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Turkish side ‘leaks’ Greek Cypriot positions

Postby brother » Fri Jun 03, 2005 11:45 am

Turkish side ‘leaks’ Greek Cypriot positions


ALLEGED Greek Cypriot positions on a solution to Cyprus problem were ‘leaked’ and yesterday published on the website of NTV (Turkish Television Network).

News reports said the positions were those which President Tassos Papadopoulos had given to Sir Kieran Prendergast - UN Undersecretary for Political Affairs - during his visit to the island who then conveyed them to the Turkish Cypriot side.

Government sources attributed the ‘leak’ to usual Turkish diplomatic manoeuvring.
NTV said the Turkish side did not agree with the conditions, which include the withdrawal of all Turkish and Greek troops and the complete demilitarisation of the island, and that Papadopoulos was trying to side-step the Annan plan and introduce a new formula for a solution on his own terms.

Among the conditions cited by NTV was the termination of the guarantor treaty – removal of intervention rights from all three guarantor powers: Turkey, the UK, and Greece.

The network further reported that in case of an agreement the UN Security Council should guarantee the implementation of the solution and all Greek Cypriot properties should be returned to their owners.

Turkish settlers remaining after a solution, including those married to Turkish Cypriots, should be limited to 30,000 and the authority of the central government should be reinforced, the report said.

According to NTV, Papadopoulos also asked that the UN Secretary-general not have the role of a referee and that there should not be any tight timeframes for negotiations.

Finally, as a last condition, the Greek Cypriot side asked for Turkey’s EU accession course should be separate from the Cyprus problem.

Prendergast last night left the island with a better understanding of the positions and concerns of Cypriots.

“I am satisfied that I have a better understanding of the positions of both sides than I had when I arrived and I thank you for that,” Prendergast said after a meeting with Papadopoulos.

The UN official said it was up to the two sides to reach an agreement, which should be mutually acceptable.

“One point I would like to emphasise is that essentially it is the two sides who have to make a peace agreement; the UN can help, can facilitate, can encourage, but in the end we have to have a settlement that is acceptable to both sides,” he said.

Prendergast, who was on a three-day visit avoided saying whether the resumption of talks was any closer.

He said that he had thus far concluded half of his visit to the region, adding that he tried to be realistic rather than optimistic or pessimistic.

Prendergast said he would not make any pontifical statement, certainly not before the end of his visit in the region.

“The objective in coming was to do that and to listen to as broad a range of opinion as possible with the aim of achieving a better understanding of the views and needs of the parties,” Prendergast said.

The UN official departed for Athens last night where he was going to hold talks with the Greek leadership before flying to Ankara.

Turkish Cypriot leader Mehmet Ali Talat said he would comment after completing his contacts with the Turkish leadership





Sounds o.k on most points to me
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Postby Main_Source » Fri Jun 03, 2005 1:51 pm

There u go...

You were wondering what was taking Papdopolous so long to give his objections to the Annan plan and wondering why he wanted to wait for a formal thrashing out of a new plan.

So he gives his points of view and because the Turks dont like them, they get leaked to the Turkish press.
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Postby Murtaza » Fri Jun 03, 2005 1:56 pm

Main_Source wrote:There u go...

You were wondering what was taking Papdopolous so long to give his objections to the Annan plan and wondering why he wanted to wait for a formal thrashing out of a new plan.

So he gives his points of view and because the Turks dont like them, they get leaked to the Turkish press.


Not much different than Gul Proposal, Just comic. What I think of course.
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Postby detailer » Fri Jun 03, 2005 2:18 pm

His points are true nightmare for us. :(

These points can got get a yes from TC.

Maybe from Alpay Durduran though :lol:
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Postby garbitsch » Fri Jun 03, 2005 4:35 pm

Among the conditions cited by NTV was the termination of the guarantor treaty – removal of intervention rights from all three guarantor powers: Turkey, the UK, and Greece.


This should be discussed. It shouldn't be a "must" to start negotiations.

The network further reported that in case of an agreement the UN Security Council should guarantee the implementation of the solution and all Greek Cypriot properties should be returned to their owners.


This should be negotiated as well!

Turkish settlers remaining after a solution, including those married to Turkish Cypriots, should be limited to 30,000 and the authority of the central government should be reinforced, the report said.

OK

Finally, as a last condition, the Greek Cypriot side asked for Turkey’s EU accession course should be separate from the Cyprus problem.


What do yankees say: Are you kidding? (I mean, it's ok but can't believe it was suggested)

What I have read from other resources that there were one more point, which required the increase in the sphere of the central government. I couldn't find it in this text though...
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Re: Turkish side ‘leaks’ Greek Cypriot positions

Postby magikthrill » Fri Jun 03, 2005 6:10 pm

brother wrote:Turkish Cypriot leader Mehmet Ali Talat said he would comment after completing his contacts with the Turkish leadership



Talat to Ankara:

"Woof woof"
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Postby detailer » Fri Jun 03, 2005 6:14 pm

the authority of the central government should be reinforced


Garbitsch,

from your post.
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Postby Viewpoint » Fri Jun 03, 2005 7:51 pm

When Papadop consults and goes to Athens, does it mean hes an oink oink :lol: Grow up, we all know both communities have close ties with their respective guarantor countries. We have to work closely with Turkey as they are the only country that recognise and support us in many ways. If the day comes when the GC administration can win the trust of TCs and visa versa and they work together rather than against one another is the day when there will be no consultations with Ankara or Athens.
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Postby magikthrill » Fri Jun 03, 2005 8:01 pm

Viewpoint wrote:When Papadop consults and goes to Athens, does it mean hes an oink oink :lol: Grow up, we all know both communities have close ties with their respective guarantor countries. We have to work closely with Turkey as they are the only country that recognise and support us in many ways. If the day comes when the GC administration can win the trust of TCs and visa versa and they work together rather than against one another is the day when there will be no consultations with Ankara or Athens.


Athens-Nicosia relations are the exact same to those of TCs with Turkey the same way Turkeys occupation of Cyprus is granted by the Treaty of Guarantorship. What do I mean by this? That both of these notions some TCs have are nothing but BS given down to them making them even more disillusioned and isolated.

Before Karamanli said his stance to Annan 5 was that of the GCs he showed his acceptance of the proposal something Papadopoulos never did.
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Postby Kifeas » Fri Jun 03, 2005 9:20 pm

detailer wrote:His points are true nightmare for us. :(

These points can got get a yes from TC.

Maybe from Alpay Durduran though :lol:

Which points constitute a nightmare for you and why?
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