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Postby insan » Sun Mar 01, 2009 6:14 pm

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Oracle wrote:So insan ..... You choose to ignore how Turkey historically reneged on the Kurd's right to their own territory from the start of the last century, substantiated not just by Kikapu's and my sources, but most poignantly by the link you accidentally posted yourself.

You ignore the wealth of rational evidence, and instead resort to throwing around ridiculous propaganda maps and assertions, that should another country, 90 years later, help one political asylum seaker, they (Greece) are in fact the root cause of the Kurd's dissatisfaction with Turkey, and not Turkey itself, despite its many policies to silence the Kurds. .. including the killings to which the present-day thread, of BBC news, refers to.

My, my! You are one delusional Giga Turkish Nationalist ....


The link I provided tells about the nation building process of Ataturk and his successors. In this process; the biggest trouble Ataturk and his successors came across is the fundamentalist religios groups' opposition to secularism principle of the RoT.

The second obstacle in front of the nation building process of Turkey has been her old enemies that defeated by Turkish people under the leadership of Ataturk. Some ideological interest groups of the defeated nations kept undermining RoT during it's nation building process, democratization process and economical development.

I acknowledge that during the nation building process of Turkey, there have been some mistakes and misbehaviors by some government officials but trying to abuse these events for your propaganda needs(It is too obvious) and self-satisfaction only reveals how pathetic u r.

U use every opportunity to verbally attack to Turks and belittle them. In this thread, I showed u that almost same mistakes and misbehaviors have been done by Greeks towards Turkish minority of Greece, Macedonians and Albaninas. In Iran almost same mistakes and misbehaviors have been done by Iranians towards Kurds and Turks.

Ignoring all and trying to portray Turks as the most evil nation of the world only means 1 thing to me and that is how brainwashed, ignorant, pathetic you are.


So whats wrong with Cyprus making a few mistakes with its minorities?


Cyprus(governments of both sides) should exert to fulfil it's lawful duties towards the minorities. For example in TRNC, rights of Maronite minority getting better day by day.
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Postby DT. » Sun Mar 01, 2009 6:15 pm

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Oracle wrote:So insan ..... You choose to ignore how Turkey historically reneged on the Kurd's right to their own territory from the start of the last century, substantiated not just by Kikapu's and my sources, but most poignantly by the link you accidentally posted yourself.

You ignore the wealth of rational evidence, and instead resort to throwing around ridiculous propaganda maps and assertions, that should another country, 90 years later, help one political asylum seaker, they (Greece) are in fact the root cause of the Kurd's dissatisfaction with Turkey, and not Turkey itself, despite its many policies to silence the Kurds. .. including the killings to which the present-day thread, of BBC news, refers to.

My, my! You are one delusional Giga Turkish Nationalist ....


The link I provided tells about the nation building process of Ataturk and his successors. In this process; the biggest trouble Ataturk and his successors came across is the fundamentalist religios groups' opposition to secularism principle of the RoT.

The second obstacle in front of the nation building process of Turkey has been her old enemies that defeated by Turkish people under the leadership of Ataturk. Some ideological interest groups of the defeated nations kept undermining RoT during it's nation building process, democratization process and economical development.

I acknowledge that during the nation building process of Turkey, there have been some mistakes and misbehaviors by some government officials but trying to abuse these events for your propaganda needs(It is too obvious) and self-satisfaction only reveals how pathetic u r.

U use every opportunity to verbally attack to Turks and belittle them. In this thread, I showed u that almost same mistakes and misbehaviors have been done by Greeks towards Turkish minority of Greece, Macedonians and Albaninas. In Iran almost same mistakes and misbehaviors have been done by Iranians towards Kurds and Turks.

Ignoring all and trying to portray Turks as the most evil nation of the world only means 1 thing to me and that is how brainwashed, ignorant, pathetic you are.


So whats wrong with Cyprus making a few mistakes with its minorities?


Cyprus(governments of both sides) should exert to fulfil it's lawful duties towards the minorities. For example in TRNC, rights of Maronite minority getting better day by day.


I was talking about Cyprus's troubles with its turkish minority in the 60's.
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Postby insan » Sun Mar 01, 2009 6:19 pm

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DT. wrote:
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Oracle wrote:So insan ..... You choose to ignore how Turkey historically reneged on the Kurd's right to their own territory from the start of the last century, substantiated not just by Kikapu's and my sources, but most poignantly by the link you accidentally posted yourself.

You ignore the wealth of rational evidence, and instead resort to throwing around ridiculous propaganda maps and assertions, that should another country, 90 years later, help one political asylum seaker, they (Greece) are in fact the root cause of the Kurd's dissatisfaction with Turkey, and not Turkey itself, despite its many policies to silence the Kurds. .. including the killings to which the present-day thread, of BBC news, refers to.

My, my! You are one delusional Giga Turkish Nationalist ....


The link I provided tells about the nation building process of Ataturk and his successors. In this process; the biggest trouble Ataturk and his successors came across is the fundamentalist religios groups' opposition to secularism principle of the RoT.

The second obstacle in front of the nation building process of Turkey has been her old enemies that defeated by Turkish people under the leadership of Ataturk. Some ideological interest groups of the defeated nations kept undermining RoT during it's nation building process, democratization process and economical development.

I acknowledge that during the nation building process of Turkey, there have been some mistakes and misbehaviors by some government officials but trying to abuse these events for your propaganda needs(It is too obvious) and self-satisfaction only reveals how pathetic u r.

U use every opportunity to verbally attack to Turks and belittle them. In this thread, I showed u that almost same mistakes and misbehaviors have been done by Greeks towards Turkish minority of Greece, Macedonians and Albaninas. In Iran almost same mistakes and misbehaviors have been done by Iranians towards Kurds and Turks.

Ignoring all and trying to portray Turks as the most evil nation of the world only means 1 thing to me and that is how brainwashed, ignorant, pathetic you are.


So whats wrong with Cyprus making a few mistakes with its minorities?


Cyprus(governments of both sides) should exert to fulfil it's lawful duties towards the minorities. For example in TRNC, rights of Maronite minority getting better day by day.


I was talking about Cyprus's troubles with its turkish minority in the 60's.


Turkish minority? I have never heard such a minority in Cyprus. :lol:
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Postby DT. » Sun Mar 01, 2009 6:22 pm

insan wrote:
DT. wrote:
insan wrote:
DT. wrote:
insan wrote:
Oracle wrote:So insan ..... You choose to ignore how Turkey historically reneged on the Kurd's right to their own territory from the start of the last century, substantiated not just by Kikapu's and my sources, but most poignantly by the link you accidentally posted yourself.

You ignore the wealth of rational evidence, and instead resort to throwing around ridiculous propaganda maps and assertions, that should another country, 90 years later, help one political asylum seaker, they (Greece) are in fact the root cause of the Kurd's dissatisfaction with Turkey, and not Turkey itself, despite its many policies to silence the Kurds. .. including the killings to which the present-day thread, of BBC news, refers to.

My, my! You are one delusional Giga Turkish Nationalist ....


The link I provided tells about the nation building process of Ataturk and his successors. In this process; the biggest trouble Ataturk and his successors came across is the fundamentalist religios groups' opposition to secularism principle of the RoT.

The second obstacle in front of the nation building process of Turkey has been her old enemies that defeated by Turkish people under the leadership of Ataturk. Some ideological interest groups of the defeated nations kept undermining RoT during it's nation building process, democratization process and economical development.

I acknowledge that during the nation building process of Turkey, there have been some mistakes and misbehaviors by some government officials but trying to abuse these events for your propaganda needs(It is too obvious) and self-satisfaction only reveals how pathetic u r.

U use every opportunity to verbally attack to Turks and belittle them. In this thread, I showed u that almost same mistakes and misbehaviors have been done by Greeks towards Turkish minority of Greece, Macedonians and Albaninas. In Iran almost same mistakes and misbehaviors have been done by Iranians towards Kurds and Turks.

Ignoring all and trying to portray Turks as the most evil nation of the world only means 1 thing to me and that is how brainwashed, ignorant, pathetic you are.


So whats wrong with Cyprus making a few mistakes with its minorities?


Cyprus(governments of both sides) should exert to fulfil it's lawful duties towards the minorities. For example in TRNC, rights of Maronite minority getting better day by day.


I was talking about Cyprus's troubles with its turkish minority in the 60's.


Turkish minority? I have never heard such a minority in Cyprus. :lol:


:roll: hello! Its one of our most significant minorities here in Cyprus!
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Postby insan » Sun Mar 01, 2009 6:26 pm

DT. wrote:
insan wrote:
DT. wrote:
insan wrote:
DT. wrote:
insan wrote:
Oracle wrote:So insan ..... You choose to ignore how Turkey historically reneged on the Kurd's right to their own territory from the start of the last century, substantiated not just by Kikapu's and my sources, but most poignantly by the link you accidentally posted yourself.

You ignore the wealth of rational evidence, and instead resort to throwing around ridiculous propaganda maps and assertions, that should another country, 90 years later, help one political asylum seaker, they (Greece) are in fact the root cause of the Kurd's dissatisfaction with Turkey, and not Turkey itself, despite its many policies to silence the Kurds. .. including the killings to which the present-day thread, of BBC news, refers to.

My, my! You are one delusional Giga Turkish Nationalist ....


The link I provided tells about the nation building process of Ataturk and his successors. In this process; the biggest trouble Ataturk and his successors came across is the fundamentalist religios groups' opposition to secularism principle of the RoT.

The second obstacle in front of the nation building process of Turkey has been her old enemies that defeated by Turkish people under the leadership of Ataturk. Some ideological interest groups of the defeated nations kept undermining RoT during it's nation building process, democratization process and economical development.

I acknowledge that during the nation building process of Turkey, there have been some mistakes and misbehaviors by some government officials but trying to abuse these events for your propaganda needs(It is too obvious) and self-satisfaction only reveals how pathetic u r.

U use every opportunity to verbally attack to Turks and belittle them. In this thread, I showed u that almost same mistakes and misbehaviors have been done by Greeks towards Turkish minority of Greece, Macedonians and Albaninas. In Iran almost same mistakes and misbehaviors have been done by Iranians towards Kurds and Turks.

Ignoring all and trying to portray Turks as the most evil nation of the world only means 1 thing to me and that is how brainwashed, ignorant, pathetic you are.


So whats wrong with Cyprus making a few mistakes with its minorities?


Cyprus(governments of both sides) should exert to fulfil it's lawful duties towards the minorities. For example in TRNC, rights of Maronite minority getting better day by day.


I was talking about Cyprus's troubles with its turkish minority in the 60's.


Turkish minority? I have never heard such a minority in Cyprus. :lol:


:roll: hello! Its one of our most significant minorities here in Cyprus!


We have never been a minority in Cyprus. If u still consider TC community as a Turkish minority; u r wasting ur time.
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Postby DT. » Sun Mar 01, 2009 6:32 pm

insan wrote:
DT. wrote:
insan wrote:
DT. wrote:
insan wrote:
DT. wrote:
insan wrote:
Oracle wrote:So insan ..... You choose to ignore how Turkey historically reneged on the Kurd's right to their own territory from the start of the last century, substantiated not just by Kikapu's and my sources, but most poignantly by the link you accidentally posted yourself.

You ignore the wealth of rational evidence, and instead resort to throwing around ridiculous propaganda maps and assertions, that should another country, 90 years later, help one political asylum seaker, they (Greece) are in fact the root cause of the Kurd's dissatisfaction with Turkey, and not Turkey itself, despite its many policies to silence the Kurds. .. including the killings to which the present-day thread, of BBC news, refers to.

My, my! You are one delusional Giga Turkish Nationalist ....


The link I provided tells about the nation building process of Ataturk and his successors. In this process; the biggest trouble Ataturk and his successors came across is the fundamentalist religios groups' opposition to secularism principle of the RoT.

The second obstacle in front of the nation building process of Turkey has been her old enemies that defeated by Turkish people under the leadership of Ataturk. Some ideological interest groups of the defeated nations kept undermining RoT during it's nation building process, democratization process and economical development.

I acknowledge that during the nation building process of Turkey, there have been some mistakes and misbehaviors by some government officials but trying to abuse these events for your propaganda needs(It is too obvious) and self-satisfaction only reveals how pathetic u r.

U use every opportunity to verbally attack to Turks and belittle them. In this thread, I showed u that almost same mistakes and misbehaviors have been done by Greeks towards Turkish minority of Greece, Macedonians and Albaninas. In Iran almost same mistakes and misbehaviors have been done by Iranians towards Kurds and Turks.

Ignoring all and trying to portray Turks as the most evil nation of the world only means 1 thing to me and that is how brainwashed, ignorant, pathetic you are.


So whats wrong with Cyprus making a few mistakes with its minorities?


Cyprus(governments of both sides) should exert to fulfil it's lawful duties towards the minorities. For example in TRNC, rights of Maronite minority getting better day by day.


I was talking about Cyprus's troubles with its turkish minority in the 60's.


Turkish minority? I have never heard such a minority in Cyprus. :lol:


:roll: hello! Its one of our most significant minorities here in Cyprus!


We have never been a minority in Cyprus. If u still consider TC community as a Turkish minority; u r wasting ur time.


:lol: don't be silly. Off course you're a minority what else do you call 18% of the population? :roll:

Off course now you're not as significant a minority as you were in the past. The islands most important minority right now seems to be the turkish settlers. You guys seem to come 3rd in population size.
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Postby insan » Sun Mar 01, 2009 6:35 pm

DT. wrote:
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DT. wrote:
insan wrote:
DT. wrote:
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DT. wrote:
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Oracle wrote:So insan ..... You choose to ignore how Turkey historically reneged on the Kurd's right to their own territory from the start of the last century, substantiated not just by Kikapu's and my sources, but most poignantly by the link you accidentally posted yourself.

You ignore the wealth of rational evidence, and instead resort to throwing around ridiculous propaganda maps and assertions, that should another country, 90 years later, help one political asylum seaker, they (Greece) are in fact the root cause of the Kurd's dissatisfaction with Turkey, and not Turkey itself, despite its many policies to silence the Kurds. .. including the killings to which the present-day thread, of BBC news, refers to.

My, my! You are one delusional Giga Turkish Nationalist ....


The link I provided tells about the nation building process of Ataturk and his successors. In this process; the biggest trouble Ataturk and his successors came across is the fundamentalist religios groups' opposition to secularism principle of the RoT.

The second obstacle in front of the nation building process of Turkey has been her old enemies that defeated by Turkish people under the leadership of Ataturk. Some ideological interest groups of the defeated nations kept undermining RoT during it's nation building process, democratization process and economical development.

I acknowledge that during the nation building process of Turkey, there have been some mistakes and misbehaviors by some government officials but trying to abuse these events for your propaganda needs(It is too obvious) and self-satisfaction only reveals how pathetic u r.

U use every opportunity to verbally attack to Turks and belittle them. In this thread, I showed u that almost same mistakes and misbehaviors have been done by Greeks towards Turkish minority of Greece, Macedonians and Albaninas. In Iran almost same mistakes and misbehaviors have been done by Iranians towards Kurds and Turks.

Ignoring all and trying to portray Turks as the most evil nation of the world only means 1 thing to me and that is how brainwashed, ignorant, pathetic you are.


So whats wrong with Cyprus making a few mistakes with its minorities?


Cyprus(governments of both sides) should exert to fulfil it's lawful duties towards the minorities. For example in TRNC, rights of Maronite minority getting better day by day.


I was talking about Cyprus's troubles with its turkish minority in the 60's.


Turkish minority? I have never heard such a minority in Cyprus. :lol:


:roll: hello! Its one of our most significant minorities here in Cyprus!


We have never been a minority in Cyprus. If u still consider TC community as a Turkish minority; u r wasting ur time.


:lol: don't be silly. Off course you're a minority what else do you call 18% of the population? :roll:

Off course now you're not as significant a minority as you were in the past. The islands most important minority right now seems to be the turkish settlers. You guys seem to come 3rd in population size.


It's your misinterpretation.
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Postby Oracle » Sun Mar 01, 2009 10:49 pm

Insan .... it is really sad when one witnesses a failure, by another, to see where they are going wrong.

You complain about Greeks, when the article is sounding off about the 40,000 Kurds killed by Turks.

You are excusing Turkey for not being quite democratised yet ... but they have had 90 years to prepare!

What more excuses?

Why don't you just acknowledge you are so way behind the times that it will take 3 Centuries more, for Turkey to reach where Europe is now!

I am not the problem, but Turkey pissing off its neighbours is!
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Postby insan » Sun Mar 01, 2009 10:58 pm

Oracle wrote:Insan .... it is really sad when one witnesses a failure, by another, to see where they are going wrong.

You complain about Greeks, when the article is sounding off about the 40,000 Kurds killed by Turks.

You are excusing Turkey for not being quite democratised yet ... but they have had 90 years to prepare!

What more excuses?

Why don't you just acknowledge you are so way behind the times that it will take 3 Centuries more, for Turkey to reach where Europe is now!

I am not the problem, but Turkey pissing off its neighbours is!


I didn't excuse Turkey for the killings of 40.000 PKK terrorists and their supporters. I tried to mention that human rights violations exist in Turkey because she is not a fully democratized country yet. Even in supposedly democratized Greece which has been in EU for 28 years almost same or similar human rights violations still goes on.

First of all have a look at Greece's, Romania's and Polland's human rights records and discover the truth abt the double standards of Christian Democrats.

The hatred covered ur brain, heart and soul will never let u to see the truths.
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Postby paliometoxo » Sun Mar 01, 2009 11:05 pm

so now they are terrorists because they stood up to turkey for their rights.
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