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Turkish Cypriots and the settlers puzzle

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Postby Sotos » Mon Mar 02, 2009 9:17 pm

insan wrote:
Sotos wrote:When the Barbarian Mongoloid Turks came to Cyprus they killed 20.000 Cypriots. Is that before you counted those 60.000 or after? :roll:


I thought Ottomans warred against Venetians not with poor Orthodox serfs that Ottomans have already had sympathy towards because of inter-marriage affairs. :roll:


:roll: You thought wrong. So now you know you were wrong fuck of from our island.
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Postby shahmaran » Mon Mar 02, 2009 9:18 pm

Tabi ak!

You want fries with that? :lol:
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Postby insan » Mon Mar 02, 2009 9:25 pm

Sotos wrote:
insan wrote:
Sotos wrote:When the Barbarian Mongoloid Turks came to Cyprus they killed 20.000 Cypriots. Is that before you counted those 60.000 or after? :roll:


I thought Ottomans warred against Venetians not with poor Orthodox serfs that Ottomans have already had sympathy towards because of inter-marriage affairs. :roll:


:roll: You thought wrong. So now you know you were wrong fuck of from our island.


U were taught wrong, I'm sure. :lol:

For their part, the Patriarchs regarded the tolerant rule of the Ottomans as preferable to rule by the Catholic Venetians, who threatened the Orthodox faith in a way the Ottomans did not. When the Ottomans fought the Venetians, the Greeks generally sided with the Ottomans. Yet, the Greek Orthodox Church, an ethno-religious institution, helped the Greeks from all geographical areas of the peninsula (i.e. mountains, plains, and islands) to preserve their ethnic, cultural, linguistic, and racial heritage.



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Postby shahmaran » Mon Mar 02, 2009 9:33 pm

I don't think they are thought wrong insan, I think they just choose to ignore certain facts of history for their convenience.

Surely the great civilised European Greeks would not teach wrong history on purpose would they? :roll:
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Postby Sotos » Mon Mar 02, 2009 9:35 pm

We are the Cypriots, you are the foreigners. We don't want you in our island. Now you trying to tell us that we wanted you to come and kill and oppress us and all that bullshit :roll: Whatever. We don't want you. This is our island not yours. So fuck off.
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Postby shahmaran » Mon Mar 02, 2009 9:39 pm

Sotos wrote:We are the Cypriots, you are the foreigners. We don't want you in our island. Now you trying to tell us that we wanted you to come and kill and oppress us and all that bullshit :roll: Whatever. We don't want you. This is our island not yours. So fuck off.


You never had a choice Sotos.

That's the problem you have when you never actually rule a place, you don't get a choice to say, the big boys do.

Its too late for this now, we are Cypriots and here to stay, deal with it.
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Postby insan » Mon Mar 02, 2009 9:45 pm

shahmaran wrote:I don't think they are thought wrong insan, I think they just choose to ignore certain facts of history for their convenience.

Surely the great civilised European Greeks would not teach wrong history on purpose would they? :roll:


shahmaran, they have nothing to ignore because their ancestors skipped all the essential facts and invented totally artificial history text-books for the new generations. A kind of false nation building process, i guess.

144 Turks also intermarried with Greeks and Georgians. Greek sources style the offspring of such unions mixovarvaroi. "Though this phenomenon of intermarriage and the appearance of a new generation of mixovarvaroi is only briefly mentioned by the sources, one must assume that it was no rare or isolated occurrence. These mixovarvaroi suffered occasionally from a dichotomy of political sympathy and allegiance, but in the long run their appearance in Anatolia resulted in a process that favored the growth of the Muslim population at the expense of the Christian population, because Muslim society dominated politically and militarily. It is interesting, but unprofitable, to speculate about what would have happened to the Anatolian mixovarvaroi under different political circumstances" (DMH p. 176). Vryonis continues elsewhere: "There is every reason to suppose that intermarriage took place rather extensively from the very beginning of the Turkish occupation of Anatolia and for several centuries thereafter. Anna Comnena speaks of the offspring of such unions as mixovarvaroi, and the twelfth-century Balsamon refers to their curious practises. When the Greek historian Nicephorus Gregoras passed through Bithynia en route to Nicaea in the middle of the fourteenth century, just one generation after the conquest of Nicaea, he observed that the population consisted of Greeks, mixovarvaroi (Graeco-Turks), and Turks. Thus intermarriage of Muslim and Christians at every level of society played a very important role in the integration and absorption of the Greek Christian element into Muslim society" (DMH pp. 228-29). The Turkish-language equivalent of mixovarvaroi may have been ikdish, signifying a gelding or cross-bred animal, particularly a mule. See PT pp. 192-93.




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Postby Oracle » Mon Mar 02, 2009 9:47 pm

shahmaran wrote:
Sotos wrote:We are the Cypriots, you are the foreigners. We don't want you in our island. Now you trying to tell us that we wanted you to come and kill and oppress us and all that bullshit :roll: Whatever. We don't want you. This is our island not yours. So fuck off.


You never had a choice Sotos.

That's the problem you have when you never actually rule a place, you don't get a choice to say, the big boys do.

Its too late for this now, we are Cypriots and here to stay, deal with it.


You are not Cypriot whilst you occupy territory that belongs to the RoC, yet deny its existence and government, and instead allow it to be ruled by foreign invaders and colonisers.
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Postby Sotos » Mon Mar 02, 2009 9:48 pm

shahmaran wrote:
Sotos wrote:We are the Cypriots, you are the foreigners. We don't want you in our island. Now you trying to tell us that we wanted you to come and kill and oppress us and all that bullshit :roll: Whatever. We don't want you. This is our island not yours. So fuck off.


You never had a choice Sotos.

That's the problem you have when you never actually rule a place, you don't get a choice to say, the big boys do.

Its too late for this now, we are Cypriots and here to stay, deal with it.


You can stay as the minority that you are. If you want anything more then you will have to go.
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Postby Oracle » Mon Mar 02, 2009 9:49 pm

insan wrote:
Sotos wrote:When the Barbarian Mongoloid Turks came to Cyprus they killed 20.000 Cypriots. Is that before you counted those 60.000 or after? :roll:


I thought Ottomans warred against Venetians not with poor Orthodox serfs that Ottomans have already had sympathy towards because of inter-marriage affairs. :roll:


There is no evidence for your fantasies. The Ottoman _ Turks brought over their harems of women ....
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