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[paliometoxo]

of course thats why they do it...

if it was not for europe and cyprus being in eu turkey wouldent even be sitting on the table trying to find a solution to cyprus thats how much they dont care about joining eu.. they tried to say the we are losing intrest in eu card before and no one believed it then and no one believes that crap now either.. turkey needs/wants eu enough to blackmail eu for it.

[shahmaran]

You can believe what you like Palio.

The reality is you have no clue and are just an outsider and a very bias interpreter of Turkey's inner workings.

I wouldn't count too much on your interpretations if I were you, you do not have the capabilities (nor the knowledge seems like) to be a balanced judge of the situation.

[Piratis]

shahmaran, forget about whether Turkey will actually join the EU or not. If at some point soon the accession process brakes down, do you think this will not affect Turkey negatively?

Turkey has been an unstable country with several coups, conflicts between Turks and Kurds, problems between Secularists and Islamists etc.

The EU accession process is the mechanism that gives insurance to the foreign investors that Turkey will continue on the "right" direction and that although it might take decades to actually join the EU, that the EU accession alone will keep Turkey stable.

If the EU access process ends then the economy of Turkey will collapse.

[Viewpoint]

shahmaran, forget about whether Turkey will actually join the EU or not. If at some point soon the accession process brakes down, do you think this will not affect Turkey negatively?

Turkey has been an unstable country with several coups, conflicts between Turks and Kurds, problems between Secularists and Islamists etc.

The EU accession process is the mechanism that gives insurance to the foreign investors that Turkey will continue on the "right" direction and that although it might take decades to actually join the EU, that the EU accession alone will keep Turkey stable.

If the EU access process ends then the economy of Turkey will collapse.

You are so wrong the process has ground to a stop, what has happened? there is a global crisis and Turkey is part of that globe. Turkey will never get into the EU and she knows it, she just playing the game.

[shahmaran]

Turkey has emerged from ruins, it will never collapse.

Show me one country on the level Turkey is which doesn't have problems?

People here keep forgetting that Turkey is no better nor worse than any other developing country of its class, probably much better than the latest entries to the EU around Eastern Europe in any way.

Being in the EU is no measure of a standard, it might help countries reach a certain standard in time but by no means its a requirement for its entry.

Turkey is just being played around with false hopes and so are its politicians using the entry to the EU as a political weapon, that's all.

They are already in the European market, recently they have lifted European visa requirements for Turkish businessmen and they have MILLIONS of Turks living there, its not a problem if they don't get in.

I really hope they don't!

[DT.]

Turkey has emerged from ruins, it will never collapse.

Show me one country on the level Turkey is which doesn't have problems?

People here keep forgetting that Turkey is no better nor worse than any other developing country of its class, probably much better than the latest entries to the EU around Eastern Europe in any way.

Being in the EU is no measure of a standard, it might help countries reach a certain standard in time but by no means its a requirement for its entry.

Turkey is just being played around with false hopes and so are its politicians using the entry to the EU as a political weapon, that's all.

They are already in the European market, recently they have lifted European visa requirements for Turkish businessmen and they have MILLIONS of Turks living there, its not a problem if they don't get in.

I really hope they don't!

One of the partners in my company is Turkish...every time we have a meeting in the EU, lifted visa requirements are not something he sees.

[shahmaran]

Turkey has emerged from ruins, it will never collapse.

Show me one country on the level Turkey is which doesn't have problems?

People here keep forgetting that Turkey is no better nor worse than any other developing country of its class, probably much better than the latest entries to the EU around Eastern Europe in any way.

Being in the EU is no measure of a standard, it might help countries reach a certain standard in time but by no means its a requirement for its entry.

Turkey is just being played around with false hopes and so are its politicians using the entry to the EU as a political weapon, that's all.

They are already in the European market, recently they have lifted European visa requirements for Turkish businessmen and they have MILLIONS of Turks living there, its not a problem if they don't get in.

I really hope they don't!

One of the partners in my company is Turkish...every time we have a meeting in the EU, lifted visa requirements are not something he sees.

It's a very recent happening.

EU court drops visa requirements for Turkish businessmen

20/02/2009

LUXEMBOURG, Luxembourg -- The European Court of Justice (ECJ) decided on Thursday (February 19th) that Turkish businessmen need not apply for a visa to make business trips to EU member states. The court ruled in favour of two Turkish nationals who filed a case against Germany in 2007 over visa requirements for Turkish lorry drivers who enter EU countries to provide services. The ECJ said the requirement violates the Ankara Protocol on the Turkey-EU customs union. Observers describe the ECJ decision as a step towards lifting many other restrictions that EU countries currently impose on Turkish nationals. (Hurriyet, Milliyet, Sabah, Vatan, Cumhuriyet, Zaman - 20/02/09)

http://www.setimes.com/cocoon/setimes/xhtml/en_GB/newsbriefs/setimes/newsbriefs/2009/02/20/nb-07

[DT.]

Turkey has emerged from ruins, it will never collapse.

Show me one country on the level Turkey is which doesn't have problems?

People here keep forgetting that Turkey is no better nor worse than any other developing country of its class, probably much better than the latest entries to the EU around Eastern Europe in any way.

Being in the EU is no measure of a standard, it might help countries reach a certain standard in time but by no means its a requirement for its entry.

Turkey is just being played around with false hopes and so are its politicians using the entry to the EU as a political weapon, that's all.

They are already in the European market, recently they have lifted European visa requirements for Turkish businessmen and they have MILLIONS of Turks living there, its not a problem if they don't get in.

I really hope they don't!

One of the partners in my company is Turkish...every time we have a meeting in the EU, lifted visa requirements are not something he sees.

It's a very recent happening.

EU court drops visa requirements for Turkish businessmen

20/02/2009

LUXEMBOURG, Luxembourg -- The European Court of Justice (ECJ) decided on Thursday (February 19th) that Turkish businessmen need not apply for a visa to make business trips to EU member states. The court ruled in favour of two Turkish nationals who filed a case against Germany in 2007 over visa requirements for Turkish lorry drivers who enter EU countries to provide services. The ECJ said the requirement violates the Ankara Protocol on the Turkey-EU customs union. Observers describe the ECJ decision as a step towards lifting many other restrictions that EU countries currently impose on Turkish nationals. (Hurriyet, Milliyet, Sabah, Vatan, Cumhuriyet, Zaman - 20/02/09)

http://www.setimes.com/cocoon/setimes/xhtml/en_GB/newsbriefs/setimes/newsbriefs/2009/02/20/nb-07

We just met in London last week. He had to send his passport to the UK for a week before they issued him with a visa!!