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Kurdish 'grave sites' to be dug

By Sarah Rainsford
BBC News, Istanbul : 27 February 2009

A Turkish prosecutor has ordered the digging up of several sites where it is believed the bodies of Kurds killed in the 1990s may have been dumped.

Hundreds of people disappeared at the height of the fighting in the mainly Kurdish south-east.

Human rights lawyers say many were last seen with security forces members.

The Kurdish conflict, which began in the 1980s when insurgents started fighting for a separate Kurdish state, still continues today.

Close to 40,000 people have been killed.

More than 70 families applied to a prosecutor in the town of Silopi after information emerged suggesting the location of their relatives' bodies.

The prosecutor has ordered the excavation of two old well-shafts behind an abandoned roadside restaurant.

Another site to be dug is on the grounds of a storage facility of the Botash oil company.

Human rights lawyers also want to examine parts of a municipal cemetery where they believe a mass grave of the missing could be found.

Missing politicians

Hundreds of Kurdish civilians have been missing, presumed dead, since the height of the Kurdish conflict in the region in the mid-1990s.

Lawyers began pushing for permission to dig certain sites after a former security officer, now in hiding abroad, gave information about the torture and execution of Kurdish civilians.

They were also boosted by the unprecedented arrest of military members, retired and active, in connection with an alleged plot to topple the government.

Several of the men now in custody were in command in the Kurdish conflict region in the 1990s.

The lawyers argue prosecutors should broaden the scope of that coup trial to include a full investigation of the alleged crimes against the Kurds.

Most recently two politicians disappeared in 2001 after they were called for questioning at the local headquarters of the military police.

In that case and others the European Court of Human Rights found Turkey guilty of violating the right to life, but here in Turkey itself the families of the missing have never found justice - or the bodies of their relatives.



Old habits die hard ....

[paliometoxo]

simply because they are kurds and speak kurdish and not turkish in public or their race..

only difference kurds dont have a mumma anyone to come invade and split turkey in two

[insan]

Simply because some Hellenic idiot groups provoke them for a so-called common cause.

[paliometoxo]

simply because turkish planted a bomb for the tcs for their "common cause"

[insan]

simply because turkish planted a bomb for the tcs for their "common cause"

irrelevant.

[paliometoxo]

it is very relevant.. turkey does the very same things it accuses greece/cyprus of doing yet for them to do it they dont care and its acceptable because kurds are the minority and dont speak their language so they deserve to die.. and they cry to the world that gcs did this and that to us simply because we are TURKISH

so yes it is relevant... turkey are hypocrits and so full of crap

[paliometoxo]

doing or having done in the past for an excuse for their invasion

[insan]

it is very relevant.. turkey does the very same things it accuses greece/cyprus of doing yet for them to do it they dont care and its acceptable because kurds are the minority and dont speak their language so they deserve to die.. and they cry to the world that gcs did this and that to us simply because we are TURKISH

so yes it is relevant... turkey are hypocrits and so full of crap

Palio, i fed up telling u that Turks and Kurds fought together against the enemies for a common cause to establish a common homeland for themselves. Turks and Kurds not only fought together for Turkey but even in Iran they fought together to establish an autonomous government in 1946.

The abdication of Reza Shah in 1941 brought some relaxation of coercive assimilation though Persianisation was continued by Mohammed Reza Shah (1941-79). The Kurds were now considered to be "true-born (asil) Aryans," although their language was called a "dialect" in all official pronouncements. Under the favourable conditions of the post-World War 11 years, the Kurds and Turks of north-western Iran established their own autonomous republics in 1946 and made Kurdish and Turkish official languages of their states.

http://www.cogsci.ed.ac.uk/~siamakr/Kur ... olicy.html

There was no enmity between Turks and Kurds till some Hellenic and Armenian idiots provoked Kurds of Turkey.

In Cyprus the situation is completely different. The problem between 2 communities appeared long before the establishment of RoT. Even Ataturk was just 8 y.o when first signs of conflict erupted between TCs and GCs.

[repulsewarrior]

...the age of Nationalism preceded this time (around WWI). Ataturk had as his 'mentor', Napolean III, it's Founder.

indeed these men unified their countries by reaching accord with the diversity of their People as Individuals, as Persons self sustaining with common Principals, and goals. this Patrimony, enriched by free Association, Expression, and Movement should be our goal. others like Ghandi, and Martin Luther King have shown us this Truth as well.

no need to snicker about the horrible facts....
if enough brave men in Turkey say, i did this, or
i saw that, it is wrong, then
maybe a "Greek" will have the courage as well.

In any case, these acts change the world.

[paliometoxo]

it is very relevant.. turkey does the very same things it accuses greece/cyprus of doing yet for them to do it they dont care and its acceptable because kurds are the minority and dont speak their language so they deserve to die.. and they cry to the world that gcs did this and that to us simply because we are TURKISH

so yes it is relevant... turkey are hypocrits and so full of crap

Palio, i fed up telling u that Turks and Kurds fought together against the enemies for a common cause to establish a common homeland for themselves. Turks and Kurds not only fought together for Turkey but even in Iran they fought together to establish an autonomous government in 1946.

The abdication of Reza Shah in 1941 brought some relaxation of coercive assimilation though Persianisation was continued by Mohammed Reza Shah (1941-79). The Kurds were now considered to be "true-born (asil) Aryans," although their language was called a "dialect" in all official pronouncements. Under the favourable conditions of the post-World War 11 years, the Kurds and Turks of north-western Iran established their own autonomous republics in 1946 and made Kurdish and Turkish official languages of their states.

http://www.cogsci.ed.ac.uk/~siamakr/Kur ... olicy.html

There was no enmity between Turks and Kurds till some Hellenic and Armenian idiots provoked Kurds of Turkey.

In Cyprus the situation is completely different. The problem between 2 communities appeared long before the establishment of RoT. Even Ataturk was just 8 y.o when first signs of conflict erupted between TCs and GCs.

i fail to see what part of turks opressing the kurds not allowing them to speak kurdish in public basically tresating them like dogs means "fighting together for ROT"????