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Turkish Cypriots and the settlers puzzle

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Postby Oracle » Tue Mar 03, 2009 2:49 pm

Shah ...

I don't believe I ever described the Ottomans as a "race". That is just you being a racist again!

There is only one race .... the Human Race and we are all part and parcel of it.

My interests lie in the migratory routes we followed and the cultural identities we nurtured because of the different environmental and climactic conditions we experienced over the last 150,000 years since our mother (Eve) left Africa. And the more recent historical and political delineations we derived as we became self-conscious.

Shah I think we are talking at cross purposes again ... you as a racist; and myself as a socio-linguo-genetico-anthropo-historico-cum-politico-philosophi-psychogeolocentred-ologist-ish!

As for the propaganda accusations and my numerous postings; well that's just you handing in the towel when you have lost to me in debate again 8) ... Thus you can add chief-debater to the end of my job description above ... :lol:
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Postby denizaksulu » Tue Mar 03, 2009 3:29 pm

Oracle wrote:Turks .. Settlers ... TCs .... they are all the same now!

If they can't live with the rest of the Cypriots ... they need to go back to Turkey ... all of them!



With that, I agree.

Cyprus for Cypriots. GC and TC + the Latins and Maronites. :lol:
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Postby YFred » Tue Mar 03, 2009 3:31 pm

denizaksulu wrote:
Oracle wrote:Turks .. Settlers ... TCs .... they are all the same now!

If they can't live with the rest of the Cypriots ... they need to go back to Turkey ... all of them!



With that, I agree.

Cyprus for Cypriots. GC and TC + the Latins and Maronites. :lol:

Yeah?
What about hte lovely Kalamaras and he Kalamaresses though.
The Greeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeks.
So painful to say.
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Postby Nikitas » Tue Mar 03, 2009 3:32 pm

"In that population stats there r some years that GC population increased 10.000, 15.000, 18.000 in one year while in most of the years the population increase was normally 6.000, 7.000 or 8.000.

Furthermore, dring the British rule, it is a well known fact that most of the TCs migrated to Turkey in early 1900s, 1923, 1945-46 and late 50s. Despite tens of thousands of TCs migrated mainly to Turkey and some other countries of the world; there r some years during British rule that total population of Cyprus increased abnormally."

3 per cent of 600 000 is 18000, a normal rate of rise for a developing country. Turkey's annual population increase is as high if not higher.

As for emigration, Cyprus as a whole had lots of people emigrating, and that is why today there are large communities of Greek and Turkish Cypriots in the UK, Australia and elsewhere.

The fact of the matter is that the British did not allow free immigration to Cyprus from either Greece or Turkey or from anywhere else. The British applied strict rules covering entry into Cyprus and you can research this from the statute books of the period. So there were NO immigrants from Greece settling in Cyprus.

The usual exceptions for men, (women had no such right), marrying foreign women and bringing them to the island applied. In all my time in Cyprus in the 50s I met perhaps maybe a dozen couples where the wife was an "import" and not all of them were Greek women.
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Postby DT. » Tue Mar 03, 2009 3:34 pm

YFred wrote:
denizaksulu wrote:
Oracle wrote:Turks .. Settlers ... TCs .... they are all the same now!

If they can't live with the rest of the Cypriots ... they need to go back to Turkey ... all of them!



With that, I agree.

Cyprus for Cypriots. GC and TC + the Latins and Maronites. :lol:

Yeah?
What about hte lovely Kalamaras and he Kalamaresses though.
The Greeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeks.
So painful to say.


This is the EU pal. Greece is a part of it and anyone from the EU wishing to reside here is welcome.
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Postby DT. » Tue Mar 03, 2009 3:35 pm

Nikitas wrote:"In that population stats there r some years that GC population increased 10.000, 15.000, 18.000 in one year while in most of the years the population increase was normally 6.000, 7.000 or 8.000.

Furthermore, dring the British rule, it is a well known fact that most of the TCs migrated to Turkey in early 1900s, 1923, 1945-46 and late 50s. Despite tens of thousands of TCs migrated mainly to Turkey and some other countries of the world; there r some years during British rule that total population of Cyprus increased abnormally."

3 per cent of 600 000 is 18000, a normal rate of rise for a developing country. Turkey's annual population increase is as high if not higher.

As for emigration, Cyprus as a whole had lots of people emigrating, and that is why today there are large communities of Greek and Turkish Cypriots in the UK, Australia and elsewhere.

The fact of the matter is that the British did not allow free immigration to Cyprus from either Greece or Turkey or from anywhere else. The British applied strict rules covering entry into Cyprus and you can research this from the statute books of the period. So there were NO immigrants from Greece settling in Cyprus.

The usual exceptions for men, (women had no such right), marrying foreign women and bringing them to the island applied. In all my time in Cyprus in the 50s I met perhaps maybe a dozen couples where the wife was an "import" and not all of them were Greek women.


Actually the most that I've met had "imported" British wives.
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Postby YFred » Tue Mar 03, 2009 3:37 pm

DT. wrote:
YFred wrote:
denizaksulu wrote:
Oracle wrote:Turks .. Settlers ... TCs .... they are all the same now!

If they can't live with the rest of the Cypriots ... they need to go back to Turkey ... all of them!



With that, I agree.

Cyprus for Cypriots. GC and TC + the Latins and Maronites. :lol:

Yeah?
What about hte lovely Kalamaras and he Kalamaresses though.
The Greeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeks.
So painful to say.


This is the EU pal. Greece is a part of it and anyone from the EU wishing to reside here is welcome.

Oh well. Bring in the whole 8 million sodding lot of them mate, see if I care so long as they stay in the southern federation, no problem.
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Postby YFred » Tue Mar 03, 2009 3:40 pm

Nikitas wrote:"In that population stats there r some years that GC population increased 10.000, 15.000, 18.000 in one year while in most of the years the population increase was normally 6.000, 7.000 or 8.000.

Furthermore, dring the British rule, it is a well known fact that most of the TCs migrated to Turkey in early 1900s, 1923, 1945-46 and late 50s. Despite tens of thousands of TCs migrated mainly to Turkey and some other countries of the world; there r some years during British rule that total population of Cyprus increased abnormally."

3 per cent of 600 000 is 18000, a normal rate of rise for a developing country. Turkey's annual population increase is as high if not higher.

As for emigration, Cyprus as a whole had lots of people emigrating, and that is why today there are large communities of Greek and Turkish Cypriots in the UK, Australia and elsewhere.

The fact of the matter is that the British did not allow free immigration to Cyprus from either Greece or Turkey or from anywhere else. The British applied strict rules covering entry into Cyprus and you can research this from the statute books of the period. So there were NO immigrants from Greece settling in Cyprus.

The usual exceptions for men, (women had no such right), marrying foreign women and bringing them to the island applied. In all my time in Cyprus in the 50s I met perhaps maybe a dozen couples where the wife was an "import" and not all of them were Greek women.

How much was the import duty?
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Postby denizaksulu » Tue Mar 03, 2009 3:47 pm

YFred wrote:
denizaksulu wrote:
Oracle wrote:Turks .. Settlers ... TCs .... they are all the same now!

If they can't live with the rest of the Cypriots ... they need to go back to Turkey ... all of them!



With that, I agree.

Cyprus for Cypriots. GC and TC + the Latins and Maronites. :lol:

Yeah?
What about hte lovely Kalamaras and he Kalamaresses though.
The Greeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeks.
So painful to say.



If you want to make love to them, then they too are welcome. :lol: :wink:
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Postby DT. » Tue Mar 03, 2009 3:53 pm

YFred wrote:
DT. wrote:
YFred wrote:
denizaksulu wrote:
Oracle wrote:Turks .. Settlers ... TCs .... they are all the same now!

If they can't live with the rest of the Cypriots ... they need to go back to Turkey ... all of them!



With that, I agree.

Cyprus for Cypriots. GC and TC + the Latins and Maronites. :lol:

Yeah?
What about hte lovely Kalamaras and he Kalamaresses though.
The Greeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeks.
So painful to say.


This is the EU pal. Greece is a part of it and anyone from the EU wishing to reside here is welcome.

Oh well. Bring in the whole 8 million sodding lot of them mate, see if I care so long as they stay in the southern federation, no problem.


whole of Cyprus is in the EU matey...
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