ruling the empire through millets, or religious communities. Rather than suppressing the empire's many religious communities, the Turks allowed them a degree of automony as long as they complied with the demands of the sultan. The vast size and the ethnic variety of the empire made such a policy imperative. The system of governing through millets reestablished the authority of the Church of Cyprus and made its head the Greek Cypriot leader, or ethnarch. It became the responsibility of the ethnarch to administer the territories where his flock lived and to collect taxes. The religious convictions and functions of the ethnarch were of no concern to the empire as long as its needs were met.

In 1575 the Turks granted permission for the return of the archbishop and the three bishops of the Church of Cyprus to their respective sees. They also abolished the feudal system for they saw it as an extraneous power structure, unnecessary and dangerous. The autocephalous Church of Cyprus could function in its place for the political and fiscal administration of the island's Christian inhabitants. Its structured hierarchy put even remote villages within easy reach of the central authority. Both parties benefited. Greek Cypriots gained a measure of autonomy, and the empire received revenues without the bother of administration.

Ok, we promise that by 2410 you’ll be able to own land, have a mosque, and a few goats but don’t push it… :lol:
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Postby insan » Mon Mar 02, 2009 8:35 pm

Get Real! wrote:
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Get Real! wrote:
shahmaran wrote:Turks have been on this island for 500 years and have ruled almost all of it.

You on the other hand have not ruled a fifth of the time EVER, so what is your point?

We’ve had our go at 400 years of serfdom so are you now ready for YOURS? Image


From your credible sources. :lol: Before the Ottomans, u didn't even own just an inch of land on Cyprus. :lol:


The former foreign elite was destroyed--its members killed, carried away as captives, or exiled. The Orthodox Christians, i.e., the Greek Cypriots who survived, had new foreign overlords. Some early decisions of these new rulers were welcome innovations. The feudal system was abolished, and the freed serfs were enabled to acquire land and work their own farms. Although the small landholdings of the peasants were heavily taxed, the ending of serfdom changed the lives of the island's ordinary people. Another action of far-reaching importance was the granting of land to Turkish soldiers and peasants who became the nucleus of the island's Turkish community.

Although their homeland had been dominated by foreigners for many centuries, it was only after the imposition of Ottoman rule that Orthodox Christians began to develop a really strong sense of cohesiveness. This change was prompted by the Ottoman practice of ruling the empire through millets, or religious communities. Rather than suppressing the empire's many religious communities, the Turks allowed them a degree of automony as long as they complied with the demands of the sultan. The vast size and the ethnic variety of the empire made such a policy imperative. The system of governing through millets reestablished the authority of the Church of Cyprus and made its head the Greek Cypriot leader, or ethnarch. It became the responsibility of the ethnarch to administer the territories where his flock lived and to collect taxes. The religious convictions and functions of the ethnarch were of no concern to the empire as long as its needs were met.

In 1575 the Turks granted permission for the return of the archbishop and the three bishops of the Church of Cyprus to their respective sees. They also abolished the feudal system for they saw it as an extraneous power structure, unnecessary and dangerous. The autocephalous Church of Cyprus could function in its place for the political and fiscal administration of the island's Christian inhabitants. Its structured hierarchy put even remote villages within easy reach of the central authority. Both parties benefited. Greek Cypriots gained a measure of autonomy, and the empire received revenues without the bother of administration.

Ok, we promise that by 2410 you’ll be able to own land, have a mosque, and a few goats but don’t push it… :lol:


Galimatias! :lol:
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Postby shahmaran » Mon Mar 02, 2009 8:35 pm

Get Real! wrote:
shahmaran wrote:Turks have been on this island for 500 years and have ruled almost all of it.

You on the other hand have not ruled a fifth of the time EVER, so what is your point?

We’ve had our go at 400 years of serfdom so are you now ready for YOURS? Image


:lol:

That's not true, TC's were never the ruling class.

As opposed to what Piratis prefers to shit around and calls it history.

Ottoman rule was the best thing you had here for a long time, nothing compared to what could happen to us under GC rule :shock:
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Postby Get Real! » Mon Mar 02, 2009 8:39 pm

shahmaran wrote:
Get Real! wrote:
shahmaran wrote:Turks have been on this island for 500 years and have ruled almost all of it.

You on the other hand have not ruled a fifth of the time EVER, so what is your point?

We’ve had our go at 400 years of serfdom so are you now ready for YOURS? Image

:lol:

That's not true, TC's were never the ruling class.

As opposed to what Piratis prefers to shit around and calls it history.

Ottoman rule was the best thing you had here for a long time, nothing compared to what could happen to us under GC rule :shock:

I agree entirely and plan nothing less than treating you in kind… everything the Ottomans gave us we will give to you! :D

8)
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Postby Piratis » Mon Mar 02, 2009 8:43 pm

Cyprus is not "owned" by anybody except from its native people. But if we will play your game ...

If Ottomans = Turks, then Byzantines = Greeks. And the Byzantines ruled Cyprus for about 800 years, more than twice as much than what the Ottomans did. And that is without counting the Hellenistic and other periods of our history.
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Postby insan » Mon Mar 02, 2009 8:43 pm

Get Real! wrote:
shahmaran wrote:
Get Real! wrote:
shahmaran wrote:Turks have been on this island for 500 years and have ruled almost all of it.

You on the other hand have not ruled a fifth of the time EVER, so what is your point?

We’ve had our go at 400 years of serfdom so are you now ready for YOURS? Image

:lol:

That's not true, TC's were never the ruling class.

As opposed to what Piratis prefers to shit around and calls it history.

Ottoman rule was the best thing you had here for a long time, nothing compared to what could happen to us under GC rule :shock:

I agree entirely and plan nothing less than treating you in kind… everything the Ottomans gave us we will give to you! :D

8)


We promise we will treat u far better than our fathers; Ottomans. So, don't worry about having equal political status with TCs. :lol:
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Postby shahmaran » Mon Mar 02, 2009 8:51 pm

Piratis wrote:Cyprus is not "owned" by anybody except from its native people. But if we will play your game ...

If Ottomans = Turks, then Byzantines = Greeks. And the Byzantines ruled Cyprus for about 800 years, more than twice as much than what the Ottomans did. And that is without counting the Hellenistic and other periods of our history.


Unfortunately the world doesn't work like that my friend.

You spend all your time drinking wine and bumming other men then someone will come and bum you for as long as they can, as many people did :lol: :lol:

You are not simply GRANTED your lands just because you live there.

If people die for lands then you will have to die for them too, no one is going to give it to you just because you "ask" for it or live there, unless you mean more bumming of course :lol: :lol:

If by Hellenistic periods you mean the times when you were just settlers all around the place then how does that count as "ruling"?

And how the hell does the Roman Empire belong to the Greeks now?

Oh sorry I forget, everything great always belonged to the Greeks, silly me :roll:
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Postby Sotos » Mon Mar 02, 2009 9:13 pm

So the only way to free our island is to kill you?
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