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Postby halil » Wed Mar 04, 2009 8:54 pm

Here is the how is the minority rights in your mamma land Greece .

http://www.hrw.org/legacy/reports/1999/ ... 991-06.htm

hava a look ..... yes u can not look !!!!!!

u are the angels , we are the devils !!!!!
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Postby shahmaran » Wed Mar 04, 2009 8:58 pm

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I was trying to find where all this hatred is coming from other than ( you invaded the island twice and bla bla )


So you think that invading our island, ethnically cleansing us and stealing our land is not a big deal and that we shouldn't hate you for it? :roll:


First "you" started invading our island, ethnically cleansing us and stealing our land between the years 1963-67. Then in 1974 it was "you" again prepared yourself to invade whole Cyprus and finish "your" job with a Junta backed fascist criminals together with significant amount of NG and reservists. As a consequence of the combat between Hellenic forces and Turkish forces u managed to capture only 61% of our Island and 35% remained for us? So why do u cry now for something "you" caused.


You first invaded us in 1571. Then in every year until 1878 you oppressed and killed us. Then in 1958 you started to kill us again. So what 1963 are you talking about? By 1963 you had already killed over 30.000 Cypriots and oppressed us for more than 300 years already. So 1963 was not what happened first. And this is our island. Are you saying that in 1963 Cypriots invaded Cyprus? :lol: :lol: You are the invaders you fool. If Turks had not invaded Cyprus then there would be peace in Cyprus and no problems. Your invasions of our island is the problem of Cyprus.


We invaded Venetian land.


:roll: And then you were killing and oppressing Venetians for 300 years. Then in 1958 you attacked the Venetians again. And then the GCs dropped from the sky in Cyprus in 1963 :roll: Do you have any more Turkish fairy tales? :roll:


Sotos you are a moron.

You were just a hand full of peasants living under one of the biggest empires on the planet.

What you think you were ever so special that got special treatment from the Ottomans, who constantly needed to "oppress and kill you"?

You were just as oppressed or happy or free as anyone else living under the Ottoman rule.

Yet you are the one who still bitches about it because you have been filled with this shit to help you fight in your unjust war in order to prevent us people from living on our country in peace.

Because you have NO OTHER substantial excuse that you can put forward to justify the killings and oppression you have committed towards the Turkish community on the island since the fall of the empire.

Go read some independent history books god damn it, you have the intellect of a week old roadkill :roll:
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Postby insan » Wed Mar 04, 2009 9:06 pm

insan wrote:
DT. wrote:
halil wrote:
insan wrote:
Sotos wrote:
I was trying to find where all this hatred is coming from other than ( you invaded the island twice and bla bla )


So you think that invading our island, ethnically cleansing us and stealing our land is not a big deal and that we shouldn't hate you for it? :roll:


First "you" started invading our island, ethnically cleansing us and stealing our land between the years 1963-67. Then in 1974 it was "you" again prepared yourself to invade whole Cyprus and finish "your" job with a Junta backed fascist criminals together with significant amount of NG and reservists. As a consequence of the combat between Hellenic forces and Turkish forces u managed to capture only 61% of our Island and 35% remained for us? So why do u cry now for something "you" caused.


well said Insan ..... This is the summary of the Bloody Cyprus problem that we are living since 21'st December 1963 .


Thats right Halil...we dressed up our dad's and uncles into turkish soldiers and they kicked us out of our homes while raping little girls on the way.

your lack of respect to the personal losses of 200,000 GC's in 74 is an insult to all of us. I have always shown respect and remorse at any atrocities that were committed by the GC's in the 60's but now this is the end. You don't give a shit and the cover up of cooperation as you call it is fine as long as you have your own way and Bayrak keeps you all on the payroll after a solution.

To claim that you defended and remained with 35% of the land that just happens to include the homes of 200,000 people is a spit in the face.

The bloody Cyprus problem that your dipshit friend just described forgot to say a few things,.

It left out the TMT killings and provocazia that started the violence, it left out the instructions from Turkish Generals leading units of TMT fighters in Cyprus....it left out the mass killing by napalm while you were "defending" yourselves, it left out the countless atrocities your Troops and the TC traitors of this island who joined hands along with the GC traitors to FUCK the rest of us up.

It left out the fact that the island was ready to agree to a peaceful resolution before you decided that you need to steal 35% of the island in a SECOND invasion. It left out that Turkey has broken the Treaty of Gurantee by maintaing its troops on this island and by declaring a separate bastard state.

Thats right, he left many things out which you off course agree with


DT, can u please answer my questions briefly?

1- What should Turkish leadership have done when Makarios proposed 13 amendments with a sole aim of degrading TCs into minority status?

2- How should TMT have acted during those years while u had many more than TMT alike organizations ready to act like TMT?

Please tell me. Where did TC leadership, TMT and Turkey go wrong?


Telling the truths does not mean we have no respect for those who lost their lives, beloveds and properties. I'd wish no conflicts have ever been between the 2 main communities of Cyprus and no one would have lost their lives, beloveds and properties. This would have been possible if u have ever considered us as a politically equal community in Cyprus.
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Postby halil » Wed Mar 04, 2009 9:07 pm

insan wrote:
DT. wrote:
halil wrote:
insan wrote:
Sotos wrote:
I was trying to find where all this hatred is coming from other than ( you invaded the island twice and bla bla )


So you think that invading our island, ethnically cleansing us and stealing our land is not a big deal and that we shouldn't hate you for it? :roll:


First "you" started invading our island, ethnically cleansing us and stealing our land between the years 1963-67. Then in 1974 it was "you" again prepared yourself to invade whole Cyprus and finish "your" job with a Junta backed fascist criminals together with significant amount of NG and reservists. As a consequence of the combat between Hellenic forces and Turkish forces u managed to capture only 61% of our Island and 35% remained for us? So why do u cry now for something "you" caused.


well said Insan ..... This is the summary of the Bloody Cyprus problem that we are living since 21'st December 1963 .


Thats right Halil...we dressed up our dad's and uncles into turkish soldiers and they kicked us out of our homes while raping little girls on the way.

your lack of respect to the personal losses of 200,000 GC's in 74 is an insult to all of us. I have always shown respect and remorse at any atrocities that were committed by the GC's in the 60's but now this is the end. You don't give a shit and the cover up of cooperation as you call it is fine as long as you have your own way and Bayrak keeps you all on the payroll after a solution.

To claim that you defended and remained with 35% of the land that just happens to include the homes of 200,000 people is a spit in the face.

The bloody Cyprus problem that your dipshit friend just described forgot to say a few things,.

It left out the TMT killings and provocazia that started the violence, it left out the instructions from Turkish Generals leading units of TMT fighters in Cyprus....it left out the mass killing by napalm while you were "defending" yourselves, it left out the countless atrocities your Troops and the TC traitors of this island who joined hands along with the GC traitors to FUCK the rest of us up.

It left out the fact that the island was ready to agree to a peaceful resolution before you decided that you need to steal 35% of the island in a SECOND invasion. It left out that Turkey has broken the Treaty of Gurantee by maintaing its troops on this island and by declaring a separate bastard state.

Thats right, he left many things out which you off course agree with


DT, can u please answer my questions briefly?

1- What should Turkish leadership have done when Makarios proposed 13 amendments with a sole aim of degrading TCs into minority status?

2- How should TMT have acted during those years while u had many more than TMT alike organizations ready to act like TMT?

Please tell me. Where did TC leadership, TMT and Turkey went wrong.



DT my friends what ever happened in Cyprus is only result of the hungry eyes of the your Leadership .Everything was sorted out at 1960 . what u have done as İnsan says at above ....13 points ....yes my friend bloody 13 points .... greedy people were not satisfied .... it follewd 1963 -1967 coup than result of the today .... same things apply for u DT ....Those EOKa men were our fathers they were dressed in it . No one is insulting those people who are lost their homes . he is telling the truth ... what is coused it .... yes he was right to say it . there was no Turkish army from 1963 up to morning of 20 july 1974 . If you don't stop where you should stop ... some one comes and stops u ....

Insan ,first of all Republic of Cyprus was established as a equal partnership of Turkish Cypriots and Greek Cypriots .There will be no over rulling between 2 sides .
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Postby DT. » Wed Mar 04, 2009 9:09 pm

insan wrote:
DT. wrote:
halil wrote:
insan wrote:
Sotos wrote:
I was trying to find where all this hatred is coming from other than ( you invaded the island twice and bla bla )


So you think that invading our island, ethnically cleansing us and stealing our land is not a big deal and that we shouldn't hate you for it? :roll:


First "you" started invading our island, ethnically cleansing us and stealing our land between the years 1963-67. Then in 1974 it was "you" again prepared yourself to invade whole Cyprus and finish "your" job with a Junta backed fascist criminals together with significant amount of NG and reservists. As a consequence of the combat between Hellenic forces and Turkish forces u managed to capture only 61% of our Island and 35% remained for us? So why do u cry now for something "you" caused.


well said Insan ..... This is the summary of the Bloody Cyprus problem that we are living since 21'st December 1963 .


Thats right Halil...we dressed up our dad's and uncles into turkish soldiers and they kicked us out of our homes while raping little girls on the way.

your lack of respect to the personal losses of 200,000 GC's in 74 is an insult to all of us. I have always shown respect and remorse at any atrocities that were committed by the GC's in the 60's but now this is the end. You don't give a shit and the cover up of cooperation as you call it is fine as long as you have your own way and Bayrak keeps you all on the payroll after a solution.

To claim that you defended and remained with 35% of the land that just happens to include the homes of 200,000 people is a spit in the face.

The bloody Cyprus problem that your dipshit friend just described forgot to say a few things,.

It left out the TMT killings and provocazia that started the violence, it left out the instructions from Turkish Generals leading units of TMT fighters in Cyprus....it left out the mass killing by napalm while you were "defending" yourselves, it left out the countless atrocities your Troops and the TC traitors of this island who joined hands along with the GC traitors to FUCK the rest of us up.

It left out the fact that the island was ready to agree to a peaceful resolution before you decided that you need to steal 35% of the island in a SECOND invasion. It left out that Turkey has broken the Treaty of Gurantee by maintaing its troops on this island and by declaring a separate bastard state.

Thats right, he left many things out which you off course agree with


DT, can u please answer my questions briefly?

1- What should Turkish leadership have done when Makarios proposed 13 amendments with a sole aim of degrading TCs into minority status?

2- How should TMT have acted during those years while u had many more than TMT alike organizations ready to act like TMT?

Please tell me. Where did TC leadership, TMT and Turkey go wrong?


Give ne a break...the Turkish govt called on Kutchuk and denktash to go back into the govt. Kutchuk wrote a very touching letter saying he'd rather go back to turkey. Can you tell me why there were plans to leave the govt found in your ministers cabinets issued by denktash and kutchuk before the amendments even came up?

You wanted taksim mate....face it with or without the amednments you would have left the govt and found some way to invite turkey into our island.
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Postby DT. » Wed Mar 04, 2009 9:11 pm

halil wrote:Here is the how is the minority rights in your mamma land Greece .

http://www.hrw.org/legacy/reports/1999/ ... 991-06.htm

hava a look ..... yes u can not look !!!!!!

u are the angels , we are the devils !!!!!


you compare this with invading 1/3 of a country and ethnic cleansing its people out????

I couldn't care less about Greece or any other mamma land. YOU halil are the only one with a mamma land...you are the one that needs to travel to ankara every 2 seconds to ask for permission for anything. I couldn't give a flying one for you mamma land or anyone else's mamma land.
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Postby DT. » Wed Mar 04, 2009 9:12 pm

halil wrote:
insan wrote:
DT. wrote:
halil wrote:
insan wrote:
Sotos wrote:
I was trying to find where all this hatred is coming from other than ( you invaded the island twice and bla bla )


So you think that invading our island, ethnically cleansing us and stealing our land is not a big deal and that we shouldn't hate you for it? :roll:


First "you" started invading our island, ethnically cleansing us and stealing our land between the years 1963-67. Then in 1974 it was "you" again prepared yourself to invade whole Cyprus and finish "your" job with a Junta backed fascist criminals together with significant amount of NG and reservists. As a consequence of the combat between Hellenic forces and Turkish forces u managed to capture only 61% of our Island and 35% remained for us? So why do u cry now for something "you" caused.


well said Insan ..... This is the summary of the Bloody Cyprus problem that we are living since 21'st December 1963 .


Thats right Halil...we dressed up our dad's and uncles into turkish soldiers and they kicked us out of our homes while raping little girls on the way.

your lack of respect to the personal losses of 200,000 GC's in 74 is an insult to all of us. I have always shown respect and remorse at any atrocities that were committed by the GC's in the 60's but now this is the end. You don't give a shit and the cover up of cooperation as you call it is fine as long as you have your own way and Bayrak keeps you all on the payroll after a solution.

To claim that you defended and remained with 35% of the land that just happens to include the homes of 200,000 people is a spit in the face.

The bloody Cyprus problem that your dipshit friend just described forgot to say a few things,.

It left out the TMT killings and provocazia that started the violence, it left out the instructions from Turkish Generals leading units of TMT fighters in Cyprus....it left out the mass killing by napalm while you were "defending" yourselves, it left out the countless atrocities your Troops and the TC traitors of this island who joined hands along with the GC traitors to FUCK the rest of us up.

It left out the fact that the island was ready to agree to a peaceful resolution before you decided that you need to steal 35% of the island in a SECOND invasion. It left out that Turkey has broken the Treaty of Gurantee by maintaing its troops on this island and by declaring a separate bastard state.

Thats right, he left many things out which you off course agree with


DT, can u please answer my questions briefly?

1- What should Turkish leadership have done when Makarios proposed 13 amendments with a sole aim of degrading TCs into minority status?

2- How should TMT have acted during those years while u had many more than TMT alike organizations ready to act like TMT?

Please tell me. Where did TC leadership, TMT and Turkey went wrong.



DT my friends what ever happened in Cyprus is only result of the hungry eyes of the your Leadership .Everything was sorted out at 1960 . what u have done as İnsan says at above ....13 points ....yes my friend bloody 13 points .... greedy people were not satisfied .... it follewd 1963 -1967 coup than result of the today .... same things apply for u DT ....Those EOKa men were our fathers they were dressed in it . No one is insulting those people who are lost their homes . he is telling the truth ... what is coused it .... yes he was right to say it . there was no Turkish army from 1963 up to morning of 20 july 1974 . If you don't stop where you should stop ... some one comes and stops u ....

Insan ,first of all Republic of Cyprus was established as a equal partnership of Turkish Cypriots and Greek Cypriots .There will be no over rulling between 2 sides .


YOU ARE a HYPOCRITE
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Postby insan » Wed Mar 04, 2009 9:23 pm

DT. wrote:
insan wrote:
DT. wrote:
halil wrote:
insan wrote:
Sotos wrote:
I was trying to find where all this hatred is coming from other than ( you invaded the island twice and bla bla )


So you think that invading our island, ethnically cleansing us and stealing our land is not a big deal and that we shouldn't hate you for it? :roll:


First "you" started invading our island, ethnically cleansing us and stealing our land between the years 1963-67. Then in 1974 it was "you" again prepared yourself to invade whole Cyprus and finish "your" job with a Junta backed fascist criminals together with significant amount of NG and reservists. As a consequence of the combat between Hellenic forces and Turkish forces u managed to capture only 61% of our Island and 35% remained for us? So why do u cry now for something "you" caused.


well said Insan ..... This is the summary of the Bloody Cyprus problem that we are living since 21'st December 1963 .


Thats right Halil...we dressed up our dad's and uncles into turkish soldiers and they kicked us out of our homes while raping little girls on the way.

your lack of respect to the personal losses of 200,000 GC's in 74 is an insult to all of us. I have always shown respect and remorse at any atrocities that were committed by the GC's in the 60's but now this is the end. You don't give a shit and the cover up of cooperation as you call it is fine as long as you have your own way and Bayrak keeps you all on the payroll after a solution.

To claim that you defended and remained with 35% of the land that just happens to include the homes of 200,000 people is a spit in the face.

The bloody Cyprus problem that your dipshit friend just described forgot to say a few things,.

It left out the TMT killings and provocazia that started the violence, it left out the instructions from Turkish Generals leading units of TMT fighters in Cyprus....it left out the mass killing by napalm while you were "defending" yourselves, it left out the countless atrocities your Troops and the TC traitors of this island who joined hands along with the GC traitors to FUCK the rest of us up.

It left out the fact that the island was ready to agree to a peaceful resolution before you decided that you need to steal 35% of the island in a SECOND invasion. It left out that Turkey has broken the Treaty of Gurantee by maintaing its troops on this island and by declaring a separate bastard state.

Thats right, he left many things out which you off course agree with


DT, can u please answer my questions briefly?

1- What should Turkish leadership have done when Makarios proposed 13 amendments with a sole aim of degrading TCs into minority status?

2- How should TMT have acted during those years while u had many more than TMT alike organizations ready to act like TMT?

Please tell me. Where did TC leadership, TMT and Turkey go wrong?


Give ne a break...the Turkish govt called on Kutchuk and denktash to go back into the govt. Kutchuk wrote a very touching letter saying he'd rather go back to turkey. Can you tell me why there were plans to leave the govt found in your ministers cabinets issued by denktash and kutchuk before the amendments even came up?

You wanted taksim mate....face it with or without the amednments you would have left the govt and found some way to invite turkey into our island.


Because they knew from the 1940s and onwards that GC community backed by Greece would never accept political equality of TC community. They considered the situation as a waste of time. They knew the GC leadership and the then situation in Cyprus far better than Inonu; a prime minister that his priority was the huge problems of his own country.

What would have changed if TCs had returned to RoC? GC leadership would have stepped back of degrading TCs into minority status? They would have given up Enosis policy?

Do u mean had TCs not abandoned their posts in RoC; GC leadership would have never proposed 13 amendments and given up majority rule and Enosis?
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Postby Oracle » Wed Mar 04, 2009 9:33 pm

shahmaran wrote:You were just a hand full of peasants living under one of the biggest empires on the planet.

What you think you were ever so special that got special treatment from the Ottomans, who constantly needed to "oppress and kill you"?

You were just as oppressed or happy or free as anyone else living under the Ottoman rule.

Yet you are the one who still bitches about it because you have been filled with this shit to help you fight in your unjust war in order to prevent us people from living on our country in peace.




http://www.unitedhumanrights.org/Turkish.php


http://www.unitedhumanrights.org/Turkis ... ctures.htm
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Postby halil » Wed Mar 04, 2009 9:33 pm

DT. wrote:
halil wrote:Here is the how is the minority rights in your mamma land Greece .

http://www.hrw.org/legacy/reports/1999/ ... 991-06.htm

hava a look ..... yes u can not look !!!!!!

u are the angels , we are the devils !!!!!


you compare this with invading 1/3 of a country and ethnic cleansing its people out????

I couldn't care less about Greece or any other mamma land. YOU halil are the only one with a mamma land...you are the one that needs to travel to ankara every 2 seconds to ask for permission for anything. I couldn't give a flying one for you mamma land or anyone else's mamma land.


Again my friend ..... ethnic cleaning can be done by killing all the population or try to kill all of it .What happened in Cyprus .Yes turkey invaded the island in 1974 because of result of 15 july greek and greek cypriots coup attemps in Cyprus . to stop killing between both sides of the border .... what they have done in Cyprus ..... Population exchange agreement in 1975 at Genova .At this time 165000 GC's went to south from north and 35000 TC's from South to North . For me at that time it was correct desicion to protect both sides people . Because of revange fillings of some idiots they stoped the people of the both sides from get killed.

after the invations many talks has been done .In all talks they always talk about bi-zonal , bi-communal solution plans . still they are talking . with these talks everything will be cleared .

don't tell me u don't get advise from mamma DT .... yes u do !
only u are luckier than us because u are in EU . under the Eu umberalla u are playing the game very well with mamma Greece .At this game no one sees the mamma .mamma is always behind the shadows .
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