insan wrote:Oracle wrote:insan wrote:Oracle wrote:Shah ... I don't believe I ever described the Ottomans as a "race". That is just
you being a
racist again!
There is only
one race .... the Human Race and we are all part and parcel of it.
My interests lie in the migratory routes we followed and the cultural identities we nurtured because of the different environmental and climactic conditions we experienced over the last 150,000 years since our mother (Eve) left Africa. And the more recent historical and political delineations we derived as we became self-conscious.
Shah I think we are talking at cross purposes again ... you as a racist; and myself as a socio-linguo-genetico-anthropo-historico-cum-politico-philosophi-psychogeolocentred-ologist-ish!
As for the propaganda accusations and my numerous postings; well that's just you handing in the towel when you have lost to me in debate again
... Thus you can add chief-debater to the end of my job description above ...
In
one
night
U
Oracle
evolved
this
much?
Yes but that night was 20 years ago, and another story!
..... but I'd love to bring my "memes" up again, but for some reason they seem to make halil and Deniz over-excited
No. It is obvious that last night u completed ur intellectual evolution because it is the first time u built a correct analogy between nations and their cultural identities, environmental and climatic conditions, historical and political delineations...
Before, Turks were ultimate barbarians according to ur Hellenic mentality. No?
See, this is why I brought up memes.
Turks have behaved like barbarians ... that is not up for discussion here, nor has anything that I have said nullified that accusation.
Unfortunately, you seem unable to distinguish between genetic characteristics that we are born with (and can't do much about easily) and the cultural and behavioural characteristics which are mold-able and perfect-able.
Frankly insan, I've tried to have many a discussion along those lines and people just don't "get" the difference ..... and neither do you!
I even had to explain (painfully) to BigAl and Eric Dayi one time, why we as Humans are actually Great Apes and a number of their posts had to be deleted because of the disgusting things they called me for suggesting they were also Great Apes
Anyway ... I've learned it's best to leave the genes and memes out of all this.
Here, have a look at an old phoenix (me) post ...
http://www.cyprus-forum.com/viewtopic.php?p=249588