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Turkish Cypriots and the settlers puzzle

How can we solve it? (keep it civilized)

Postby Oracle » Tue Mar 03, 2009 4:03 pm

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Oracle wrote:Turks .. Settlers ... TCs .... they are all the same now!

If they can't live with the rest of the Cypriots ... they need to go back to Turkey ... all of them!



With that, I agree.

Cyprus for Cypriots. GC and TC + the Latins and Maronites. :lol:


Thanks Deniz! :roll: ... I can explain :?

When others let their guard down, out come all the nasty gremlins full of hate and racism, which they've bottled up.

When I let my guard down, I ooze soft humanitarian, one-world goo!

Will that do?

... otherwise put it down to semantics!
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Postby insan » Tue Mar 03, 2009 4:04 pm

Oracle wrote:Shah ...

I don't believe I ever described the Ottomans as a "race". That is just you being a racist again!

There is only one race .... the Human Race and we are all part and parcel of it.

My interests lie in the migratory routes we followed and the cultural identities we nurtured because of the different environmental and climactic conditions we experienced over the last 150,000 years since our mother (Eve) left Africa. And the more recent historical and political delineations we derived as we became self-conscious.

Shah I think we are talking at cross purposes again ... you as a racist; and myself as a socio-linguo-genetico-anthropo-historico-cum-politico-philosophi-psychogeolocentred-ologist-ish!

As for the propaganda accusations and my numerous postings; well that's just you handing in the towel when you have lost to me in debate again 8) ... Thus you can add chief-debater to the end of my job description above ... :lol:


:shock: In :shock: one :shock: night :shock: U :shock: Oracle :shock: evolved :shock: this :shock: much? :shock: :lol:
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Postby Oracle » Tue Mar 03, 2009 4:11 pm

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Oracle wrote:Shah ...

I don't believe I ever described the Ottomans as a "race". That is just you being a racist again!

There is only one race .... the Human Race and we are all part and parcel of it.

My interests lie in the migratory routes we followed and the cultural identities we nurtured because of the different environmental and climactic conditions we experienced over the last 150,000 years since our mother (Eve) left Africa. And the more recent historical and political delineations we derived as we became self-conscious.

Shah I think we are talking at cross purposes again ... you as a racist; and myself as a socio-linguo-genetico-anthropo-historico-cum-politico-philosophi-psychogeolocentred-ologist-ish!

As for the propaganda accusations and my numerous postings; well that's just you handing in the towel when you have lost to me in debate again 8) ... Thus you can add chief-debater to the end of my job description above ... :lol:


:shock: In :shock: one :shock: night :shock: U :shock: Oracle :shock: evolved :shock: this :shock: much? :shock: :lol:


Yes but that night was 20 years ago, and another story! 8)

..... but I'd love to bring my "memes" up again, but for some reason they seem to make halil and Deniz over-excited :?
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Postby insan » Tue Mar 03, 2009 4:19 pm

Oracle wrote:
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Oracle wrote:Shah ...

I don't believe I ever described the Ottomans as a "race". That is just you being a racist again!

There is only one race .... the Human Race and we are all part and parcel of it.

My interests lie in the migratory routes we followed and the cultural identities we nurtured because of the different environmental and climactic conditions we experienced over the last 150,000 years since our mother (Eve) left Africa. And the more recent historical and political delineations we derived as we became self-conscious.

Shah I think we are talking at cross purposes again ... you as a racist; and myself as a socio-linguo-genetico-anthropo-historico-cum-politico-philosophi-psychogeolocentred-ologist-ish!

As for the propaganda accusations and my numerous postings; well that's just you handing in the towel when you have lost to me in debate again 8) ... Thus you can add chief-debater to the end of my job description above ... :lol:


:shock: In :shock: one :shock: night :shock: U :shock: Oracle :shock: evolved :shock: this :shock: much? :shock: :lol:


Yes but that night was 20 years ago, and another story! 8)

..... but I'd love to bring my "memes" up again, but for some reason they seem to make halil and Deniz over-excited :?


No. It is obvious that last night u completed ur intellectual evolution because it is the first time u built a correct analogy between nations and their cultural identities, environmental and climatic conditions, historical and political delineations... :shock:

Before, Turks were ultimate barbarians according to ur Hellenic mentality. No?
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Postby Oracle » Tue Mar 03, 2009 4:30 pm

insan wrote:
Oracle wrote:
insan wrote:
Oracle wrote:Shah ...

I don't believe I ever described the Ottomans as a "race". That is just you being a racist again!

There is only one race .... the Human Race and we are all part and parcel of it.

My interests lie in the migratory routes we followed and the cultural identities we nurtured because of the different environmental and climactic conditions we experienced over the last 150,000 years since our mother (Eve) left Africa. And the more recent historical and political delineations we derived as we became self-conscious.

Shah I think we are talking at cross purposes again ... you as a racist; and myself as a socio-linguo-genetico-anthropo-historico-cum-politico-philosophi-psychogeolocentred-ologist-ish!

As for the propaganda accusations and my numerous postings; well that's just you handing in the towel when you have lost to me in debate again 8) ... Thus you can add chief-debater to the end of my job description above ... :lol:


:shock: In :shock: one :shock: night :shock: U :shock: Oracle :shock: evolved :shock: this :shock: much? :shock: :lol:


Yes but that night was 20 years ago, and another story! 8)

..... but I'd love to bring my "memes" up again, but for some reason they seem to make halil and Deniz over-excited :?


No. It is obvious that last night u completed ur intellectual evolution because it is the first time u built a correct analogy between nations and their cultural identities, environmental and climatic conditions, historical and political delineations... :shock:

Before, Turks were ultimate barbarians according to ur Hellenic mentality. No?


See, this is why I brought up memes.

Turks have behaved like barbarians ... that is not up for discussion here, nor has anything that I have said nullified that accusation.

Unfortunately, you seem unable to distinguish between genetic characteristics that we are born with (and can't do much about easily) and the cultural and behavioural characteristics which are mold-able and perfect-able.

Frankly insan, I've tried to have many a discussion along those lines and people just don't "get" the difference ..... and neither do you!

I even had to explain (painfully) to BigAl and Eric Dayi one time, why we as Humans are actually Great Apes and a number of their posts had to be deleted because of the disgusting things they called me for suggesting they were also Great Apes :lol:

Anyway ... I've learned it's best to leave the genes and memes out of all this.

Here, have a look at an old phoenix (me) post ...

http://www.cyprus-forum.com/viewtopic.php?p=249588
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Postby denizaksulu » Tue Mar 03, 2009 4:34 pm

Oracle wrote:
insan wrote:
Oracle wrote:
insan wrote:
Oracle wrote:Shah ...

I don't believe I ever described the Ottomans as a "race". That is just you being a racist again!

There is only one race .... the Human Race and we are all part and parcel of it.

My interests lie in the migratory routes we followed and the cultural identities we nurtured because of the different environmental and climactic conditions we experienced over the last 150,000 years since our mother (Eve) left Africa. And the more recent historical and political delineations we derived as we became self-conscious.

Shah I think we are talking at cross purposes again ... you as a racist; and myself as a socio-linguo-genetico-anthropo-historico-cum-politico-philosophi-psychogeolocentred-ologist-ish!

As for the propaganda accusations and my numerous postings; well that's just you handing in the towel when you have lost to me in debate again 8) ... Thus you can add chief-debater to the end of my job description above ... :lol:


:shock: In :shock: one :shock: night :shock: U :shock: Oracle :shock: evolved :shock: this :shock: much? :shock: :lol:


Yes but that night was 20 years ago, and another story! 8)

..... but I'd love to bring my "memes" up again, but for some reason they seem to make halil and Deniz over-excited :?


No. It is obvious that last night u completed ur intellectual evolution because it is the first time u built a correct analogy between nations and their cultural identities, environmental and climatic conditions, historical and political delineations... :shock:

Before, Turks were ultimate barbarians according to ur Hellenic mentality. No?


See, this is why I brought up memes.

Turks have behaved like barbarians ... that is not up for discussion here, nor has anything that I have said nullified that accusation.

Unfortunately, you seem unable to distinguish between genetic characteristics that we are born with (and can't do much about easily) and the cultural and behavioural characteristics which are mold-able and perfect-able.

Frankly insan, I've tried to have many a discussion along those lines and people just don't "get" the difference ..... and neither do you!

I even had to explain (painfully) to BigAl and Eric Dayi one time, why we as Humans are actually Great Apes and a number of their posts had to be deleted because of the disgusting things they called me for suggesting they were also Great Apes :lol:

Anyway ... I've learned it's best to leave the genes and memes out of all this.



Thats right Oracle. You dare get me excited again :lol:
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Postby insan » Tue Mar 03, 2009 4:43 pm

Oracle wrote:
insan wrote:
Oracle wrote:
insan wrote:
Oracle wrote:Shah ...

I don't believe I ever described the Ottomans as a "race". That is just you being a racist again!

There is only one race .... the Human Race and we are all part and parcel of it.

My interests lie in the migratory routes we followed and the cultural identities we nurtured because of the different environmental and climactic conditions we experienced over the last 150,000 years since our mother (Eve) left Africa. And the more recent historical and political delineations we derived as we became self-conscious.

Shah I think we are talking at cross purposes again ... you as a racist; and myself as a socio-linguo-genetico-anthropo-historico-cum-politico-philosophi-psychogeolocentred-ologist-ish!

As for the propaganda accusations and my numerous postings; well that's just you handing in the towel when you have lost to me in debate again 8) ... Thus you can add chief-debater to the end of my job description above ... :lol:


:shock: In :shock: one :shock: night :shock: U :shock: Oracle :shock: evolved :shock: this :shock: much? :shock: :lol:


Yes but that night was 20 years ago, and another story! 8)

..... but I'd love to bring my "memes" up again, but for some reason they seem to make halil and Deniz over-excited :?


No. It is obvious that last night u completed ur intellectual evolution because it is the first time u built a correct analogy between nations and their cultural identities, environmental and climatic conditions, historical and political delineations... :shock:

Before, Turks were ultimate barbarians according to ur Hellenic mentality. No?


See, this is why I brought up memes.

Turks have behaved like barbarians ... that is not up for discussion here, nor has anything that I have said nullified that accusation.

Unfortunately, you seem unable to distinguish between genetic characteristics that we are born with (and can't do much about easily) and the cultural and behavioural characteristics which are mold-able and perfect-able.

Frankly insan, I've tried to have many a discussion along those lines and people just don't "get" the difference ..... and neither do you!

I even had to explain (painfully) to BigAl and Eric Dayi one time, why we as Humans are actually Great Apes and a number of their posts had to be deleted because of the disgusting things they called me for suggesting they were also Great Apes :lol:

Anyway ... I've learned it's best to leave the genes and memes out of all this.


Yes, not only Turks but all other powerful empires and kingdoms also behaved like barbarians during their expansionist wars. It would be also logical to argue that the most powerful one was the most expansionist thus the one behaved barbaric for a longer time. Still there is a perfect correlation between the historical era, power of the empire, enmity between the empires, passion to be the strongest, rule the world etc but not the so-called genes of barbarism...

http://www.memecentral.com/
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Postby Oracle » Tue Mar 03, 2009 4:59 pm

insan wrote:
Oracle wrote:
insan wrote:
Oracle wrote:
insan wrote:
Oracle wrote:Shah ...

I don't believe I ever described the Ottomans as a "race". That is just you being a racist again!

There is only one race .... the Human Race and we are all part and parcel of it.

My interests lie in the migratory routes we followed and the cultural identities we nurtured because of the different environmental and climactic conditions we experienced over the last 150,000 years since our mother (Eve) left Africa. And the more recent historical and political delineations we derived as we became self-conscious.

Shah I think we are talking at cross purposes again ... you as a racist; and myself as a socio-linguo-genetico-anthropo-historico-cum-politico-philosophi-psychogeolocentred-ologist-ish!

As for the propaganda accusations and my numerous postings; well that's just you handing in the towel when you have lost to me in debate again 8) ... Thus you can add chief-debater to the end of my job description above ... :lol:


:shock: In :shock: one :shock: night :shock: U :shock: Oracle :shock: evolved :shock: this :shock: much? :shock: :lol:


Yes but that night was 20 years ago, and another story! 8)

..... but I'd love to bring my "memes" up again, but for some reason they seem to make halil and Deniz over-excited :?


No. It is obvious that last night u completed ur intellectual evolution because it is the first time u built a correct analogy between nations and their cultural identities, environmental and climatic conditions, historical and political delineations... :shock:

Before, Turks were ultimate barbarians according to ur Hellenic mentality. No?


See, this is why I brought up memes.

Turks have behaved like barbarians ... that is not up for discussion here, nor has anything that I have said nullified that accusation.

Unfortunately, you seem unable to distinguish between genetic characteristics that we are born with (and can't do much about easily) and the cultural and behavioural characteristics which are mold-able and perfect-able.

Frankly insan, I've tried to have many a discussion along those lines and people just don't "get" the difference ..... and neither do you!

I even had to explain (painfully) to BigAl and Eric Dayi one time, why we as Humans are actually Great Apes and a number of their posts had to be deleted because of the disgusting things they called me for suggesting they were also Great Apes :lol:

Anyway ... I've learned it's best to leave the genes and memes out of all this.


Yes, not only Turks but all other powerful empires and kingdoms also behaved like barbarians during their expansionist wars. It would be also logical to argue that the most powerful one was the most expansionist thus the one behaved barbaric for a longer time. Still there is a perfect correlation between the historical era, power of the empire, enmity between the empires, passion to be the strongest, rule the world etc but not the so-called genes of barbarism...

http://www.memecentral.com/


Trouble is insan, most other cultures have given up barbarism, but Turkey lags way behind ... and it has NOTHING to do with genes!
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Postby denizaksulu » Tue Mar 03, 2009 5:04 pm

Oracle wrote:
insan wrote:
Oracle wrote:
insan wrote:
Oracle wrote:
insan wrote:
Oracle wrote:Shah ...

I don't believe I ever described the Ottomans as a "race". That is just you being a racist again!

There is only one race .... the Human Race and we are all part and parcel of it.

My interests lie in the migratory routes we followed and the cultural identities we nurtured because of the different environmental and climactic conditions we experienced over the last 150,000 years since our mother (Eve) left Africa. And the more recent historical and political delineations we derived as we became self-conscious.

Shah I think we are talking at cross purposes again ... you as a racist; and myself as a socio-linguo-genetico-anthropo-historico-cum-politico-philosophi-psychogeolocentred-ologist-ish!

As for the propaganda accusations and my numerous postings; well that's just you handing in the towel when you have lost to me in debate again 8) ... Thus you can add chief-debater to the end of my job description above ... :lol:


:shock: In :shock: one :shock: night :shock: U :shock: Oracle :shock: evolved :shock: this :shock: much? :shock: :lol:


Yes but that night was 20 years ago, and another story! 8)

..... but I'd love to bring my "memes" up again, but for some reason they seem to make halil and Deniz over-excited :?


No. It is obvious that last night u completed ur intellectual evolution because it is the first time u built a correct analogy between nations and their cultural identities, environmental and climatic conditions, historical and political delineations... :shock:

Before, Turks were ultimate barbarians according to ur Hellenic mentality. No?


See, this is why I brought up memes.

Turks have behaved like barbarians ... that is not up for discussion here, nor has anything that I have said nullified that accusation.

Unfortunately, you seem unable to distinguish between genetic characteristics that we are born with (and can't do much about easily) and the cultural and behavioural characteristics which are mold-able and perfect-able.

Frankly insan, I've tried to have many a discussion along those lines and people just don't "get" the difference ..... and neither do you!

I even had to explain (painfully) to BigAl and Eric Dayi one time, why we as Humans are actually Great Apes and a number of their posts had to be deleted because of the disgusting things they called me for suggesting they were also Great Apes :lol:

Anyway ... I've learned it's best to leave the genes and memes out of all this.


Yes, not only Turks but all other powerful empires and kingdoms also behaved like barbarians during their expansionist wars. It would be also logical to argue that the most powerful one was the most expansionist thus the one behaved barbaric for a longer time. Still there is a perfect correlation between the historical era, power of the empire, enmity between the empires, passion to be the strongest, rule the world etc but not the so-called genes of barbarism...

http://www.memecentral.com/


Trouble is insan, most other cultures have given up barbarism, but Turkey lags way behind ... and it has NOTHING to do with genes!



Perhaps its your Memes that are the real problem. :?
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Postby Oracle » Tue Mar 03, 2009 5:22 pm

denizaksulu wrote:
Oracle wrote:
insan wrote:
Oracle wrote:
insan wrote:
Oracle wrote:
insan wrote:
Oracle wrote:Shah ...

I don't believe I ever described the Ottomans as a "race". That is just you being a racist again!

There is only one race .... the Human Race and we are all part and parcel of it.

My interests lie in the migratory routes we followed and the cultural identities we nurtured because of the different environmental and climactic conditions we experienced over the last 150,000 years since our mother (Eve) left Africa. And the more recent historical and political delineations we derived as we became self-conscious.

Shah I think we are talking at cross purposes again ... you as a racist; and myself as a socio-linguo-genetico-anthropo-historico-cum-politico-philosophi-psychogeolocentred-ologist-ish!

As for the propaganda accusations and my numerous postings; well that's just you handing in the towel when you have lost to me in debate again 8) ... Thus you can add chief-debater to the end of my job description above ... :lol:


:shock: In :shock: one :shock: night :shock: U :shock: Oracle :shock: evolved :shock: this :shock: much? :shock: :lol:


Yes but that night was 20 years ago, and another story! 8)

..... but I'd love to bring my "memes" up again, but for some reason they seem to make halil and Deniz over-excited :?


No. It is obvious that last night u completed ur intellectual evolution because it is the first time u built a correct analogy between nations and their cultural identities, environmental and climatic conditions, historical and political delineations... :shock:

Before, Turks were ultimate barbarians according to ur Hellenic mentality. No?


See, this is why I brought up memes.

Turks have behaved like barbarians ... that is not up for discussion here, nor has anything that I have said nullified that accusation.

Unfortunately, you seem unable to distinguish between genetic characteristics that we are born with (and can't do much about easily) and the cultural and behavioural characteristics which are mold-able and perfect-able.

Frankly insan, I've tried to have many a discussion along those lines and people just don't "get" the difference ..... and neither do you!

I even had to explain (painfully) to BigAl and Eric Dayi one time, why we as Humans are actually Great Apes and a number of their posts had to be deleted because of the disgusting things they called me for suggesting they were also Great Apes :lol:

Anyway ... I've learned it's best to leave the genes and memes out of all this.


Yes, not only Turks but all other powerful empires and kingdoms also behaved like barbarians during their expansionist wars. It would be also logical to argue that the most powerful one was the most expansionist thus the one behaved barbaric for a longer time. Still there is a perfect correlation between the historical era, power of the empire, enmity between the empires, passion to be the strongest, rule the world etc but not the so-called genes of barbarism...

http://www.memecentral.com/


Trouble is insan, most other cultures have given up barbarism, but Turkey lags way behind ... and it has NOTHING to do with genes!



Perhaps its your Memes that are the real problem. :?


I agree it is a matter of perspective. Our memes don't see invasion of others' territories as acceptable.
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