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[insan]

it is very relevant.. turkey does the very same things it accuses greece/cyprus of doing yet for them to do it they dont care and its acceptable because kurds are the minority and dont speak their language so they deserve to die.. and they cry to the world that gcs did this and that to us simply because we are TURKISH

so yes it is relevant... turkey are hypocrits and so full of crap

Palio, i fed up telling u that Turks and Kurds fought together against the enemies for a common cause to establish a common homeland for themselves. Turks and Kurds not only fought together for Turkey but even in Iran they fought together to establish an autonomous government in 1946.

The abdication of Reza Shah in 1941 brought some relaxation of coercive assimilation though Persianisation was continued by Mohammed Reza Shah (1941-79). The Kurds were now considered to be "true-born (asil) Aryans," although their language was called a "dialect" in all official pronouncements. Under the favourable conditions of the post-World War 11 years, the Kurds and Turks of north-western Iran established their own autonomous republics in 1946 and made Kurdish and Turkish official languages of their states.

http://www.cogsci.ed.ac.uk/~siamakr/Kur ... olicy.html

There was no enmity between Turks and Kurds till some Hellenic and Armenian idiots provoked Kurds of Turkey.

In Cyprus the situation is completely different. The problem between 2 communities appeared long before the establishment of RoT. Even Ataturk was just 8 y.o when first signs of conflict erupted between TCs and GCs.

i fail to see what part of turks opressing the kurds not allowing them to speak kurdish in public basically tresating them like dogs means "fighting together for ROT"????

U need to read a lot abt common history of Turks and Kurds, Palio.

[paliometoxo]

so why are the kurdish fighting so hard for their own state? because the turks treat them like gods?

[repulsewarrior]

Turkey today is not the world of Ataturk. It is in a State of Crisis because the Kemalist State which replaced him cannot change with reforms which continue this Revolution. As dogmatic as the Ottomans were, they risk the same stagnation.

We wish the Turkish Prosecutor godspeed in his convictions, and success: so that the silence of
these tens of thousands have been heard.

[Get Real!]

it is very relevant.. turkey does the very same things it accuses greece/cyprus of doing yet for them to do it they dont care and its acceptable because kurds are the minority and dont speak their language so they deserve to die.. and they cry to the world that gcs did this and that to us simply because we are TURKISH

so yes it is relevant... turkey are hypocrits and so full of crap

Palio, i fed up telling u that Turks and Kurds fought together against the enemies for a common cause to establish a common homeland for themselves. Turks and Kurds not only fought together for Turkey but even in Iran they fought together to establish an autonomous government in 1946.

The abdication of Reza Shah in 1941 brought some relaxation of coercive assimilation though Persianisation was continued by Mohammed Reza Shah (1941-79). The Kurds were now considered to be "true-born (asil) Aryans," although their language was called a "dialect" in all official pronouncements. Under the favourable conditions of the post-World War 11 years, the Kurds and Turks of north-western Iran established their own autonomous republics in 1946 and made Kurdish and Turkish official languages of their states.

http://www.cogsci.ed.ac.uk/~siamakr/Kur ... olicy.html

There was no enmity between Turks and Kurds till some Hellenic and Armenian idiots provoked Kurds of Turkey.

In Cyprus the situation is completely different. The problem between 2 communities appeared long before the establishment of RoT. Even Ataturk was just 8 y.o when first signs of conflict erupted between TCs and GCs.

A quick search reveals the following Kurdish rebellions in Turkey…

Koçkiri Rebellion of 1920

Sheikh Said rebellion of 1925.

Ağrı rebellion of 1930

Dersim rebellion of 1937

[insan]

it is very relevant.. turkey does the very same things it accuses greece/cyprus of doing yet for them to do it they dont care and its acceptable because kurds are the minority and dont speak their language so they deserve to die.. and they cry to the world that gcs did this and that to us simply because we are TURKISH

so yes it is relevant... turkey are hypocrits and so full of crap

Palio, i fed up telling u that Turks and Kurds fought together against the enemies for a common cause to establish a common homeland for themselves. Turks and Kurds not only fought together for Turkey but even in Iran they fought together to establish an autonomous government in 1946.

The abdication of Reza Shah in 1941 brought some relaxation of coercive assimilation though Persianisation was continued by Mohammed Reza Shah (1941-79). The Kurds were now considered to be "true-born (asil) Aryans," although their language was called a "dialect" in all official pronouncements. Under the favourable conditions of the post-World War 11 years, the Kurds and Turks of north-western Iran established their own autonomous republics in 1946 and made Kurdish and Turkish official languages of their states.

http://www.cogsci.ed.ac.uk/~siamakr/Kur ... olicy.html

There was no enmity between Turks and Kurds till some Hellenic and Armenian idiots provoked Kurds of Turkey.

In Cyprus the situation is completely different. The problem between 2 communities appeared long before the establishment of RoT. Even Ataturk was just 8 y.o when first signs of conflict erupted between TCs and GCs.

A quick search reveals the following Kurdish rebellions in Turkey…

Koçkiri Rebellion of 1920

Sheikh Said rebellion of 1925.

Ağrı rebellion of 1930

Dersim rebellion of 1937

All those rebellions was religious originated. Those fundamental religous Kurdish groups rebelled against secularism principle of RoT. They have nothing to do with the so-called Kurdish problem that was created by some idiot Hellenic and Armenian political interest groups, afterwards 80s.

[repulsewarrior]

it is very relevant.. turkey does the very same things it accuses greece/cyprus of doing yet for them to do it they dont care and its acceptable because kurds are the minority and dont speak their language so they deserve to die.. and they cry to the world that gcs did this and that to us simply because we are TURKISH

so yes it is relevant... turkey are hypocrits and so full of crap

Palio, i fed up telling u that Turks and Kurds fought together against the enemies for a common cause to establish a common homeland for themselves. Turks and Kurds not only fought together for Turkey but even in Iran they fought together to establish an autonomous government in 1946.

The abdication of Reza Shah in 1941 brought some relaxation of coercive assimilation though Persianisation was continued by Mohammed Reza Shah (1941-79). The Kurds were now considered to be "true-born (asil) Aryans," although their language was called a "dialect" in all official pronouncements. Under the favourable conditions of the post-World War 11 years, the Kurds and Turks of north-western Iran established their own autonomous republics in 1946 and made Kurdish and Turkish official languages of their states.

http://www.cogsci.ed.ac.uk/~siamakr/Kur ... olicy.html

There was no enmity between Turks and Kurds till some Hellenic and Armenian idiots provoked Kurds of Turkey.

In Cyprus the situation is completely different. The problem between 2 communities appeared long before the establishment of RoT. Even Ataturk was just 8 y.o when first signs of conflict erupted between TCs and GCs.

i fail to see what part of turks opressing the kurds not allowing them to speak kurdish in public basically tresating them like dogs means "fighting together for ROT"????

if we are talking history, one thing is clear: violence and opression are a cause.

,,,people who beat up on Ataturk because there are Kemalists don't get the big picture about our lives: as Persons, and as well united as Individuals.

Thus: for Cyprus to demonstrate qualities of Bicommunality, it is important to the greater region and to Mankind, beyond the plunder which seems to thrive today, that we this island's dwellers, can as Cypriots, provide for a greater diversity of culture within (and for) a plurality of Communities (Nationality) as well.

[Kikapu]

Insan,

Since you defend Turkey at every which way and turn, can you tell us, if you can or willing to, has Turkey ever done anything wrong since becoming a Republic in 1923, and if so, could you please list them and if not, just say "none".?

[insan]

Insan,

Since you defend Turkey at every which way and turn, can you tell us, if you can or willing to, has Turkey ever done anything wrong since becoming a Republic in 1923, and if so, could you please list them and if not, just say "none".?

I have never denied the human rights violations in Turkey. The human rights violations in Turkey is not particularly towards Kurds. I've always emphasized that Turkey hasn't been a fully democratized country, yet. Turkey has too many problems because of it's historical background and where she is located.

[Oracle]

Palio, i fed up telling u that Turks and Kurds fought together against the enemies for a common cause to establish a common homeland for themselves.

Insan you proudly and repeatedly remind us that the Kurds once helped Turkey to found the RoT.

And how were they rewarded for this friendship?

After the Kurds helped the Turks win the war (1919-1922), the Turks rounded up and hanged the Kurdish leaders. Then they suppressed the uprisings. Banned the language, newspapers, schools, etc. Banned the Kurdish festivals and celebrations, etc. Declared the Kurds "Mountain Turks", hoping this lie would stick and cover the crime in the fullness of time. The Constitution of the new republic made clear that "Turkey, the land of the Turks cannot be divided". And so the Kurds were cheated of what they had been promised.

What had the Kurds been promised that Turkey reneged and back-stabbed them about?

What is it that they still do not have, which is rightfully theirs!

Keep reminding the world of the friendship shown by the Kurds to the Turks, and how Turkey back-stabbed them with one of the most blatant lies of history!

[insan]

Palio, i fed up telling u that Turks and Kurds fought together against the enemies for a common cause to establish a common homeland for themselves.

Insan you proudly and repeatedly remind us that the Kurds once helped Turkey to found the RoT.

And how were they rewarded for this friendship?

After the Kurds helped the Turks win the war (1919-1922), the Turks rounded up and hanged the Kurdish leaders. Then they suppressed the uprisings. Banned the language, newspapers, schools, etc. Banned the Kurdish festivals and celebrations, etc. Declared the Kurds "Mountain Turks", hoping this lie would stick and cover the crime in the fullness of time. The Constitution of the new republic made clear that "Turkey, the land of the Turks cannot be divided". And so the Kurds were cheated of what they had been promised.

What had the Kurds been promised that Turkey reneged and back-stabbed them about?

What is it that they still do not have, which is rightfully theirs!

Keep reminding the world of the friendship shown by the Kurds to the Turks, and how Turkey back-stabbed them with one of the most blatant lies of history!

Come with credible sources abt the so-called incident of 1919 and onwards. Then we might discuss abt it.